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Updated Genesis & Genesis 2 Products List & Thing To Be Aware Of
Posted: 23 August 2012 10:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 91 ]
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I’m not a programmer any longer, heck I only wrote games for the now VERY OLD C-Base BBS (Bulletin Board System) when I was coding. (Can we say before the WWW?) It was a very Database driven program, we had to add our own code to modify the system from the basic look and function. I understand the Trouble it takes to add NEW features to a Database. DAZ3D would need to add Flags to every item, then those flags would need to be set every time an item was updated. Then a NEW routine would need to be added to check the flags at Server Maintenance time every day. That routine would need to check every users IOH (Itemized Order History) database for each Item that had the flag set and send a Mass E-bot mail to all the users that had the item/items in their IOH.

I’m sure that is something they are working on. Keep this in mind. You have to test all this new code. We could take down the BBS to test it. DAZ3D is a 24/7 site. They must do all the coding and testing in the background, probably on a dummy system, to test it. If something breaks they sure do not want it to be the store that is up and running at this time.

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Posted: 24 August 2012 12:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 92 ]
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vwrangler - 23 August 2012 09:05 PM

Something I found when I tried to reopen a saved file using these items only to discover that Studio 4.0.3.47 threw off errors, so I reset them, just for the hell of it:

Breezy, for Summer Dress for Genesis (1.2 - in list at 1.1, updated to fix material settings tool tip error)
Summer Dress for Genesis (1.1 - in list at 1.0, no reason given for update)

Quoting myself to note—as the product page and the online Readme FAIL TO STATE—that Breezy 1.1 is for Studio 4.0.3, while Breezy 1.2 is, at the moment, for Studio 4.5 and above only. I discovered this when, after reinstalling the product, I tried to apply the textures and saw only an empty folder inside Studio’s content directory. When I used the “Browse to folder” feature, hey, DUF files a-go-go! Not a DSF in sight!

I’m guessing this was probably a mistake—the tool tip for the materials is kind of a mess—but still. Why don’t they check that sort of thing?

Jaderail - 23 August 2012 10:25 PM

I’m sure that is something they are working on. Keep this in mind. You have to test all this new code. We could take down the BBS to test it. DAZ3D is a 24/7 site. They must do all the coding and testing in the background, probably on a dummy system, to test it. If something breaks they sure do not want it to be the store that is up and running at this time.

You know what? I think they’re well beyond that at this stage.

One thing I never understood—especially after they made it clear that the heavy lifting on programming was being done during overnight hours in Utah—is why they don’t simply schedule a 2-4 hour maintenance window where the site goes completely offline while they move fixes into production and test them on the live system. Would they lose sales from overseas locations? Well, yes, probably, but you can limit that by keeping your offline window to only 2-4 hours (unless something is really badly broken and accidentally keeps them offline longer, but that happens anyway). As it stands, frustrations with the site (among other things) are causing them to lose customers completely, rather than a few hours of sales.

And, if they actually told people, “Hey, we’re going to be completely offline, both store and forums, from 3AM-6AM Utah time, each and every day, to get everything to where you and we need it to be, and maybe get it there a little faster,” people would understand and accept that, I think.

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Posted: 24 August 2012 09:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 93 ]
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wickedBeachwear_1.2
2012-08-21 - 1.2, Removed Duplicate IDs.


Genesis Basic Clothing Rig Kit 1.1
2012-08-22 - 1.1, Removed duplicate IDs, corrected B25DevRight bones.
( correct it almost one month after I send report,,)

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Posted: 24 August 2012 12:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 94 ]
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So… wait, let me get this straight:  In order to upgrade to DS4.5 I am going to need to re-download and re-install all the content I own that appears in post #1?  And if I don’t do it, all future content released will not work in my current DS4.3 because it will be in .DUF format?

Seriously??!?  This will be WEEKS worth of my limited free time spent wrestling with DLs, uninstallers, installers, and reboots….and the list keeps growing!  When will we ever get to just create art?!?

Someone please tell me I’m wrong.  This is insanity.

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Posted: 24 August 2012 01:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 95 ]
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quickxotica - 24 August 2012 12:06 PM

So… wait, let me get this straight:  In order to upgrade to DS4.5 I am going to need to re-download and re-install all the content I own that appears in post #1?  And if I don’t do it, all future content released will not work in my current DS4.3 because it will be in .DUF format?

Seriously??!?  This will be WEEKS worth of my limited free time spent wrestling with DLs, uninstallers, installers, and reboots….and the list keeps growing!  When will we ever get to just create art?!?

Someone please tell me I’m wrong.  This is insanity.


The only things you definitely NEED to update for 4.5 are the Genesis Evolution packages. The content upgrade accidentally removed some morphs from the Shaping tab, and you need the revised Evolution packages to put them back in the right place. Beyond that, it depends on whether/if you get the “Duplicate ID” error when you use an item and whether you want to try the “Fix Duplicate IDs” script, or reset and redownload. In some cases, the script doesn’t work, and all you can try to get rid of the error is to redownload. Almost everything in the list (prior to August 17, anyway) at version 1.0 probably was issued before Studio 4.5, and has not been updated.

Anything in .DUF format is incompatible with Studio 4.0.3.47. Resetting will not address that issue—and, as noted, may create an issue where it didn’t exist before.

