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Posted: 05 July 2012 07:24 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I am trying to make a long skirt for Genesis, BUT once I have used the transfer utility the mesh is all messed up. (See 1st Pic.)

If I try to change the shape or the pose of Genesis the mesh explodes! (see 2nd Pic)

Please, please, please, can someone save my sanity by explaining in simple terms what I am doing wrong and how do I fix it.

I found that making clothes fit Genesis was relatively easy, UNTIL I decided to make some long skirts and dresses.

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Posted: 05 July 2012 07:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Well, first you probably want to remove the foot bones or at least give them zero weight for all their transforms. Did you model the skirt to fit the base Genesis shape, or did you model to the female shape and then use Reverse source shape in the Transfer utility?

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Posted: 05 July 2012 07:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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This skirt was modelled on the Genesis V4 shape, but the same thing happens when I model on the Genesis base shape.

I did use the reverse option as well.

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Posted: 05 July 2012 11:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Can’t anyone help?

I’m so frustrated with this that I shall give up if I don’t get any help.

I’ll go back to plain old shirts and skirts.hmmm

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Posted: 05 July 2012 12:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I don’t know what’s happening, but perhaps if you post a screenshot showing the weightmaps for the rotations that cause the issue (assuming you can pin it down that precisely) it may suggest something.

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Posted: 05 July 2012 03:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

By SickleYield:
“Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385

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Posted: 05 July 2012 03:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Patience55 - 05 July 2012 03:41 PM

Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

By SickleYield:
“Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385

All good tutorials.

Wendy, could you provide the process you are currently using and some images as you work through it? That may help us to see what is happening. I know you have done short skirts before long skirts are a similar process so should work. At least my attempts have done so using Jan’s starter dress.

Just wanted to add what’s happened looks similar to what you get in hexagon sometimes when you add thickness…vertices exploding all over the place.

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Posted: 06 July 2012 08:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Patience55 - 05 July 2012 03:41 PM

Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

By SickleYield:
“Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385


Yes I’ve seen both of those tutorials and tried to follow them.

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Posted: 06 July 2012 08:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Pendraia - 05 July 2012 03:46 PM
Patience55 - 05 July 2012 03:41 PM

Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

By SickleYield:
“Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385

All good tutorials.

Wendy, could you provide the process you are currently using and some images as you work through it? That may help us to see what is happening. I know you have done short skirts before long skirts are a similar process so should work. At least my attempts have done so using Jan’s starter dress.

Just wanted to add what’s happened looks similar to what you get in hexagon sometimes when you add thickness…vertices exploding all over the place.


Thansk Pendria, I will look into the thickness problem, although I don’t think I added it to the skirt.

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Posted: 06 July 2012 08:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie’s Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

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Posted: 06 July 2012 09:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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wilmap - 06 July 2012 08:32 AM

I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie’s Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

I love that set too. And her tutorial is also very helpful.

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Posted: 06 July 2012 03:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Patience55 - 06 July 2012 09:18 AM
wilmap - 06 July 2012 08:32 AM

I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie’s Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

I love that set too. And her tutorial is also very helpful.

I’ve got Bobbies Rigging for skirts but not Blondies. I have Blondies rigging for base figures with the gingerbread man. Could you please provide a link? I tend to grab everything I can on rigging.

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Posted: 06 July 2012 08:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Pendraia - 06 July 2012 03:22 PM
Patience55 - 06 July 2012 09:18 AM
wilmap - 06 July 2012 08:32 AM

I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie’s Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

I love that set too. And her tutorial is also very helpful.

I’ve got Bobbies Rigging for skirts but not Blondies. I have Blondies rigging for base figures with the gingerbread man. Could you please provide a link? I tend to grab everything I can on rigging.

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Oh the heat wave is getting to our brains ... I think I’ve confused a few names here. Sorry.
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Yes it’s Bobbie25’s item that I was thinking of. Is this the one you also meant wilmap?
Edit: yes I think so; .... nice share, thank you:  http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/3583/
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http://www.daz3d.com/shop/genesis-basic-clothing-rig-kit/
Has a tutorial included for how to use it.
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She also has: http://www.daz3d.com/shop/hairtexturingkit/ for those that might be interested.
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For those interested here’s Blondie9999’s tut:
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/rigging-original-figures-in-ds4-pro/

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Posted: 06 July 2012 08:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Patience55 - 06 July 2012 08:07 PM
Pendraia - 06 July 2012 03:22 PM

I’ve got Bobbies Rigging for skirts but not Blondies. I have Blondies rigging for base figures with the gingerbread man. Could you please provide a link? I tend to grab everything I can on rigging.

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Oh the heat wave is getting to our brains ... I think I’ve confused a few names here. Sorry.

No problem, I would just hate to have missed getting anything on rigging or modelling. I wish it was hot here, we have temperatures of 5 degrees c recently which for Melbourne is quite cold.
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Patience55 - 06 July 2012 08:07 PM

; .... nice share, thank you:  http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/3583/

Thanks…nice work Wendy…I don’t know how you produce them so quickly…it takes me forever.

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She also has: http://www.daz3d.com/shop/hairtexturingkit/ for those that might be interested.

Thanks I hadn’t seen that previously.
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Posted: 07 July 2012 01:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Sorry it was my mistake to put Blondies. It should of course have been Bobbie 25.

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