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I want V4 Products not V5 or V6. Planned Obsolescence Has To Stop.
Posted: 04 July 2013 12:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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“Serious” music lovers go and listen to it live. Fashionable music snobs are going back to vinyl because it’s hip. And, as Mr Leong said, small minority and small market.

Most of the recent blockbuster films have been shot digitally and not on film. Anything 3D has to have been done digitally.

You can watch those old movies and TV shows on your iPad because they were converted to digital. In fact there are large segments of the early days of TV that are lost forever because the medium they were recorded on broke down in a very short time.

Silk may be used to make the best clothes but only a small segment of the market is actually spinning the fiber into thread and weaving it by hand. The vast majority is being produced on some very high tech machines. Since my wife is a spinner and weaver I can tell you that a machine can produce much higher and more consistent quality than even the best hand weaver.

Technology always advances. Trying to make it stop because you’re satisfied is kind of like trying to teach a pig to sing - a waste of time and it annoys the pig.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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[quote author=“sjhayes2” date=“1372962945"But please don’t make a statement about all serious music lovers, or all serious 3D artists, or all serious sports fans etc.

I didn’t say ALL serious music lovers.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 12:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Fauvist - 04 July 2013 12:24 PM

The majority of 3D artists, and the majority of DAZ content buyers, don’t use Victoria 6.

Let’s compare support for a figure available for a week against one available for over six years? Seems fair!


There are other major content stores who have not really moved on from V4, so there is plenty of support from content developers.


I’m glad Daz is moving forward.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 12:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Sisca - 04 July 2013 12:38 PM

Technology always advances. Trying to make it stop because you’re satisfied is kind of like trying to teach a pig to sing - a waste of time and it annoys the pig.

I’m not talking about technology advancing or not.  I’m talking about *content* - using conent with new technology.  Some live recording made by Paul Robeson in the 1930s can be played on a radio, tv, in a movie, on a vinyl record, on an 8track tape machine, a cassett recorder, on a Sony Betamax video player, on a laser disc, on a satelite radio station, on a computer, on an eBook reader, on an iPhone, and on your wristwatch.

 

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Posted: 04 July 2013 12:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Fauvist - 04 July 2013 12:24 PM

The majority of 3D artists, and the majority of DAZ content buyers, don’t use Victoria 6.

Let’s compare support for a figure available for a week against one available for over six years? Seems fair!.

Compare it to Genesis then.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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The new figures released last week are a new technology so you were railing against a new technology.

There are always going to be 2 types of content creators. Those that want to produce content to take advantage of the latest and greatest technology and those that want to reach the widest audience. Many times these will overlap. I think you’re going to see a lot of new content for G2F/V6 over the next several weeks because it’s the new shiney and, if you’re trying to make a living at this now is a good time to get your stuff out there since the market isn’t saturated. If you go and look for clothing and narrow it down to G2F there are 18 items available. It’s much more likely I’ll find your item there than in sorting through the 1339 available for V4.

It’s also in the interest of the stores to promote the new technology and content created for it. I’ve got tons of clothes and hair for Genesis and quite a bit for V4/M4. Odds are if I’m trying to put together a character with a specific look I’ve got the stuff to do it so no need for me to spend money. If I want to use that new G2F character in my runtime I have to use autofit and deal with its limitations or I can buy that new outfit that someone just released.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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Sisca - 04 July 2013 12:38 PM

Most of the recent blockbuster films have been shot digitally and not on film. Anything 3D has to have been done digitally

Iron Man, Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four, and the brand new MAN OF STEEL were shot on 35mm film - just like BIRTH OF A NATION was in 1915.  The movie industry uses a digital intermediate.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 12:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Fauvist - 04 July 2013 11:34 AM

*snip*

DAZ’s planned obsolescence has to stop.  Enough is enough.

And you know that V4 is becoming obsolete how?

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Posted: 04 July 2013 01:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Muon Quark - 04 July 2013 12:59 PM
Fauvist - 04 July 2013 11:34 AM

*snip*

DAZ’s planned obsolescence has to stop.  Enough is enough.

And you know that V4 is becoming obsolete how?

The same way I knowV1,  V2 and V3 are becoming obsolete.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 01:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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Fauvist - 04 July 2013 12:24 PM

The majority of 3D artists, and the majority of DAZ content buyers, don’t use Victoria 6.

And earlier you mentioned :

Fauvist - 04 July 2013 12:24 PM

The V6 content that was put on sale today are things I really want

I going to assume you’re talking about the new stuff. 
If so, none of them require V6.
They require Genesis2, which is free. 


I assume Poser users get Genesis 2, and also get it for free, based on what chohole said:

chohole - 04 July 2013 12:26 PM

DAZ 3D made the DSON importer in order for Poser users to be able to use it’s newer figures.

 

 

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Posted: 04 July 2013 01:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Mr Leong - 04 July 2013 01:03 PM
Fauvist - 04 July 2013 12:24 PM

The V6 content that was put on sale today are things I really want

I going to assume you’re talking about the new stuff. 
If so, none of them require V6.
They require Genesis2, which is free.

I wasn’t aware there was a Genesis2 Female without V6 - maybe there is, but I don’t know what it is or what it’s called.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 01:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Fauvist - 04 July 2013 12:48 PM
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Fauvist - 04 July 2013 12:24 PM

The majority of 3D artists, and the majority of DAZ content buyers, don’t use Victoria 6.

Let’s compare support for a figure available for a week against one available for over six years? Seems fair!.

Compare it to Genesis then.

It’s a 2:1 ratio in favour of V4.  What’s your point?

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Posted: 04 July 2013 01:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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It is called Genesis 2 Female, and you cand find her in your product library in the Genesis 2 Female Starter Essentials pack. Just like Genesis it is a free download that is included in daz 4.6

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Posted: 04 July 2013 01:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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V4 is not obsolete. I still own it, still own content for it. Same with M4 and all the previous incarnations of Mike and Vicky. Has any of it disappeared from someone’s Runtime? It’s still in mine.
Yes, DAZ gives DAZ Studio away as an incentive to draw customers to daz.com. This is not some insidious plot, it just makes good sense. DAZ is a business, not a charity.
Now if you are asking for some new products for V4 in addition to the fine new character morphs and body textures for V4 that have seen release over the last several months, such as new outfits, hair and shoes, I would have to nod in agreement; that would be nice indeed.
I don’t think it’s going to happen unless we support the content creators who make V4 content by purchasing their products and encouraging them to make more. Let them know what you like, and what you want to see become available in the future. They do appreciate positive feedback, I’m sure.
The bottom line: they stop making products if they don’t sell.

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Posted: 04 July 2013 01:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Carola O - 04 July 2013 01:11 PM

It is called Genesis 2 Female, and you cand find her in your product library in the Genesis 2 Female Starter Essentials pack. Just like Genesis it is a free download that is included in daz 4.6

I believe (though I’m not a poser user, so I don’t have the product) the Genesis 2 Female Starter Essentials is also available to those who have purchased the DSON converter.

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