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Posted: 19 September 2013 09:58 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Not sure if I should post here or nuts and bolts. or somewhere else entirely.
I am having a problem with my test eyes not being “glossy” they look okay, but they don’t have that WOW factor. Can I beg someone to take a look at them and see what I am missing?  I can email the zip file or load it to ShareCG.
The green eyes are mine, the grey eyes have that “glossy” look I am trying to get.

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Posted: 19 September 2013 10:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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The glossiness dial on the surfaces in DS is backwards. 100% for full matte and 0% for full gloss. Set it to around 60-70% and see if that helps.

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Posted: 19 September 2013 10:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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This is allowed in this forum if this is a Free item WIP thread. If not I can move it to the forum of your choice.
IF it is a FreeBe WIP please state that in the post or title by editing the post.

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Posted: 19 September 2013 10:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I tried the glossiness at 10% and did not see a noticeable difference.

Other suggestions?

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Posted: 19 September 2013 10:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Specular is my only other idea. What surfaces did you try the gloss on?

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Also try putting a reflection map in the opacity setting of the Cornea.

You could either do a black map with white reflections for a forced reflection (top image), or a white map with black circles in the cornea area to get a general gloss without a forced image reflection (bottom image). Most people, from what I’ve read, prefer the non-forced reflection method (bottom image). That way they get an accurate reflection of their scenery/lighting.

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Posted: 19 September 2013 11:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Thank you I will try the reflection map thing.

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Posted: 20 September 2013 06:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Also, if you are adding gloss it needs something to reflect, so depending on your light location, there might be no reflections in an empty scene…

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Posted: 21 September 2013 02:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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What do you think? I played around with the cornea map and this is what I came up with. I think it looks good from a distance but not so sure about up close.

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Posted: 21 September 2013 05:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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While it’s always more difficult to make things look good in closeups, I think you did a good job.  Character looks nice overall.

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Posted: 21 September 2013 06:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I think you did fine. Eyes are always a pain in the rear and are usually the first thing that give off a 3d rendering. The only way to get uber-realistic eyes is to actually map them using photographs of real human eyes. Take a look at Raiya’s Look at Me Eyes to see what I mean. http://www.daz3d.com/look-at-me-eyes

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Posted: 24 September 2013 04:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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remember that a LOT depends on the lighting.  You need some different lights in the scene to add to the eyes specularity. The lighting in your pics seem a bit flat, Star, try playing with some different light settings to see how they affect the eye specular. Also look at eye settings on great character sets to see what settings are commonly used- if you are using DS then try something with appropriate DS mats.  Also I highly recommend using EYEris http://www.daz3d.com/project-eyeris for great looking eyes and shaders that bring out the specular in eyes. smile

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Posted: 24 September 2013 12:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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@Vaskinia - I have “Look at Me Eyes” and they are a favorite of mine! 
@beloveddalia - You are right about lighting have a great deal of effect on eyes.

Thank you everyone for the feedback!

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