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Posted: 24 June 2012 06:43 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Something from the oil boom days ... to match the 1930’s truck and themes. Any ideas?

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Posted: 24 June 2012 09:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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These sorts of thing? (not a model, just pictures…)


http://www.bombago.com/082505/~max0114.jpg

http://content.lib.washington.edu/cdm4/item_viewer.php?CISOROOT=/ftm&CISOPTR=734

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Posted: 24 June 2012 10:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Exactly. :D Do you think this is something I need to add to my model request thread?

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Posted: 25 June 2012 03:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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More people might recognise what you want if you called it an oil derrick.

Have you considered putting one together from cube primitives? It’s essentially just a set of beams of consistent size but varying length, all tacked together. Simplest way to assemble it would be to construct one side on the flat, then merge 4 copies together and bring them together in the pyramid form.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 05:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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http://www.sharecg.com/v/42815/View/5/3D-Model/Oil-Derrick-Prop

Maybe try with this one:
http://www.sharecg.com/v/48174/View/11/Poser/Simple-Scaffold-V1.0

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Posted: 25 June 2012 07:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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How close are they to the camera?  If they are in the distance then you can easily use primitives to construct one, save it as a scene, and then merge multiple in if you’re looking for many.


If they are up close, and you need lots of detail, you need to decide which type you want.  The wood types were constructed differently from the metal, and you need to decide if they are the temporary types, or the more permanent types.  The area of the country may also make a difference.  Those built in the more northern regions were a bit different than those in the south.


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Posted: 25 June 2012 08:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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DWG - 25 June 2012 03:38 AM

More people might recognise what you want if you called it an oil derrick.

Have you considered putting one together from cube primitives? It’s essentially just a set of beams of consistent size but varying length, all tacked together. Simplest way to assemble it would be to construct one side on the flat, then merge 4 copies together and bring them together in the pyramid form.


I am nooo modeler ...lol. big surprise

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Posted: 25 June 2012 08:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Kerya - 25 June 2012 05:28 AM

http://www.sharecg.com/v/42815/View/5/3D-Model/Oil-Derrick-Prop

Maybe try with this one:
http://www.sharecg.com/v/48174/View/11/Poser/Simple-Scaffold-V1.0


The first is too primitive, the second too straight ... lol. Thanks, though.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 08:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Kendall Sears - 25 June 2012 07:22 AM

How close are they to the camera?  If they are in the distance then you can easily use primitives to construct one, save it as a scene, and then merge multiple in if you’re looking for many.


This book has it about mid-way. Close enough to see is the period or style is wrong, but not so close as to see what type of wood it is. However, this is series, so I always shoot for good models that are diverse enough for close shots f need be.

If they are up close, and you need lots of detail, you need to decide which type you want.  The wood types were constructed differently from the metal, and you need to decide if they are the temporary types, or the more permanent types.  The area of the country may also make a difference.  Those built in the more northern regions were a bit different than those in the south.


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I need the type common in Texas during the depression era, at the very beginning of the oil boom days. Does that help?

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Posted: 25 June 2012 09:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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How close are they to the camera?  If they are in the distance then you can easily use primitives to construct one, save it as a scene, and then merge multiple in if you’re looking for many.


This book has it about mid-way. Close enough to see is the period or style is wrong, but not so close as to see what type of wood it is. However, this is series, so I always shoot for good models that are diverse enough for close shots f need be.

If they are up close, and you need lots of detail, you need to decide which type you want.  The wood types were constructed differently from the metal, and you need to decide if they are the temporary types, or the more permanent types.  The area of the country may also make a difference.  Those built in the more northern regions were a bit different than those in the south.


Kendall


I need the type common in Texas during the depression era, at the very beginning of the oil boom days. Does that help?


OK.  For the distant wells, you can get away with primitives textured with transmaps. (EDIT:  Use a Cone Primitive with 4 sides to get the derrick shape)  Very low poly and easy to work with.  For more visible items, but not highly detailed, you can create either 3 inch x 3 inch, and 4 inch x 4 inch primative cubes and then scale and translate them to the correct places to create the derrick.  Look for images of the “Lucas Gusher” for an example of open derrick construction from that period of time.  It really isn’t that hard.


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Posted: 25 June 2012 09:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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The problem with a 1930s oil derrick is that the tower part is fairly simple, and any close up shots would really only show the legs. I’m not sure just the tower will sell the impression of a tower. The derrick should include drilling equipment and perhaps a base deck. Otherwise you could get away with any simple metal or wood frame tower like the ones in the pictures.


BTW- One more annoyance with the new forums: Adding more than one image/attachment sucks!!

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Posted: 25 June 2012 10:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Since I think we’ve pretty much established that a good 3D derrick prop is not currently available for the time period I need, I think I will move this conversation to my “model and product requests” thread: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/162/


I know ya say it’s not that hard to build, but I don’t understand blender, nor have the time to learn it, I haven’t had the time to learn my Hexagon software, and I am constantly fighting publishing deadlines ... lol.


Hopefully if I put in my product request thread somebody will pick up the project.


Thanks, guys :D

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Posted: 25 June 2012 11:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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When do you need this by?

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Posted: 25 June 2012 12:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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lordvicore - 25 June 2012 11:52 AM

When do you need this by?


Maybe in two weeks, three on the outside? I posted a request in my model request thread, above. If there are any modelers here that are always on the look-out for unique model practice ... I welcome all. :D

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Posted: 25 June 2012 02:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I started an oil derrick, it’s just a frame now… I’ll see how much progress I can make and if it makes sense… Reference pictures are hard to come by on the internet… most are very small.
Here is a quick KT render…

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Posted: 25 June 2012 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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lordvicore - 25 June 2012 02:53 PM

I started an oil derrick, it’s just a frame now… I’ll see how much progress I can make and if it makes sense… Reference pictures are hard to come by on the internet… most are very small.
Here is a quick KT render…

Cool! Would you mind terrible re-posting this in the “model request” thread above? I am trying to keep all of he things I request in one thread.

 

 

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