Michael 6?

HeraHera Posts: 886
edited December 1969 in The Commons

Any news on him?

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 5,425
    edited December 1969

    I'm hoping soon myself. AS much as I like gen 6 females, I prefer the male characters.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,924
    edited August 2013

    Hopefully NEXT! lol I love the gen6 females, I think they're fantastic :cheese: in fact, the last few months all I've bought has been females and their stuff.... The males, however, seem sadly neglected and having a large cast of male characters, its disappointing for me that we haven't even got the G2M base figure with his head/body morphs.

    I've anxiously waited to upgrade my many characters to make use of the Gen6 improvements seen in G2F. - While its been great getting so many wonderful G2F characters/packs, I feel a little excluded from the market. 8-/

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 5,425
    edited December 1969

    I agree! My males need an update, and I'm always looking for new content and poses.

    I just hope there will be as many pose sets as have been released for gen 6 females released for the ladies. Yeah, I know I can dream.

    In general I think releasing a male product will provide a nice break from the ongoing female products.

  • tonymousetonymouse Posts: 230
    edited December 1969

    I am sure he will show up eventually, but not until they have exhausted every female option first ;)

  • kyu2130kyu2130 Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    yeah, i think Girl 6 is next on the list.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Female base figures first has always been the way. I'm hoping for M6 before A6 but I'm not really expecting it.

  • jaxprogjaxprog Posts: 120
    edited December 1969

    When A6 comes out that is definite buy for me.

    I just purchased my first male product set, Michael 5 suite this evening for some renders lacking male content. I must say for a product that is not gen 6 the Michael 5 suite absolutely rocks. What prompted me to buy it, was when placed the default male genesis in my scene and the guy was just plain flat... No nipples, no gens, hardly any materials to work with.. So when I bought M5 Suite I was absolutely wow'ed when I loaded him into my scene. So, whatever improvements are to be made in gen 6 male product, in my opinion is going to have steep climb to overcome high standard of excellence and quality, found in Michael 5 suite.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,924
    edited December 1969

    Jaderail said:
    Female base figures first has always been the way. I'm hoping for M6 before A6 but I'm not really expecting it.

    Though Michael always came directly after Victoria. I guess we were spoiled when Genesis1 released, from day one we could create male characters.

  • BarubaryBarubary Posts: 947
    edited December 1969

    If I had to guess, I would expect Michael 6 early next year. If they're doing things like last time around, you'll get the Michael 6 Pro Bundle for free if you spend a million dollars during this year's PC sale.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 3,774
    edited December 1969

    Or you might have to wait a couple of years as with the Gen 4 figures.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,081
    edited August 2013

    I think they're deliberately holding him and G2M to release with DS5.

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  • BarubaryBarubary Posts: 947
    edited December 1969

    I think they're deliberately holding him and G2M to release with DS5.

    To what end?

  • tonymousetonymouse Posts: 230
    edited December 1969

    Barubary said:
    I think they're deliberately holding him and G2M to release with DS5.

    To what end?

    Because they can. ;)

  • HeraHera Posts: 886
    edited August 2013

    tonymouse said:
    Barubary said:
    I think they're deliberately holding him and G2M to release with DS5.

    To what end?

    Because they can. ;)

    In 2016 mayhaps then....

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,924
    edited December 1969

    The marketing department will flip out if/when they realize the only iconic characters left to release are all male ;-P

  • KickAir 8PKickAir 8P Posts: 1,843
    edited December 1969

    Spyro said:
    The marketing department will flip out if/when they realize the only iconic characters left to release are all male ;-P

    Granting that I think they should've released V6 and M6 simultaneously, I think they should release M6 next (with realistic malegens, we're all artists here), then Aiko6 & Hiro6 simultaneously -- most of the people who use anime figures are illustrating stories, they need both genders.

