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Posted: 08 October 2012 10:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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If anyone is honestly looking for high quality modeled guns for Poser and DS that also have full functionality, then I would HIGHLY recommend Motokamishii’s store over at Rendo - http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/index.php?vendor=motokamishii - I own 10 of his guns and they are all high quality workmanship that personally, is not matched elsewhere yet.

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Posted: 08 October 2012 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Or there is of course always the Firearms pack   here in the DAZ 3D store
http://www.daz3d.com/shop/environments-props/weapons-warfare/the-firearm-pack

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Posted: 08 October 2012 01:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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But, although the different vendors may have nominally the same gun it’s unlikely to be an exact match (given the uncertainties over Poser scale) and is very unlikely to be placed and oriented identically in the scene. I will point this out as well, but given that they are Questor’s guns it may not be solely up to DAZ whether they will be reuploaded.

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Posted: 08 October 2012 02:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Here’s a list of what Freebies I have from the archive!

ps_fr185_Pistol (Dessert Eagle)
ps_fr046_ModernFirearms (Questor Guns)
ps_fr244_CorrodedCity
ps_fr255_NightStorm
ps_fr012_Universalwings
ps_fr021_UniversalWings
ps_fr008_Priestaccess
ps_fr027_Woodpeckerprop
ps_fr030_MusicalLyre
ps_fr182_GenieBottle
ps_fr204_CargoDoors
ps_fr208_OperatingRoom
ps_fr229_LorehandCanes
ps_fr235_RogueGoggles
ps_fr243_ArmorTrain
ps_fr250_MagicCarpet
ps_fr253_Gingerbread
ps_fr258_Radiance
ps_fr261_OperaHouse
ps_fr262_ThroneDagobert
ps_fr267_UkkoThrone
ps_fr268_TreeFrog
ps_fr269_MorphingPython
ps_fr271_GiantChess
ps_fr274_BNRug
ps_fr090b_Barstool
ps_fr257_DrakkorianBattle

maybe this will help Richard asking about getting them back up!

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Posted: 08 October 2012 02:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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IIRC, the Desert Eagle pistol has an external call from a pz2 for the DAZ Desert Soldiers.

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Posted: 08 October 2012 05:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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As I was specifically mentioned in this thread - thank Richard - I thought it only fair to make a comment from my perspective.

First, the Desert Eagle isn’t my model. As I recall it was made by the same vendor who made the Modern Desert Soldier pack, which was 3D Universe I believe.

Second, while I do fully understand the frustration of losing the free items from the archive, the larger majority of things in there (and I include my models in this) were old. For myself, I often found them rather embarrassing as they were very early models and to be frank, somewhat on the messy side mesh-wise. I can understand why Daz decided to simply do away with that section, although items like the aforementioned Desert Eagle ideally should be linked from the product page correctly.  This is something that the web guys could perhaps fix if somebody files a report with (insert assistance here please Richard) either store support or the web site bug report. I’m uncertain which would be relevant.

Meanwhile, there are pose sets here by Don Albert which contain relevant weapons for the poses from those sets. Admittedly these are more period related than modern so perhaps unsuitable for current purposes.

It is unlikely that I would agree to the guns being hosted here at Daz again simply because they are very old. The mapping on them is beneath basic and the mesh quality isn’t that great either. However, and I say this very tentatively as I have huge demands on my time at the moment and probably will up until close to Christmas. I may be tempted to make new packs of both swords, knives and guns (similar but not identical) to the ones which are now lost.  I don’t know whether Daz would be interested in such a thing as a permanent freebie - or if they can even set such a thing up under the new store. But it is something I have been considering.

No promises, and certainly no time scale will be offered, but I confess I have an urge to make something that goes bang.

The attached image should at least give some hint of the kind of thing that “might” by offered in such a pack, this being (obviously) modern weapons.

Obviously though, as Richard pointed out earlier, there will be slight compatibility issues with any poses because of the differences in scaling, so some correction would be required.

My apologies to anybody who is disappointed by my thoughts in regards to the old weapon packs, but in all honesty they have far outlived their time.

I won’t comment about the other items which inhabited the archive as their fate is up to Daz and the creators of those files.

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Posted: 08 October 2012 06:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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It may need to be determined on a per item and per vendor basis but a few of those older items are arguably rather good.  I think some of the scenery stuff is a serious loss to lose such as the stairwell, bridge, and fountain.

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Posted: 09 October 2012 05:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Thanks Questor.

Where a product depends on, or at least can use, a no-longer available freebie I would make a bug report to the Content tracker against the product itself.

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Posted: 09 October 2012 07:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Posted: 09 October 2012 07:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Richard Haseltine - 08 October 2012 01:08 PM

But, although the different vendors may have nominally the same gun it’s unlikely to be an exact match (given the uncertainties over Poser scale) and is very unlikely to be placed and oriented identically in the scene. I will point this out as well, but given that they are Questor’s guns it may not be solely up to DAZ whether they will be reuploaded.

Yes, exactly.  I understand exactly what Questor explains in his post, and I think this is a completely acceptable standpoint.  I don’t think my frustration is with the lack of freebies so much as the fact that purchased products may not function correctly or to their fullest without the freebie.  One can argue that the weapon poses can be used (with the weapons mentioned) with a little tweaking.  But other items —like the morphing column—are disappointing. I don’t know who made the column in the first place, but it might be nice to have that offered as a bonus with purchase, included in the download.  And yet, there is the issue that Questor mentioned… If an artist does not WANT the freebie offered, then the product will never be usable as it was intended.  In any case, I think an evaluation of all products in the marketplace referencing a freebie is warranted.

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Posted: 09 October 2012 01:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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The TreeFrog and the ThroneDagobert were once the required subjects of Beginners contests. The frog wasn’t the greatest animal prop either, but you could do some really amusing things with it. (contest thread) (extremely silly render) There were also free textures for the frog to make it less toony. The throne was a great fantasy prop. Yes, the archive was a mixed bag, but there were some real gems in there. For Daz to host these things for SO long, and then to simply toss them out with the dishwater is really inconsiderate of the users. The really annoying thing to me is that even though I scraped that site pretty thoroughly, I can’t use any of those items in freebie contests because I can’t provide working links. New users are completely denied the use of these items. They’re just files. Why can’t they be hosted on an as-is, where-is, you-get-what-you pay-for basis?

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Posted: 09 October 2012 01:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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I made a set of textures for the tree frog…but never put them up. 

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