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Posted: 20 June 2013 05:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Male-M3dia - 20 June 2013 05:13 AM

Lol, they’re not obsolete, quit overreacting.

To be honest both are going to have their uses. Gen2 will most like be for more gender-specific items as Gen 1 will be for more flexible items. I don’t see giving up my Gen1 stuff as not everything will make it to Gen2 and I can use them both in a scene.

And I’m not going through another year of updating characters, so not many of my store will see a revamping just for M6.

Oh, theyre not obsolete? So i can use all of the genesis evolution morphs with genesis 2? How about the other morph packs for genesis 1?

And Im not “overreacting.” Frankly, what I am is a customer. You know, the guy with the money? I’m more than a little off-put by a vendor coming to tell me to basically shut up.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 05:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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My worry for the split in bases is for things like creature morphs. In Genesis, if I wanted a female troll I could do it. Now I’m worried that for some morphs we’re only going to see a male or female version and not the pair.

Similarly for clothes, aside from the comedy value of putting a dress on the most ridiculous morph you could, it was pretty cool to be able to fit some male clothing on a woman (like armour) and still have it work. It was great for if you wanted a fantasy girl who didn’t have half her skin exposed. I hope they allow for auto-fit between the male and female bases as a way to solve this.

The final big concern I have is if the female base will allow for male UVs. Last year for an RRR challenge I morphed up a female hag with a variety of morphs but the best texture I had for the look was The Immortal (an M4 morph) so I just slapped it on and changed the UV. This kind of versatility is what made Genesis so cool, I hope we don’t lose it. I’m just downloading Gen 2 now so I haven’t had a chance to test this yet.

I’m now really glad that the only gen 5 content I have is V5 and M5, with gen 6 coming so soon afterwards (and with there still being gaps in gen 5) I’m really glad I didn’t invest more money in it. I did however dump a ton of money on Genesis content and now I’m really going to have to think about whether I’ll invest in gen 6 or not. I’ve been broke lately (thanks to that spending) but am in the process of switching jobs and will have a lot more disposable income very soon, I’m just not sure if I’ll be disposing of it on DAZ’s store now.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 05:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Here’s a thought.

If the G1 outfits will fit G2F (no G2M at the moment) with a few ‘minor’ tweaks using Autofit, then how about the vendors offer upgrades from G1 to G2F at a reasonable price for existing customers?

That will go some way to alleviate any suspicion that both the vendors and DAZ are just doing this for the money and no other reason.

However if we find the market flooded with essentially G2F only versions of the same items then we can draw our own conclusions.

As I’ve said before DAZ, don’t just tell us it’s better but show us the improvements. It can’t be that hard can it? 

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Posted: 20 June 2013 05:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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sgreco1970 - 20 June 2013 05:42 AM
Male-M3dia - 20 June 2013 05:13 AM

Lol, they’re not obsolete, quit overreacting.

To be honest both are going to have their uses. Gen2 will most like be for more gender-specific items as Gen 1 will be for more flexible items. I don’t see giving up my Gen1 stuff as not everything will make it to Gen2 and I can use them both in a scene.

And I’m not going through another year of updating characters, so not many of my store will see a revamping just for M6.

Oh, theyre not obsolete? So i can use all of the genesis evolution morphs with genesis 2? How about the other morph packs for genesis 1?

Could you use Gen4 morphs directly on Genesis? No you couldn’t without conversion.

Can you use Evolution morphs with Genesis 2?

Yes and No.

Yes they’ll transfer, but no they won’t look right without a corresponding shape to work with, though the Genesis clone is in Gen2. So some of the morphs could work, but probably not the full body ones as the shaping of the chest area is now different.

Head morphs do cross over very well. Which is probably what most people want out to convert.

And Im not “overreacting.” Frankly, what I am is a customer. You know, the guy with the money? I’m more than a little off-put by a vendor coming to tell me to basically shut up.

Well most times, I see this and months later I see the same person beaming about the product once the smoke clears. Happens all the time. So I figured you may want to head it off at the pass wink. It’s not as dire as you make it.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 05:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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I have spent enough on Gen1 stuff. And now, there is Gen 2 stuff. V6, which does not empress me at all. But, there was a couple of things I did like. Just need Gen 2. But, I can not find just the Gen 2. There are morphs for Gen 2. But, no Gen 2.  Anyone know where the Gen 2 is?

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Witch Storm ~ If you refer to the start of this thread you’ll find info on where Gen2 is

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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WitchStorm - 20 June 2013 05:57 AM

I have spent enough on Gen1 stuff. And now, there is Gen 2 stuff. V6, which does not empress me at all. But, there was a couple of things I did like. Just need Gen 2. But, I can not find just the Gen 2. There are morphs for Gen 2. But, no Gen 2.  Anyone know where the Gen 2 is?

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It’s in your product library. You’ll have to do a search.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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I had it in my DIM without having to search through the Product Library

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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The DAZ studio 4.6 pro download has the Genesis 2 Female Starter essential download.  Check your products Library.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Thanks always learning and Pixel8ted. What about the people that didn’t buy genesis 1. How will they buy Genesis 2 If they can’t find it? They just might Genesis 2, and not Genesis 1.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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FirstBastion - 20 June 2013 06:09 AM

The DAZ studio 4.6 pro download has the Genesis 2 Female Starter essential download.  Check your products Library.

Was it in there all this time, or did they add it, to it just now?

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Genesis 1 comes in the original Genesis starter essentials package, which comes as part of the DS bundle. So if you have DS 4.5 or 4.6 then you have Genesis.

Genesis 2 has it’s own Starter essentials pack.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Well, I’m downloading Genesis 2 as I type, but I’m also pretty annoyed. Because guess what? I spent all sorts of money on all sorts of stuff for the original Genesis too. And I’m not likely to have any more spending money for quite a while, so even if Genesis 2 turns out to be absolutely amazing, I won’t be able to get anything for it. It’s a really good thing the older Genesis and other figures still work just fine. Nothing at all says I *have* to use the absolute newest stuff, after all. I’ll just hang out with my wonderfully versatile Genesis that can morph into anything I want it to, dress it with all the fabulous clothes hanging in its wardrobe, and call it good.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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I just briefly tested her, and i’m not impressed!
Sure, facial expression are a tat better, but not much else.
All your .dsb format dont work on her, only .duf.
She doesn’t have a V4 UV map set, so 90% of my textures doesnt work on her.

Why make a Gen2 so soon? Rather fix the many bugs on Gen1 first.
Sort of a Gen 1,2 like v4.2.
All the bugs from Gen 1, are still on Gen 2.

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Posted: 20 June 2013 06:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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It works fine with C8.5 and Lux:

The HDR/Background was made by HeraldOfFire

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