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 1,728
    edited December 1969

    Just to be a nit-picking wizenhiemer, they should have releases Genesis 2 Male at the same time as Genesis 2 Female. V6 and (eventual)M6 are character morphs, can't have the characters without the bases.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 5,425
    edited December 1969

    I would love the release of genesis 2 male base, and child morphs if any. =-)

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,081
    edited December 1969

    Spyro said:
    The marketing department will flip out if/when they realize the only iconic characters left to release are all male ;-P

    Granting that I think they should've released V6 and M6 simultaneously, I think they should release M6 next (with realistic malegens, we're all artists here), then Aiko6 & Hiro6 simultaneously -- most of the people who use anime figures are illustrating stories, they need both genders.

    Granted A6 & H6 are a couple again.

  • WoolyloachWoolyloach Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I imagine it'll go like this:

    - Aiko 6
    - Stephanie 6
    - She-Freak 6
    - M6
    - Hiro 6
    - Freak 6
    - David 6
    - Victoria 7

    Just my gut feeling.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,924
    edited December 1969

    I imagine it'll go like this:

    - Aiko 6
    - Stephanie 6
    - She-Freak 6
    - M6
    - Hiro 6
    - Freak 6
    - David 6
    - Victoria 7

    Just my gut feeling.

    Sadly I get the same feeling wooly.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,081
    edited December 1969

    Spyro said:
    The marketing department will flip out if/when they realize the only iconic characters left to release are all male ;-P

    Hmm...

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,081
    edited August 2013

    Damn, you both beat me to it...

    I say, good! Let the girls have their hour of fame. Then when G2M comes out with the boys they'll get more attention in the store and, in doing so, will get them more sales. Let those tables finally turn! >:D

    Though, with Gia around, I wouldn't hold my breath for a SF6...

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  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 3,398
    edited December 1969

    The problem with releasing both male and female characters are the same time is getting enough support for both. Its best to relase just one character and allow PAs to work on it then try to double it up.

  • KickAir 8PKickAir 8P Posts: 1,843
    edited August 2013

    Mattymanx said:
    The problem with releasing both male and female characters are the same time is getting enough support for both. Its best to relase just one character and allow PAs to work on it then try to double it up.

    You say that like there's some way for you to know -- since it's never been done, I wonder how?

    I've no doubt that having the opposite gender figure immediately available will boost the sales of both Aiko6 and Hiro6, but there will be other, currently unknown, factors involved: how well product conversions between G2F and G2M work, how well the figures and accessories meet the needs of anime artists and fanartists, if potential customers see the pricing as fair, if available spending money hasn't already been consumed by DAZ's figure-of-the-month plan, etc.

    Still, Aiko6 / Hiro6 would be an excellent test case, since their user base relies on having both genders more so than other figures/characters. If the PAs aren't willing to support these customers of their own volition, DAZ can commission the needed products, from outside the current stable if necessary.

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  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 1,956
    edited August 2013

    Mattymanx said:
    The problem with releasing both male and female characters are the same time is getting enough support for both. Its best to relase just one character and allow PAs to work on it then try to double it up.

    You say that like there's some way for you to know -- since it's never been done, I wonder how?

    I've no doubt that having the opposite gender figure immediately available will boost the sales of both Aiko6 and Hiro6, but there will be other, currently unknown, factors involved: how well product conversions between G2F and G2M work, how well the figures and accessories meet the needs of anime artists and fanartists, if potential customers see the pricing as fair, if available spending money hasn't already been consumed by DAZ's figure-of-the-month plan, etc.

    Still, Aiko6 / Hiro6 would be an excellent test case, since their user base relies on having both genders more so than other figures/characters. If the PAs aren't willing to support these customers of their own volition, DAZ can commission the needed products, from outside the current stable if necessary.

    This is an extremely bad idea. Dividing your attention between things is never as good as focusing on one.

    I'll tell you what exactly what would happen.

    PAs would make items for the female.

    The male would get NOTHING or the items would be inferior to what's in the female bundle. People would complain because the difference would be obvious.

    PAs already choose what they want to make for a figure, selecting between two at the same time.... yeah, you're asking for trouble ;)

    Promoting one figure properly, ensuring the bundles get enough content is hard enough; two figures would really be impossible.

