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Higgs-boson found, according to CERN
Posted: 04 July 2012 04:34 PM   [ Ignore ]
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/07/120704-god-particle-higgs-boson-new-cern-science/

“We have a discovery,” Heuer said at the seminar. “We have observed a new particle consistent with a Higgs boson.”

At the meeting were four theorists who helped develop the Higgs theory in the 1960s, including Peter Higgs himself, who could be seen wiping away tears as the announcement was made.


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Posted: 04 July 2012 05:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I saw an article about it earlier today. Interesting stuff.

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Posted: 04 July 2012 06:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Norse: love the picture grin

Just to be pedantic though - the Higgs boson has not been “found”. A new particle has been found which is very possibly the Higgs boson, but the particle could yet turn out to be something very different.

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Posted: 04 July 2012 06:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Good news. I’ve been following it closely. Love the image. Very apt; the LHC is as elegant as a caveman smashing two rocks together. smile

For those who want to catchup on science history I highly recommend “A short history of nearly every thing” by Bill Bryson. It’s a very accessible layman’s book.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Short_History_of_Nearly_Everything

Currently I’m reading “The fabric of the cosmos” by Brian Greene. A bit more physics involved and he tries hard to make it accessible to the layman. I may buy another of his book, though maybe I should wait to see what he makes of the current Higgs Boson discovery.

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Posted: 04 July 2012 06:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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cridgit - 04 July 2012 06:05 PM

Norse: love the picture grin

Just to be pedantic though - the Higgs boson has not been “found”. A new particle has been found which is very possibly the Higgs boson, but the particle could yet turn out to be something very different.


Even more pedantic:  Something at around the energy level the Higg’s Boson is theorized to exist at has been observed.


The boson itself is unlikely to ever be found, however the interaction between the boson and the Higgs Field (the field is the important part) is what scientists are looking to find.  It is the Field that (theoretically) provides the impetus (or more correctly the hindrance) that subatomic energy needs to be able congeal into a mass.


It is still quite early in the search.


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Posted: 04 July 2012 07:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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cridgit - 04 July 2012 06:05 PM

Norse: love the picture grin

Just to be pedantic though - the Higgs boson has not been “found”. A new particle has been found which is very possibly the Higgs boson, but the particle could yet turn out to be something very different.


Even more pedantic:  Something at around the energy level the Higg’s Boson is theorized to exist at has been observed.


The boson itself is unlikely to ever be found, however the interaction between the boson and the Higgs Field (the field is the important part) is what scientists are looking to find.  It is the Field that (theoretically) provides the impetus (or more correctly the hindrance) that subatomic energy needs to be able congeal into a mass.


It is still quite early in the search.


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Being further pedantic: There may even be 5 versions of the Higgs particle. So which one was discovered? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10313875


One possible use of finding the Higgs particle could be science developing away to turn off the Higgs field and therefore making rocket payloads very light so less fuel is required to launch them into space. A holiday on Mars could be on the next agenda.grin

 

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Posted: 04 July 2012 07:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Posted: 04 July 2012 09:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I don’t think you can turn off the Higgs field. But I wonder if by increasing the density, you could create an impermeable field that doesn’t allow energy to pass through (read: shield against asteroids etc.). That’s the biggest problem with space-travel. Not delta-V.

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Posted: 04 July 2012 09:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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wendy♥catz - 04 July 2012 07:58 PM

Hoggs Bison? tongue wink tongue rolleye


Higgs bosom… LOL

(very old joke)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/02/higgs-boson-higgs-bosom_n_1644618.html

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Posted: 04 July 2012 09:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Norse Graphics - 04 July 2012 09:19 PM

I don’t think you can turn off the Higgs field. But I wonder if by increasing the density, you could create an impermeable field that doesn’t allow energy to pass through (read: shield against asteroids etc.). That’s the biggest problem with space-travel. Not delta-V.


Not quite.  E=mc^2.  This equation states that as one approaches the speed of light (c) the energy needed to accelerate (e) approaches infinity.  In other words, as long as mass (m) exists one cannot reach, much less exceed “c”.  If we can harness the application of the Higgs Field then it is theoretically possible to convert matter to and from energy.  Currently we can only convert destructively from matter to energy.  If we can convert an object to energy and reduce its mass to 0 then it is theoretically possible to exceed “c”.


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Posted: 04 July 2012 10:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Norse Graphics - 04 July 2012 09:19 PM

I don’t think you can turn off the Higgs field. But I wonder if by increasing the density, you could create an impermeable field that doesn’t allow energy to pass through (read: shield against asteroids etc.). That’s the biggest problem with space-travel. Not delta-V.


Not quite.  E=mc^2.  This equation states that as one approaches the speed of light (c) the energy needed to accelerate (e) approaches infinity.  In other words, as long as mass (m) exists one cannot reach, much less exceed “c”.  If we can harness the application of the Higgs Field then it is theoretically possible to convert matter to and from energy.  Currently we can only convert destructively from matter to energy.  If we can convert an object to energy and reduce its mass to 0 then it is theoretically possible to exceed “c”.


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Interesting times! If that theory eventually turns out to be a actually possible the implications would be amazing!

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Posted: 05 July 2012 01:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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We have the Higgs boson for mass (so glad Higgs himself is still around to enjoy this discovery) and we have the photon (also a boson) for light, well all forms of electro-magnetic energy of which light is a subset. So next up is what? Gravity I presume. It also consists of a field mediated by a particle. No?

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Posted: 05 July 2012 03:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Maybe gravitational waves fluctuates through the Higgs’ fields… (just a dumb comment from me).

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Posted: 05 July 2012 04:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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These dam scientist Fkers are gonna kill us all. Havent they played half life? Jeez.

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Posted: 05 July 2012 04:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Zev0 - 05 July 2012 04:21 AM

These dam scientist Fkers are gonna kill us all. Havent they played half life? Jeez.

At least they have not dropped a micro Black hole into the center of the earth yet. That we know of….

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Posted: 05 July 2012 06:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Wonder what Sheldon thinks of this, or how it will effect “the big bang theory”.

Other then that I don’t see how this will effect me in any way.

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