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Posted: 23 August 2013 05:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Aiko and Hiro are the number one reason I wish G2F and G2M had been released together and that there iconic base expansion characters also be released together as a match set.  As for how it would affect sales I would rather buy a pro bundle that included both figures and a variety of textures than a gender specific bundle with a load of clothing I may not like.

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Posted: 24 August 2013 03:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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I’ve no doubt that having the opposite gender figure immediately available will boost the sales of both Aiko6 and Hiro6

Except that people would have to shell out money for 2 figures at the same time, which might be difficult for a lot of people. With separated releases at least the wallet can recover a bit between the two…

Didn’t seem to hurt Sadie and Sam, Jasmin and Jason, or the Young Teens bundles any. Oh, wait, forgot. That was when there was only one figure that could handle both male and female morphs. cheese

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Posted: 24 August 2013 03:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Male-M3dia - 23 August 2013 03:21 PM

Exactly. That between getting people to actually commission (remember, PAs still get to choose what to support), a dual release is a very bad idea all the way around.

Like you said, PAs choose what they want to support, but then they can only choose to support something that’s already there. I’m sure there are PAs who would choose to make male-centric morphs and items over female ones (although they may be in the minority) if there was a male figure. But there isn’t one released yet. So in effect, there really is no choice except to work with what’s there (at least with regard to current Generation 6). rolleyes

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Posted: 24 August 2013 05:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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jestmart - 23 August 2013 05:13 PM

Aiko and Hiro are the number one reason I wish G2F and G2M had been released together and that there iconic base expansion characters also be released together as a match set.  As for how it would affect sales I would rather buy a pro bundle that included both figures and a variety of textures than a gender specific bundle with a load of clothing I may not like.


I absolutely agree. In fact, we are able to choose which figure we want to put money on. Nobody can “FORCE” us to buy stuff for a figure we won’t use. Personally, I rather buy G2F clothes/hair that I can use on male figures. If it wasn’t an “ANDROGENOUS MORPH” in G2F, I would probably never have bought her. I used the “androgenous” morph to make male characters and I’m very happy with them. The expressions in G2F are very well done and very realistic, I think they are much better than the Genesis expressions. So I’m happy with my G2F. But for me, it’s a disaster that there is no UV map for M4/M5 to apply textures on the androgenous morph of G2F downer. The Product (G2F) had become SO MUCH VERSATILE if we could be able to choose textures from M4/M5/V4/V5/Genesis LOL.

I didn’t buy the Girl 6 and probably won’t buy her even if there is 30 000 outfits for her, because I’m not interested. So I keep my money. And that’s good in fact. I have to SPARE wink. DAZ would ruin me if there was a lot of male stuff. When the males come out, I’m ready to buy them and pretty almost anything stuff for them. So I really don’t think anyone can FORCE us to buy blank stare. I won’t buy Aiko 6/Stephanie 6 (unless she has a lot of interesting clothes and hair that I can use on males). I didn’t buy Dawn and won’t buy her, even it there is 100 000 outfits on Renderosity, because I’m not interested.

All I mentioned is of course subjective and anyone has his/her favorite. Don’t misunderstand me. I don’t say DAZ only should release male stuff cool cheese cool grin someone is breaking his computer screen cool grin. I’m saying that it would be great to have both the male and female version included in the same figure, like Genesis. I still think that Genesis is the BEST and MOST VERSATILE figure ever made. And if DAZ cannot release both male and female at the same time, why not release the male first next year smile ?....just to see if it sells?..... or is it a bad idea sick?

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Posted: 24 August 2013 06:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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I’m still curious as to Genesis 2 Male’s ETA. Daz remain extremely tight-lipped regarding their plans for Genesis 2 and other than a very brief mention there would be a gender split, we’ve heard nothing. Pushing aside my incredibly burning desire to hear a ‘Kids 6’ announcement from Daz (even paying it lip service would help!), I would have at least expected them to announce what their plans were so the savvy customers can prepare their wallets in advance.

I get the feeling that there’s a massive NDA blanketing any and all information regarding Genesis 2’s future. Possibly to keep information out of competitor’s hands, or possibly so that the surprise announcement of it’s release will somehow garner more sales if it catches us off-guard. Sadly, very few Daz staff read the forums, so my protestations will likely fall on deaf ears along with my wish to see a proper Kids release.

In the mean time I’ve still got Michael 5 and Kids 4. I just wish there was more information to go on regarding future releases, compatibility issues (or not) and whether or not we’ll see a return of any of the big name figures we’re all used to, such as David 6. Funny how I can’t name a single major ‘named’ morph for the Kids though. There are named morphs for sure, but there’s never really been any to the scale of David, Stephanie, Victoria or Michael with fanfare-releases and lots of clothes and goodies released alongside them. I’d personally sell a kidney to see such a thing…

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Posted: 24 August 2013 08:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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I imagine it’ll go like this:

- Aiko 6
- Stephanie 6
- She-Freak 6
- M6
- Hiro 6
- Freak 6
- David 6
- Victoria 7

Just my gut feeling.

My gut feeling:
- Aiko 6
- Stephanie 6
- Victoria 7 - Introducing the amazing Genesis 3V with a mesh that will only work as V7 (no morphs) but the bends look so realistic and the clothes fit perfectly!
- Stephanie 7 (Genesis 3S)
- Michael 5.5 - (Using Genesis 2 Androgynous. Males aren’t special enough to keep the females from progressing.)
- Victoria 8 - Introducing Genesis 4F which uses AI to decide for you what morphs and clothing options are best for you based on your cell phone and email history along with your medical records. It automatically downloads them and charges your credit card also sending a 10% donation to Citizens United Against Humans.

