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Posted: 23 December 2013 10:47 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I was just curious. Just beginning to play around with M6/Genesis 2. Has anyone else noticed that M6 chest area looks a little…well…different? I mean when you first load M6 or M6 HD? Unfortunately, I’ve found no way of “fixing” this issue as of yet as it’s in it’s frame work. I’ve discussed this with a handful of prominent artists on Deviant Art including one which is a vendor for DS or Renderosity. I’ve not had anything real positive about M6 other than, it bends more naturally. Other issues of negative matters ranged from M4 texts won’t work, set on M4 or combo of m4 and Gen1/M5 and that’s just for starters.

MY personal issue is the aesthetics and look of the chest area. Just isn’t as natural looking like M4. I realize the artist/developer attempted to put some “pecs” on it but, just doesn’t look right.

Any suggestions on how to remedy the looks of the pec area?

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Posted: 23 December 2013 10:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I was just curious. Just beginning to play around with M6/Genesis 2. Has anyone else noticed that M6 chest area looks a little…well…different? I mean when you first load M6 or M6 HD? Unfortunately, I’ve found no way of “fixing” this issue as of yet as it’s in it’s frame work. I’ve discussed this with a handful of prominent artists on Deviant Art including one which is a vendor for DS or Renderosity. I’ve not had anything real positive about M6 other than, it bends more naturally. Other issues of negative matters ranged from M4 texts won’t work, set on M4 or combo of m4 and Gen1/M5 and that’s just for starters.

MY personal issue is the aesthetics and look of the chest area. Just isn’t as natural looking like M4. I realize the artist/developer attempted to put some “pecs” on it but, just doesn’t look right.

Any suggestions on how to remedy the looks of the pec area?

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Posted: 23 December 2013 10:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Posted: 23 December 2013 11:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Posted: 24 December 2013 05:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Can you post a screenshot of what you mean?

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Posted: 24 December 2013 08:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I agree with Celtic_Knight, I find the chest area just a little weird myself, to the extent I still use M5 for any barechested pictures and only use M6 clothed. I did find that applying characters seemed to improved the pecs a little.

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Posted: 24 December 2013 11:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I think what the OP is seeing is that the Gen 5 males are a bit more flat chested and less saggy in the breast area.  I know it’s not what the modeller was after but it is what it tend to look like.

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Posted: 24 December 2013 11:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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To Estroyer:
I can ref to tjohn post: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=108969_l1nEtwd829BngsTz6RvM&board_id=1

Simon Jm: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=108977_gMNY23HGNkt9WOkYGrVb&board_id=1

Cagnazzo82: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=109050_XptlOaJQZaKMUuz0TiIC&board_id=1

Jimzombie: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=109066_K4dleTxCnL4U6SKOtVFO&board_id=1

scorpion64dragon: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=109278_wNuxIYWSk9KHiBRBMKnA&board_id=1

Razor 42: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=110043_QefYtC6mvl4aVckogjwq&board_id=1

RyeMac3: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=110395_aZE0G0Wia9XLGG9khDxy&board_id=1

I mean..the chest/pec appearances range from, for lack of a better term “man boobs” to squared type pecs. It looks odd and not realistic unlike the predecessors to M6. I’ve tried everything I could think of and nothing fixes the problem.

For those out there who have had better luck and more natural looking M6 characters, I’s love to know what settings you are using or what you are doing differently.
ANY help and guidance is greatly appreciated. Otherwise, I think I’ll forgo using M6. I think DS jumped the gun on this one.
By the way, I use DZ 4.5 on windows 7

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Posted: 24 December 2013 12:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I would recommend this

http://www.daz3d.com/shape-shift-for-genesis-2-male-s-m6

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Posted: 24 December 2013 12:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Celtic_Knight - 24 December 2013 11:53 AM

To Estroyer:
I can ref to tjohn post: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=108969_l1nEtwd829BngsTz6RvM&board_id=1

Simon Jm: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=108977_gMNY23HGNkt9WOkYGrVb&board_id=1

Cagnazzo82: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=109050_XptlOaJQZaKMUuz0TiIC&board_id=1

Jimzombie: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=109066_K4dleTxCnL4U6SKOtVFO&board_id=1

scorpion64dragon: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=109278_wNuxIYWSk9KHiBRBMKnA&board_id=1

Razor 42: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=110043_QefYtC6mvl4aVckogjwq&board_id=1

RyeMac3: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/index.php?&ACT=50&fid=4&aid=110395_aZE0G0Wia9XLGG9khDxy&board_id=1

I mean..the chest/pec appearances range from, for lack of a better term “man boobs” to squared type pecs. It looks odd and not realistic unlike the predecessors to M6. I’ve tried everything I could think of and nothing fixes the problem.

For those out there who have had better luck and more natural looking M6 characters, I’s love to know what settings you are using or what you are doing differently.
ANY help and guidance is greatly appreciated. Otherwise, I think I’ll forgo using M6. I think DS jumped the gun on this one.
By the way, I use DZ 4.5 on windows 7

Actually the pecs are fairly realistic compared to previous generations. It’s certainly different than what we’ve seen.

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Posted: 24 December 2013 12:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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3Ddreamer - 24 December 2013 08:37 AM

I agree with Celtic_Knight, I find the chest area just a little weird myself, to the extent I still use M5 for any barechested pictures and only use M6 clothed. I did find that applying characters seemed to improved the pecs a little.

Yes, I agree with Celtic_Knight as well, M6 chest is all weird.

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Posted: 24 December 2013 12:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Thats NOT what I’m seeing in the samples given or in my case when the base is loaded then M6 or M6 HD or some other characters.
How are you accomplishing what is the seen in the sample you have posted?

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Posted: 24 December 2013 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Celtic_Knight - 24 December 2013 12:55 PM

Thats NOT what I’m seeing in the samples given or in my case when the base is loaded then M6 or M6 HD or some other characters.
How are you accomplishing what is the seen in the sample you have posted?

You said M6’s chest wasn’t realistic. This is a similar real life example.

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Posted: 24 December 2013 12:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Celtic_Knight - 24 December 2013 12:55 PM

Thats NOT what I’m seeing in the samples given or in my case when the base is loaded then M6 or M6 HD or some other characters.
How are you accomplishing what is the seen in the sample you have posted?

Because thats a photo of a guy that doesn’t look like M6 at all.

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Posted: 24 December 2013 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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What you just posted YES! Other are more sqaure-ish or “man- boobish”

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Celtic_Knight - 24 December 2013 12:55 PM

Thats NOT what I’m seeing in the samples given or in my case when the base is loaded then M6 or M6 HD or some other characters.
How are you accomplishing what is the seen in the sample you have posted?

You said M6’s chest wasn’t realistic. This is a similar real life example.

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Posted: 24 December 2013 01:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Celtic_Knight - 24 December 2013 01:00 PM

What you just posted YES! Other are more sqaure-ish or “man- boobish”

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Celtic_Knight - 24 December 2013 12:55 PM

Thats NOT what I’m seeing in the samples given or in my case when the base is loaded then M6 or M6 HD or some other characters.
How are you accomplishing what is the seen in the sample you have posted?

You said M6’s chest wasn’t realistic. This is a similar real life example.

No. They’re not.

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