Digital Art Zone

banditcameraman - 30 November 2012 06:33 PM

Hi Alessandro

You mention RenderMan a few times; is that RenderMan Studio or the Maya RenderMan plug-in, both from Pixar?  Great products from the looks of things but very pricey

I hope it’s ok to ask

bandit,
AA is talking about the standard not applications. Renderman in this context is referring to the fact that 3Delight, DAZ Studio’s render engine, is capable of initiating the features of the standard, Renderman. I know it can be confusing. PIXAR and Maya use the word loosly but for our purposes AA is calling functions that 3Delight knows how to computate and create the appropriate result in a render. If you go to the 3Delight website, http://www.3delight.com/en/index.php you can read all about how it is compliant to the Renderman spec..

banditcameraman - 30 November 2012 06:33 PM

Hi Alessandro

You mention RenderMan a few times; is that RenderMan Studio or the Maya RenderMan plug-in, both from Pixar?  Great products from the looks of things but very pricey

I hope it’s ok to ask

Hey of course you can ask whatever you like. I’ll be glad to answer anything I can.
DAZ Studio supports RenderMan primitives (and the whole RenderMan API’s) and uses the 3Delight render engine, which is a RenderMan compliant renderer. So, you do not need to buy any additional plugin or software: you just create the hair in LAMH, export those to Studio as RenderMan objects and render. Done.

Tell me if I could explain myself properly on this.

Here it comes the black, rampant fury, with a lion-like mane…

that looks cool

Horse 2?  This is the way the mane, forelock and tail SHOULD look.  What came with such a nice new model is horrid!

RAMWolff - 01 December 2012 01:09 PM

Horse 2?  This is the way the mane, forelock and tail SHOULD look.  What came with such a nice new model is horrid!

Considering how the new horse doesn’t have perma-mane and tail, I think people can make their own manes more easily. I mean, there are no braided manes or bound manes or bobbed tails around yet… but soon.

Skiriki - 01 December 2012 01:14 PM

RAMWolff - 01 December 2012 01:09 PM

Horse 2?  This is the way the mane, forelock and tail SHOULD look.  What came with such a nice new model is horrid!

Considering how the new horse doesn’t have perma-mane and tail, I think people can make their own manes more easily. I mean, there are no braided manes or bound manes or bobbed tails around yet… but soon.

The only redemption for the new horse’s stone age tech mane and tail is that they’re not permanently attached so that PA’s will hopefully bring us better alternatives soon…

I’m preparing some presets for the Mil Big Cats, and I’d like if somebody could help me out to understand what’s latest revision of this product.
I bought this years ago, when the galaxy was young, with an account I don’t have data anymore.
I have the Big Mil Cats SR1, and before proceeding I’d like to know if that’s the latest version, because from the initial one to the SR1 geometry has changed.
Just for reference, the SR1 blMilBigCat.obj file has 44890 faces and 45866 vertices. Thanks

Alessandro_AM - 02 December 2012 04:15 PM

I have the Big Mil Cats SR1, and before proceeding I’d like to know if that’s the latest version,

Yes, that’s the latest.

Definitely looking forward to seeing how LaMH deals with the big kitties, I’ve never been able to get them to look quite right without proper D|S presets.

Presets for the MilBigCats sounds splendid.

To be sold separately as addons to the plug-in? I suspect that people will happily pay for furred versions of the animals they’ve got.

JOdel - 02 December 2012 06:31 PM

Presets for the MilBigCats sounds splendid.

To be sold separately as addons to the plug-in? I suspect that people will happily pay for furred versions of the animals they’ve got.

Hey!! Quit giving him ideas. Were not all rich like you. (Just kidding)

Jade reads, Jade grins, Jade goes dancing in the streets. I’m one happy Drow.

Now if only this Mayan thing was as easy to read between the lines as those last few posts…. 12/21/12.

Naw, I like LAMH and happy happy joy joy better. If they were so darn good they would have SEEN their own end, not ours.

Guessing people would like a Ferret coat for the Meerkat in the shop, re: the Thread here. They are pretty cute, and I’m guessing could be good draw if it came out well

I’d like to provide some initial presets for free, especially for Genesis. I yet have to decide but I’m tending to make available for free also the Mil Big Cat/Dog/Horse2 presets, so that anybody can already be immediately at a play.

Example of hair exported and rendered as .obj geometry in Studio.

I’ve never had much time to spend with Lux/Reality, but as you all know LAMH can export hair also to .obj and, very important, produce also the needed textures for those.
Here attached is a very simple hair model (as you can see I didn’t bother using density maps, and so the hair contour line at the roots is way too neat, the shape is quite basic), but it’s just to show that exporting to obj’s works well.
In this example, 120000 hair (each of 16 polygons, you do the math). The two obj’s total a size of 220MB: I assume a 64bit system is necessary to deal with such large geometry (even if LAMH offers the possibility to squeeze and reduce geometry complexity upon exporting).

This is rendered in Studio, plain plastic shader, mid settings, Lantios Lights, 4:34 seconds.

I asked a friend to try and render this in Lux, to see how different should get. I guess the result will be even better…