Apologies in advance to anyone who does not find my cynicism humorous. It’s been a horrible week and even worse day, but I smiled when I thought of this.

I don’t know about anyone else, but I got a good chuckle out of your humor smile

I can see us just sitting here nearing the end of 2015 and still wondering when Michael 6 is going to be released. ^_^


But yeah, highly unlikely.  Even in spite of the all-female show right now, I’m sure it’ll be released long before then.

In the meanwhile, I’ve saved a lot of money over the past month or so.  Unfortunately, it’s all gone to paying bills, rather than splurging on warrior outfits for Michael and his different morphs.

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Posted: 24 August 2013 08:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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I admit though, after seeing the versatility of g6 expressions, and detail in the figure, I’m hankering now for m6. =-)

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Posted: 24 August 2013 01:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Male-M3dia - 23 August 2013 03:21 PM

Exactly. That between getting people to actually commission (remember, PAs still get to choose what to support), a dual release is a very bad idea all the way around.

Like you said, PAs choose what they want to support, but then they can only choose to support something that’s already there. I’m sure there are PAs who would choose to make male-centric morphs and items over female ones (although they may be in the minority) if there was a male figure. But there isn’t one released yet. So in effect, there really is no choice except to work with what’s there (at least with regard to current Generation 6). rolleyes

The point is if you have a product to sell, you want FULL support, not having people to choose. Some PAs make items for both so separating them gives them time to support both. It makes economic sense as well; you don’t want your PAs or customers to have to choose what they support if they go on sale at the same time. More people are more apt to buy them one at at time at a certain rate than both bundles at a higher rate… you’ll put it out of reach of a chunk of customers. DAZ is in the business to sell you content, so the more they sell the better shape they are.

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Posted: 24 August 2013 09:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Male-M3dia - 23 August 2013 03:21 PM

Exactly. That between getting people to actually commission (remember, PAs still get to choose what to support), a dual release is a very bad idea all the way around.

Like you said, PAs choose what they want to support, but then they can only choose to support something that’s already there. I’m sure there are PAs who would choose to make male-centric morphs and items over female ones (although they may be in the minority) if there was a male figure. But there isn’t one released yet. So in effect, there really is no choice except to work with what’s there (at least with regard to current Generation 6). rolleyes

The point is if you have a product to sell, you want FULL support, not having people to choose. Some PAs make items for both so separating them gives them time to support both. It makes economic sense as well; you don’t want your PAs or customers to have to choose what they support if they go on sale at the same time. More people are more apt to buy them one at at time at a certain rate than both bundles at a higher rate… you’ll put it out of reach of a chunk of customers. DAZ is in the business to sell you content, so the more they sell the better shape they are.

And they can make a KILLING if they only patterned their genders better. I certainly never minded the character-of-the-month deal. Hell, everyone that’s what I always get excited for! smile

But yeah, what gives with the female parade? Victoria has always been before Michael, granted. But Michael ALWAYS was the next in line behind her, not another female. If I was DAZ, I would have released G2M/M6 in July, and saved Gia for this month.

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Posted: 25 August 2013 12:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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I’ve no doubt that having the opposite gender figure immediately available will boost the sales of both Aiko6 and Hiro6

Except that people would have to shell out money for 2 figures at the same time, which might be difficult for a lot of people. With separated releases at least the wallet can recover a bit between the two…

Didn’t seem to hurt Sadie and Sam, Jasmin and Jason, or the Young Teens bundles any. Oh, wait, forgot. That was when there was only one figure that could handle both male and female morphs. cheese

Jasmin and Jason were not released together, the bundle with both has been added after Jason’s release. And yes, as you mentioned, those were shapes for the same figure and not two separate figures.

RCDeschene - 24 August 2013 09:26 PM

Victoria has always been before Michael, granted. But Michael ALWAYS was the next in line behind her, not another female.

Not always, Aiko 4 was released before Michael 4 for example (february 2008 for A4, october 2008 for M4).

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Posted: 25 August 2013 01:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Leana - 25 August 2013 12:50 PM

Not always, Aiko 4 was released before Michael 4 for example (february 2008 for A4, october 2008 for M4).

Let us hope we don’t have to wait 8 months from G2F’s or any of her characters releases lol It was a long wait for M4 confused

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Posted: 25 August 2013 01:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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I admit, I do think M6 or at least genesis male base should’ve come out before girl 6.

I hope M6 comes out in September or October. I know I will buy the pro bundle.

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Posted: 26 August 2013 12:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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SereneNight - 25 August 2013 01:39 PM

I admit, I do think M6 or at least genesis male base should’ve come out before girl 6.

I hope M6 comes out in September or October. I know I will buy the pro bundle.

Technically they can still release she-freak 6 prior to M6 :S

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Posted: 26 August 2013 02:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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I admit, I do think M6 or at least genesis male base should’ve come out before girl 6.

I hope M6 comes out in September or October. I know I will buy the pro bundle.

Technically they can still release she-freak 6 prior to M6 :S

Didn’t they already?  hmmm

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Posted: 26 August 2013 06:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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I admit, I do think M6 or at least genesis male base should’ve come out before girl 6.

I hope M6 comes out in September or October. I know I will buy the pro bundle.

Technically they can still release she-freak 6 prior to M6 :S

Didn’t they already?  hmmm

Exactly.

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