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Posted: 24 May 2012 03:48 AM   [ Ignore ]
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There seems to be no rhyme nor reason for the ordering of threads any more. They’re not ordered either by time-and-date of most recent post, nor by time-and-date of first post, nor alphabetically by subject, nor by any other moderately easily discernable order.

I can only assume somebody (or something) is shuffling them at random.

Who (or what) is doing it?

Please can they stop doing it, and put the threads into some sensible order instead?

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Posted: 24 May 2012 04:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I just noticed this - and this thread is at the bottom of the last page.
Maybe it’s to dissuade people from ‘bumping’ threads LOL

Dear Daz, please allow/fix sorting the posts by most-recently posted to

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Posted: 24 May 2012 04:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It’s not that way be choice, but fixing it will take time (it’s annoying but doesn’t actually break anything, so I suspect it will be lower priority than other issues).

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Posted: 24 May 2012 05:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Richard Haseltine - 24 May 2012 04:48 AM

It’s not that way be choice, but fixing it will take time (it’s annoying but doesn’t actually break anything, so I suspect it will be lower priority than other issues).

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Posted: 24 May 2012 06:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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It doesn’t break anything - and while there are only 3 or 4 forum pages in total for a sub-forum then it’s not a big deal - but it will become a big issue in the future.
So long as it’s on the ‘todo’ list smile

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Posted: 24 May 2012 08:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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The main problem I see with it, is that I will most likely miss any updates to posts that I am interested in since updated posts won’t be bumped up.

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Posted: 24 May 2012 08:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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View new posts works

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Posted: 24 May 2012 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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chohole - 24 May 2012 08:40 AM

View new posts works

...if by “works” you mean it presents you with a list of posts in some sort of most-recently-posted order.

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem to do anything useful like limiting its results to the part of the forum you’re presently viewing, or collapsing results by thread, so chances are you’re in for a whole lot of paging through stuff you’re not interested in which ever way you go.

If the posting rate stays anywhere near its current level, I figure this thread ordering issue will be a major one inside a day, and a critical one inside three days.

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Posted: 24 May 2012 10:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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chohole - 24 May 2012 08:40 AM

View new posts works

...if by “works” you mean it presents you with a list of posts in some sort of most-recently-posted order.

Unfortunately it doesn’t seem to do anything useful like limiting its results to the part of the forum you’re presently viewing, or collapsing results by thread, so chances are you’re in for a whole lot of paging through stuff you’re not interested in which ever way you go.

If the posting rate stays anywhere near its current level, I figure this thread ordering issue will be a major one inside a day, and a critical one inside three days.

Try Advanced Search you can look at only one forum or for a subject.

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Posted: 24 May 2012 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Richard Haseltine - 24 May 2012 04:48 AM

It’s not that way be choice, but fixing it will take time (it’s annoying but doesn’t actually break anything, so I suspect it will be lower priority than other issues).

I wonder if this is something that broke when the forum software was set up, or is it the way the programmer intended it to work? Either way, I can’t say I’m very impressed. I’m struggling a bit, but I’m gradually figuring out how to read the forums as easily as I did the old one. There’s just so many differences, and so many very handy features that just aren’t there in the new setup. <sigh>

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Posted: 24 May 2012 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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What I don’t understand is why the forums had to change at all. It seems like a, well, we’re changing the store, might as well change the forums while we’re at it since we think we should do it at some point in the future anyway.

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Posted: 24 May 2012 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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but fixing it will take time (it’s annoying but doesn’t actually break anything, so I suspect it will be lower priority than other issues).

I actually think it should be the top forum-related priority; at the moment it’s harder than hell to simply browse the forum looking for new posts that might be of interest. I don’t think I’ve ever been on another forum that doesn’t move active threads to the top of the first page…how difficult can this be to implement?

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Posted: 24 May 2012 10:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Richard Haseltine - 24 May 2012 04:48 AM

It’s not that way be choice, but fixing it will take time (it’s annoying but doesn’t actually break anything, so I suspect it will be lower priority than other issues).

 
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Posted: 25 May 2012 07:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Haslor - 24 May 2012 10:38 AM

Try Advanced Search you can look at only one forum or for a subject.

Fine if you want to look for something specific, but not a lot of use for keeping up with whatever things are on-going…

At present the practical options are:

1) Use “Newest posts” and accept that you’re going to see stuff from everywhere including all the sections you’re not interested in, and that you’ll only catch maybe the most recent hour or two of stuff even so…

2) Go to the last page to see what’s new, and miss updates that happen to older threads…

3) Plough through the whole lot looking for stuff that’s new. The practicality of this approach will drop off dramatically as the number of threads increases. Two days in and we’re already five pages down. That’s getting to the sensible limit for scanning everything. By this time next week it’ll be totally impractical. The poor folk who’ve got tthe job of keeping an eye on things will spend their whole time scrolling through pages and pages of lists of threads…

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Posted: 25 May 2012 09:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I agree that fixing the order of posts is top priority for the forums. I’ve deployed a few forums myself and usually the sort order is simply a setting that you can change. Daz’s response makes me think this forum software is lacking functionality you can get with free or open source solutions :(

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Posted: 26 May 2012 02:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Yes, feeling a bit dazed (no pun).

I started a thread at the Commons to give everyone a chance
to offer constructive suggestions…..but can’t find it, and my post was added to another similar thread
(with no note to explain), which I also do not have a clue where it is…..very disorienting and disconcerting.

They do the same d&%* thing at Home Depot & the super-markets,  re-arranging all the merchandise so you have to
hunt for everything all over again! 

Very disruptive! raspberry

Taking a sabbatical till the dust clears.

Cheers

(edit: found an email that a moderator had merged my thread with another. Would have been good if DAZ
simply created a sticky asking for constructive suggestions to keep it all together wink

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