As DAZ moves forward, they will almost certainly start releasing products exclusively in DUF. You will need 4.5 to work with those files. It is to be hoped that those products will also be labeled, or have complete file lists so we can judge.

Some of the items in the list were updated for various reasons—adding or correcting metadata, correcting errors, etc.—before Studio 4.5 came out. Both because the old site was kind of limping along on the backend and because the new site doesn’t yet have that function, no update notifications were produced for a very long time. This list has become something of an attempt to catch up and see what’s where.

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Posted: 24 August 2012 04:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 96 ]
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Thanks kitakoredaz and vwrangler for the latest updates.


Updated 8-24-2012.


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Wicked Beachwear (1.2)


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Breezy (1.2)
Genesis Basic Clothing Rig Kit (1.1 Genesis Clothing Rig Kit / 1.0 Genesis Clothing Developers Kit PDF)
Jade Assassin (1.2)
Kiyoko (1.1)
Monster Details for Genesis (1.4)
Summer Dress for Genesis (1.1)

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Posted: 24 August 2012 09:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 97 ]
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Hi. Thanks for making the list. it has been really helpful. Here are a couple more that I don’t think are on there:
BraxtonM5 1.1
Drakon 1.1

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Posted: 25 August 2012 04:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 98 ]
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Thanks for the list. Just trying to work my way through it, jumping between this list, my orders to just work through what Genesis things I have, my itemized order history to find the SKU where it’s not in the order (often it isn ‘t), and then the folder where all my downloads are ,,, but there ordered by SKU, not alphabetically, as those are what the downloaded filenames start with, to check what version I have, then back to this list to check latest version, and if updated, then back to the itemized order list to reset.

This is just mad. How any sane company can expect their customers to put up with this and stay customers I really don’t know.

Anyway, something not on your list is the ‘Genesis Alive’ product. I just reset mine to check, and it’s still at 1.0.

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Posted: 25 August 2012 04:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 99 ]
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Another not on the list:

Genesis Expressions and Face aniBlocks 1.1

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Posted: 25 August 2012 05:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 100 ]
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Interjection Booster Shot One 1.2

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Posted: 25 August 2012 05:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 101 ]
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Be nice if the merchants would update their own product threads with an update message so folks know…. New message and an update notice in the first post is helpful.  I know it’s DAZ’s responsiblity but until they get this all going better I guess we have to ask the merchants for the help to stay on top of all this.  I agree with your statements David…. crazy mess all these updates are making things!  I just gave up and IF I need one and it’s something that Richard’s “Fix Duplicate ID’s” script can’t fix I’ll download it then.

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Posted: 25 August 2012 05:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 102 ]
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Thanks guys I just added all of those to main list.

Also, Jade Assassin (1.2) only fix the duplicate problem.  The wrong name bug hasn’t been fixed.  So another version will come out most likely.

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Posted: 26 August 2012 06:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 103 ]
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I’m going through this list and resetting things and noticed a problem: in the Victoria 5 Pro Bundle there are two different files for SexySilky, both with the same version number but different files nevertheless.

-rw-r--r-- 1 thoromyr thoromyr  23110354 2012-08-26 07:12 12959_SexySilkyforGenesis_1.1_trx.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 thoromyr thoromyr  23103177 2012-08-26 07:13 12959_SexySilkyForGenesis_1.1_trx.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 thoromyr thoromyr   5920727 2012-08-26 07:11 12959_SexySilkyforGenesisMetaData_1.1_ds.exe
-rw-r--r-- 1 thoromyr thoromyr   5923967 2012-08-26 07:14 12959_SexySilkyForGenesisMetaData_1.1_ds.exe 

Yeah, my main system is linux so that is why the file listing looks like this. Note the distinction in file names is only the capitalization of ‘for’, but the file sizes *also* differ and by more than a few bytes. About 7kb in the case of the actual content installer. Any pointers as to which is the one to install? For what its worth, here are the MD5 sums.

cf1728f2045355729a2d6eaf135d40b4  Victoria 5 Pro Bundle 20120826/12959_SexySilkyforGenesis_1.1_trx.exe
524e41f464a63b1c9b8d23e65f3acbcc  Victoria 5 Pro Bundle 
20120826/12959_SexySilkyForGenesis_1.1_trx.exe
300d75e8b414c6ba81e0eac39878c868  Victoria 5 Pro Bundle 
20120826/12959_SexySilkyforGenesisMetaData_1.1_ds.exe
3dc3270afcac1e6d3be4e0730e8cdf9d  Victoria 5 Pro Bundle 
20120826/12959_SexySilkyForGenesisMetaData_1.1_ds.exe 
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Posted: 26 August 2012 06:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 104 ]
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Daz is creative with the product names. The product ‘Baby for Genesis’ appears to use that only for display on the product page—in the itemized order history page it is listed as ‘Genesis Baby’.

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Posted: 26 August 2012 07:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 105 ]
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Beasts and Brutes (1.0)  (The old version was 1.01 for some odd reason)

This one appears to have an odd history. The *current* version as of this posting is 1.01 which is identical to the file having the same version that I downloaded March 6th. I show a v1.0 downloaded March 7th that is a bit smaller.

It looks like the product was “updated” in error to v1.0 and then reverted back to the proper v1.01.

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