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Posted: 22 June 2012 09:05 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I have been sorting out one of my PC’s and logged onto the Bug reporting site. and found to my amazment that somebody had made an entry against one of my bug reports acknowledging if I’m correct, that it is a bug. Dated yesterday!!! Ooo!

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Posted: 22 June 2012 12:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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RedSquare - 22 June 2012 09:05 AM

I have been sorting out one of my PC’s and logged onto the Bug reporting site. and found to my amazment that somebody had made an entry against one of my bug reports acknowledging if I’m correct, that it is a bug. Dated yesterday!!! Ooo!

The QA team is simply making some adjustments to bugs, changing from confirmed to acknowledged. Don’t read any more into what you are seeing. Sorry.

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Posted: 22 June 2012 08:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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DAZ_bfurner - 22 June 2012 12:27 PM
RedSquare - 22 June 2012 09:05 AM

I have been sorting out one of my PC’s and logged onto the Bug reporting site. and found to my amazment that somebody had made an entry against one of my bug reports acknowledging if I’m correct, that it is a bug. Dated yesterday!!! Ooo!

The QA team is simply making some adjustments to bugs, changing from confirmed to acknowledged. Don’t read any more into what you are seeing. Sorry.

What does DAZ believe is the difference between “confirmed” and “acknowledged?

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Posted: 22 June 2012 11:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I am still awaiting what the plans are for Hexagon. DAZ_bfurner put forward:-

I hope in the next several weeks I’ll be able to give you more input on what the plans are for Hexagon. I don’t think you all will be disappointed.

That statement made here:- http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=179633&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10
It is now over 6 months later, still nothing!!

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Posted: 25 June 2012 05:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Steve athome - 22 June 2012 11:25 PM

I am still awaiting what the plans are for Hexagon. DAZ_bfurner put forward:-

I hope in the next several weeks I’ll be able to give you more input on what the plans are for Hexagon. I don’t think you all will be disappointed.

That statement made here:- http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=179633&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10
It is now over 6 months later, still nothing!!

Even hints of future correspondence are fair game, I think. All user are looking to software developers for continued development to software for the sake of new tools as well as a sure future of those tools that they are using everyday.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 10:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Sorry for any confusion.

It has been procedure to mark feature requests as well as bugs we have been able to replicate as confirmed. It was determined that this makes it more difficult to separate the bugs from the feature requests when it comes time to prioritize bugs for the developers to fix.

Feature requests are usually looked at when we are about to start a new development cycle and the Project Manager sits down with the developers to discuss new features for the next version of the software. Placing them as acknowledged gets them out of the way, until they are needed and nicely consolidates them for this discussion.

So just because your feature request got moved, that does not mean there will be any work done on them at this time and shouldn’t be cause for speculation. smile

Again, sorry for the confusion.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 02:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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DAZ_Spooky - 25 June 2012 10:40 AM

Feature requests are usually looked at when we are about to start a new development cycle and the Project Manager sits down with the developers to discuss new features for the next version of the software. Placing them as acknowledged gets them out of the way, until they are needed and nicely consolidates them for this discussion.

It was stated above by DAZ_bfurner

“The QA team is simply making some adjustments to bugs, changing from confirmed to acknowledged.”

Putting the 2 statement above together, means confirmed bugs are now being classified as feature requests.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 02:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Steve athome - 25 June 2012 02:49 PM
DAZ_Spooky - 25 June 2012 10:40 AM

Feature requests are usually looked at when we are about to start a new development cycle and the Project Manager sits down with the developers to discuss new features for the next version of the software. Placing them as acknowledged gets them out of the way, until they are needed and nicely consolidates them for this discussion.

It was stated above by DAZ_bfurner

“The QA team is simply making some adjustments to bugs, changing from confirmed to acknowledged.”

Putting the 2 statement above together, means confirmed bugs are now being classified as feature requests.

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Other way around. Confirmed bugs are being separated from Feature requests.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 03:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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BTLProductions - 25 June 2012 02:58 PM

Other way around. Confirmed bugs are being separated from Feature requests.

They are being separated yes, but it still shows bugs as now being treated as feature requests:-

“bugs, changing from confirmed to acknowledged”

“Feature requests…...........Placing them as acknowledged gets them out of the way”


Normally to get “bugs out of the way” you would fix them, not simply re-classify them.


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Posted: 25 June 2012 03:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Steve athome - 25 June 2012 03:10 PM
BTLProductions - 25 June 2012 02:58 PM

Other way around. Confirmed bugs are being separated from Feature requests.