    Release one, focus marketing and products on that is always the best choice.

    Edit: That's not to mention that people already balk at the price of the bundles, and now having two release at the same time? Most people couldn't afford to get both.

    Post edited by Male-M3dia on
  • KickAir 8PKickAir 8P Posts: 1,843
    edited December 1969

    Mattymanx said:
    The problem with releasing both male and female characters are the same time is getting enough support for both. Its best to relase just one character and allow PAs to work on it then try to double it up.

    You say that like there's some way for you to know -- since it's never been done, I wonder how?

    I've no doubt that having the opposite gender figure immediately available will boost the sales of both Aiko6 and Hiro6, but there will be other, currently unknown, factors involved: how well product conversions between G2F and G2M work, how well the figures and accessories meet the needs of anime artists and fanartists, if potential customers see the pricing as fair, if available spending money hasn't already been consumed by DAZ's figure-of-the-month plan, etc.

    Still, Aiko6 / Hiro6 would be an excellent test case, since their user base relies on having both genders more so than other figures/characters. If the PAs aren't willing to support these customers of their own volition, DAZ can commission the needed products, from outside the current stable if necessary.


    This is an extremely bad idea. Dividing your attention between things is never as good as focusing on one.

    I'll tell you what exactly what would happen.

    PAs would make items for the female.

    The male would get NOTHING or the items would be inferior to what's in the female bundle. People would complain because the difference would be obvious.

    PAs already choose what they want to make for a figure, selecting between two at the same time.... yeah, you're asking for trouble ;)

    Promoting one figure properly, ensuring the bundles get enough content is hard enough; two figures would really be impossible . . .


    Two figures is what's already been happening, simply separated by months or years. The male figure getting items inferior to what's available for the equivalent female has also been happening for years -- it got better with Genesis, but we never got anything close to parity. Now that we're back to a gender split and we've seen three base figures in three months? "Promoting one figure properly" has been significantly redefined.

    As for PAs refusing to provision the male figure, that's why I suggested DAZ commission what's needed. Each PA will usually act in what that PA considers his/her own best interest -- hopefully DAZ realizes that providing the customers with what we've been saying we want for years will make them more money.

  • Dino GrampsDino Gramps Posts: 0
    edited August 2013

    I imagine it'll go like this:

    - Aiko 6
    - Stephanie 6
    - She-Freak 6
    - M6
    - Hiro 6
    - Freak 6
    - David 6
    - Victoria 7

    Just my gut feeling.

    My gut feeling:
    - Aiko 6
    - Stephanie 6
    - Victoria 7 - Introducing the amazing Genesis 3V with a mesh that will only work as V7 (no morphs) but the bends look so realistic and the clothes fit perfectly!
    - Stephanie 7 (Genesis 3S)
    - Michael 5.5 - (Using Genesis 2 Androgynous. Males aren't special enough to keep the females from progressing.)
    - Victoria 8 - Introducing Genesis 4F which uses AI to decide for you what morphs and clothing options are best for you based on your cell phone and email history along with your medical records. It automatically downloads them and charges your credit card also sending a 10% donation to Citizens United Against Humans.

    Apologies in advance to anyone who does not find my cynicism humorous. It's been a horrible week and even worse day, but I smiled when I thought of this.

    Post edited by Dino Gramps on
  • LeanaLeana Posts: 727
    edited December 1969

    I've no doubt that having the opposite gender figure immediately available will boost the sales of both Aiko6 and Hiro6
    Except that people would have to shell out money for 2 figures at the same time, which might be difficult for a lot of people. With separated releases at least the wallet can recover a bit between the two...

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 1,956
    edited December 1969

    Leana said:
    I've no doubt that having the opposite gender figure immediately available will boost the sales of both Aiko6 and Hiro6
    Except that people would have to shell out money for 2 figures at the same time, which might be difficult for a lot of people. With separated releases at least the wallet can recover a bit between the two...

    Exactly. That between getting people to actually commission (remember, PAs still get to choose what to support), a dual release is a very bad idea all the way around.

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