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Posted: 16 September 2013 08:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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a lot of those sites show the number of downloads to date.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 08:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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On most of them you can see the amount of times it has been downloaded, specially if hosted by storage sites like Megaupload and those types.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 08:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Well, I am very grateful to all of you who continue producing content for us!  Like many artistic pursuits, not everyone breaks into the “big time”.  A lot of us make pocket money from our art.  I’d be the first to admit that lack of interest is a huge factor in my collection of pocket change.  I’m always afraid that something I love to do will turn into a chore.  But at least my pocket money allows me to buy more brilliant content. Thanks again to all the PAs.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 08:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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When it comes to Piracy most vendors check for themselves on Google or someone in the community will inform them. Other sites sometimes check the galleries, if people find you using stuff you have not bought they take action.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 08:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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If you ever come across something that you know is being sold on DAZ 3D please submit a support ticket to Copyright/Abuse so DAZ’s copyright dept can look into it and possibly have the product removed from the site.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 09:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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udgang99 - 16 September 2013 05:12 AM

Hey guys,

I was wondering if any of you guys have an idea wether a creator here on Daz3d can actually make a living, making stuff for the 3d store?
I mean, people like Stone Mason, Antfarm aso have been around for years, and have an impressive amount of stuff in their stores ...

Of course, it’s all about the quality of the products the creators produce, but are there buyers enough for a good 3d-creator to make a living?

I’m just currious. wink

Short version: it’s not something to quit and switch to if you’ve already got a highly paid job with benefits, but it can make a very nice transition from the service-sector jobs available to a lot of disappointed college grads.

Long version:

This is my primary source of income, with Renderosity representing a lesser but still useful one (this is my bread and butter, that is a nice “movies and videogames” bonus).  Of course, it’s taken me a few years to get to that point.  I’ve been doing this in a serious way since about ‘09 (the year of my first successful Rendo product) and as a DAZ PA for just over two years now, I think.  I started out doing 3d part-time while I worked a part-time day job at a coffee shop.


Fellow PAs who have posted are right in that you have to be prepared for the risks and you have to be ready to do the work, but I work fewer hours at this than any job I’ve ever had, given that I don’t have to commute anywhere to do it.  Of course, I also worked some “overtime” getting my stores to where I can afford to work at a slower rate.  And 3d permeates my life.  Everywhere I go I think about it and about fashion, genre content, popular media, new tools and techniques.  I keep a list of product ideas on my phone, and a paper notepad for sketches in my purse.  It’s not a job I pick up and put down.  I’m fine with that because I just love it to death. 


The other thing that hasn’t been mentioned is that you have to be prepared to keep up with the tech, to learn new techniques and move forward as the market moves forward, or you will be left behind.  You can coast with basic mastery of your tools and programs, but that’s not how you excel.  This is a learning job in a way that few other jobs are.  I end up using the scientific method almost every day, in a way that I never would have if I’d actually become a biologist (which is what I trained for originally!).  We all grumble at innovation at some point, but finding the mental space for it is absolutely mandatory to working in 3d.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 11:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Something to ponder, I may be wrong. But…

Things may have changed, but one thing to consider too (I was an online business owner) is the HOST (server) of the website might be held legally responsible if they are made aware of pirated material. (So could the registrar, as your legal agreement states you will not engage in illegal activities. Double whammy.)  I SO enjoyed having a site removed not once, but twice in 2005.  That’s all easily tracked through Internic WhoIs. So they were posting my images and I sent the host a warning email that action wasn’t taken within 5 days, it would be followed up by my attorney to the State Attorney General for them hosting pirated material. BAMM. Site was down (not just my content!) within 2 days the first time, and my content within 8 hours the second time. State Attorney Generals are big on fraud, particularly the internet. On May 27, 2011, 42 out of 50 State Attorney Generals petitioned Congress to get on the ball with internet piracy.

If you’re in another state, wonder if that could be interstate fraud and it would involve the feds? I’m really not in the loop on this anymore. This is just a thought. If the website doesn’t have contact info, WhoIs will have it-it’s required by law. If they don’t, report them and let the fun begin with THAT violation.

http://www.internic.net/whois.html
Tells you the server and registrar.

Someone with legal background would know more on this, but it worked for me, twice.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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There will always be pirates.  Its not about getting a program they can use but instead about getting something expensive they cannot afford and feeling good about it even though most never bother using it or even installing it.  If any of them were satisfied with what they had then they would stop.  Also, they are always trying to out do one another with how much they have.  I honestly dont waste my time looking for pirated copies of my stuff.  I have better things to do then to loose my peace over somthing like this.  I feel my time is better spent making more and enjoying what I do.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Mattymanx - 16 September 2013 12:18 PM

There will always be pirates.  Its not about getting a program they can use but instead about getting something expensive they cannot afford and feeling good about it even though most never bother using it or even installing it.  If any of them were satisfied with what they had then they would stop.  Also, they are always trying to out do one another with how much they have.  I honestly dont waste my time looking for pirated copies of my stuff.  I have better things to do then to loose my peace over somthing like this.  I feel my time is better spent making more and enjoying what I do.

Same.  Those aren’t people who would be buying if they couldn’t steal, so they’re not “lost” customers.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Many piracy sites and file hosting sites are not based in the United States, and many countries do not have copyright laws and/or any legal obligation to the US copyright laws.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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ps, please dont take my previous comment as condoning it as i do not.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Disagree.. They are lost customers. I know plenty of people who buy legit stuff, but when money is tight, they resort to piracy. End of they day they never end up buying the original product.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Mattymanx - 16 September 2013 12:31 PM

ps, please dont take my previous comment as condoning it as i do not.

Ditto.  I just mean it’s not worth giving myself a coronary over.

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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and I don’t think that if someone pirates they wouldn’t buy it to begin with.  There were posts on this forum for a software package complaining of one products serialization was encumbering and unnecessary and dozens of other posts on another forum asking for a crack for the same software that actually worked. Some artists who work for commission pirate figures and props, some pirates have actually stated they believe the artists who develop models actually pirate the software to model so it’s okay to pirate.

I guess I have a question and that question is; is there something that’s being overlooked that would benefit the artist, and stop the pirate like encryption to an email or account or something along those lines?

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Posted: 16 September 2013 12:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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This thread prompted me to do a Google search for my own products, and sure enough, SPEX for Genesis is on a torrent site.  I finally feel “legit”, since none of my older Rendo products appeared on pirate sites.  LOL

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