They are being separated yes, but it still shows bugs as now being treated as feature requests:-

“bugs, changing from confirmed to acknowledged”

“Feature requests…...........Placing them as acknowledged gets them out of the way”


Normally to get “bugs out of the way” you would fix them, not simply re-classify them.


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Bugs are not being changed to acknowledged, Feature Requests were moved to Acknowledged. Bugs that can be replicated, are confirmed, and prioritized for fixes. Bugs that can not be replicated are placed in feedback so we can get more information on them.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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DAZ_Spooky - 25 June 2012 03:26 PM

Bugs are not being changed to acknowledged,

So you are stating DAZ_bfurner is incorrect

DAZ_bfurner - 22 June 2012 12:27 PM

The QA team is simply making some adjustments to bugs, changing from confirmed to acknowledged.

Sound like all the confusion you mention is actually within the DAZ staff.

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Posted: 25 June 2012 10:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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DaRkWyNdE - 22 June 2012 08:42 PM

What does DAZ believe is the difference between “confirmed” and “acknowledged?

 
Well, “confirmed” means they admit it’s a problem, but hell will freeze over before it gets fixed, while “acknowledged” means they admit it’s a problem, but hell will freeze over before it gets fixed.
 

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Posted: 26 June 2012 06:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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DaRkWyNdE - 22 June 2012 08:42 PM

What does DAZ believe is the difference between “confirmed” and “acknowledged?

 
Well, “confirmed” means they admit it’s a problem, but hell will freeze over before it gets fixed, while “acknowledged” means they admit it’s a problem, but hell will freeze over before it gets fixed.
 

I’ll go along with that. This and the above posts gives me all the answers I need.

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Posted: 06 July 2012 03:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Steve athome - 22 June 2012 11:25 PM

I am still awaiting what the plans are for Hexagon. DAZ_bfurner put forward:-

I hope in the next several weeks I’ll be able to give you more input on what the plans are for Hexagon. I don’t think you all will be disappointed.

That statement made here:- http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=179633&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=10
It is now over 6 months later, still nothing!!


Well…hmmm…let’s see….plans for Hexagon….gee, I can’t imagine what they might….


THEY GAVE IT AWAY FOR FREE !!!! Did you guys miss that??


It has become solely a tool to generate content sales. That’s it. Why would they have even the slightest incentive to invest another penny in costly development of software that is only useful to get people to buy content???  As long as people see a cool package of free software, and it works reasonably well, it’s doing its job. Period.


And do the people who it’s drawing in give a damn if Hexagon has fancy new features it doesn’t already have? For the most part NO, because the market is for people who want to buy premade stuff, drop it in their scenes, and hit RENDER. Some might play with the free modeller, but for the vast majority modelling is WAY too complicated and too deep, when all they want to do is use content and make renders. Which is why Poser and D|S don’t even have modellers built in. And these new users have invested ZERO in the software, which means they could, and would, drop it at a moment’s notice and move on to the latest video game without giving it a second thought.


If people have to spend hundreds of $$ for software, it means they’re somewhat serious and probably intend to use it for a long period, and are probably very hesitant to drop it and move on to some other interest. You’re attracting fairly serious artists or hobbyists or whatever. Not so when you give it away. You’re getting, for the most part, a short term surge in content sales for as long as the buzz lasts. And once that’s over, what do you do? You can’t lower the price any lower on Hexagon (or Bryce, or D/S), so somehow you have to keep new content buyers coming in. And how many new content buyers are you going to attract by hyping the fact that Hexagon 3 now has voxel sculpting and retopology? Most will scratch their heads and say, “yeah, whatever….”


You can argue all day long that it’s going to attract people who really care about new Hex tools and features, but only time will tell. I think the chances are slim to none. And anyone who thinks that the content sales that Hex generates are going to cover development costs to keep developers working on Hex are, IMO, dreaming.


One developer working for a year probably costs something like $100k total (I’m guessing). How many sets of Genesis clothes is that?

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Posted: 06 July 2012 07:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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JoeMamma2000 - 06 July 2012 03:30 AM

THEY GAVE IT AWAY FOR FREE !!!! Did you guys miss that??

I did notice that. I was just hoping that DAZ_bfurner would come forward and actually admit that is what was being hinted at.

I am tired of using DAZ’s alpha/beta software anyway now. None of their software on final release is what I would describe as finished. Far too many bugs and problems.
I have already (months ago) removed Bryce and Carrara, I will now remove Hexagon and use supported software.

 

 

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Posted: 06 July 2012 08:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Well, “confirmed” means they admit it’s a problem, but hell will freeze over before it gets fixed, while “acknowledged” means they admit it’s a problem, but hell will freeze over before it gets fixed.


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