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Manga Style Shaders: In Progress [COMMERCIAL]
Posted: 26 May 2012 03:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Add me to the “very interested in this” list smile

The visual style shaders are already a great product and from the looks of it this product won’t stay behind. Thank you for making this.

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Posted: 26 May 2012 06:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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JOdel - 25 May 2012 04:03 PM

What you’re describing is a very traditional 2D process. I’m not sure that it would translate to 3D.

Well, that was the point. One of the most obvious uses for these shaders would be to create actual comics and manga, right?  So, by default, a good bit of the work being done with them is probably going to end up being put together in a 2D program.  That’s not to say that they wouldn’t still be fun to play with anyway, but because of the moire problems you run into when using halftones of different dot-pitch, it would be really useful to be able to print out a “sheet” of virtual zip tone that matches what’s being used on the figure. 

And, of course, like I noted before, that halftone could certainly be created just by applying the shaders to planars or billboards, but most comic and manga artist I know would rather do some final tweaking after the characters have been placed in the panels and the word balloons dropped in.  .


I think you’re overcomplicating the issue. Why not just render the background patterns separately and then use them when needed? As long as you do your character renders as .png files, you could use whatever background you want with them in photoshop.


BTW, i’ve managed to get opacity to work. There are two styles of opacity; outlined, and screentoned. More info here: http://bishyt.tumblr.com/post/23829044708/ok-ive-gotten-opacity-to-work-there-are-two


I’ve decided to continue posting my updates on my Tumblr blog, seeing as the forums are less than satisfactory right now.

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Posted: 27 May 2012 02:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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This looks amazing!  I already bought your DS anime shaders today after all your help with anime mats in Poser via notes on the old forums smile I’ll probably have more questions wink

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Posted: 28 May 2012 01:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Just so you guys know, the shader now supports tri-tone. Basically you can now have three shading colours; base, shade 1, and shade 2. Specular is of course included on top of that. Just like before, the new third shading colour can have it’s own screentone pattern applied to it if need be.

Last thing to do is apply the bump/displacement mapping (easy), and the shader itself will be finished. All there would be left to do is make it presentable and add some additional presets.

Speaking of which, does anyone know how to sort the various parameters in Shader Mixer? It seems as though they’re sorted by alphabet, which causes “Diffuse - Dark” to appear over “Diffuse - Light”. Is there any way to change the sorting so that I can place them in whichever order I want?

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Posted: 31 May 2012 05:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Hey, does anyone know if they’ve fixed the forums yet?

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Posted: 31 May 2012 12:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Well, they’ve reversed the posing order so the newest posts show up first. But they still don’t seem to bring the ones with recent posts forward. I think the 800pxl limit is still in effect, too.

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Posted: 31 May 2012 01:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Great, so instead of being on the fourth page, it’s now on the sixteenth, thus decreasing it’s chances of ever being noticed.

UGH.

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Posted: 31 May 2012 01:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Well, at least the e-mail notification of posts in a thread is back. That helps.

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Posted: 31 May 2012 01:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Yeah, but every notification e-mail still has the same subject line, so multiple notifications for separate topics get grouped into one unwieldy convo in gmail. -_-

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Posted: 01 June 2012 05:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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BishounenTaurus - 31 May 2012 01:08 PM

Great, so instead of being on the fourth page, it’s now on the sixteenth, thus decreasing it’s chances of ever being noticed.

UGH.

Trust me, it’s being noticed. smile Same as so many of us have gotten ‘used to’ scrolling the forum pages.
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Posted: 01 June 2012 07:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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I have a couple of questions…

I see you have zip-a-tone-like patterns for the manga images. Might there be a way to get a cross-hatch-like pattern much like in Western comics?

Also, might it be possible to combine the patterned shading with color for a different kind of look?

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Posted: 02 June 2012 04:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Colour isn’t supported, but cross hatching is. If you look at my tumblr, specifically the below post, you can see the custom screentone textures in use.

http://bishyt.tumblr.com/post/23689078828/at-the-request-of-one-of-my-tutors-ruth-here-are

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Posted: 02 June 2012 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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This is a hopelessly lame button, I just added some text to the usual Daz one.  But if you don’t mind, I thought I’d post it here.  Eventually I hope you or someone else comes up with one a little bit more slick.

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Posted: 05 June 2012 01:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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Joequick - 02 June 2012 07:02 PM

This is a hopelessly lame button, I just added some text to the usual Daz one.  But if you don’t mind, I thought I’d post it here.  Eventually I hope you or someone else comes up with one a little bit more slick.

That’s not lame! I think it’s actually pretty good. Now I know what icon to use for my renders!

Thanks, Joequick!

 

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Posted: 05 June 2012 01:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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BishounenTaurus - 02 June 2012 04:20 AM

Colour isn’t supported, but cross hatching is. If you look at my tumblr, specifically the below post, you can see the custom screentone textures in use.

http://bishyt.tumblr.com/post/23689078828/at-the-request-of-one-of-my-tutors-ruth-here-are

Thanks, BT. I didn’t see that one. It looks good.

If this Shader set doesn’t support color, might a future set do so? Like I said, it’d be mostly to get a Western-style comic look to renders.

 

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