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Posted: 11 June 2013 05:07 AM   [ Ignore ]
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http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/

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Posted: 11 June 2013 01:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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That’s pretty cool. I just hope it’s innards are as accessible as the old aluminum case. That was a huge selling point for me. It would also be good to know if the graphics systems can be replaced.

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Posted: 11 June 2013 01:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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congratulations on finding your next new love!
hope she is not a bitch who does not play nice with your software, ie Carrara and others
or leaves, costing you alimony

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Posted: 11 June 2013 01:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Like a beautiful girl it matters not what is inside till you tire of her! BUT it looks like everything is right there! You take the cover off and everything is like in a circle.

My only question is am I gunna have to rob a bank or pimp out the sexy WENDY to afford it.

What do you say Wendy. Might have top learn to drive on the CORRECT side of the road

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Posted: 22 June 2013 08:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I can’t wait!  I need to know the price though!  The AMD/ATI FirePro card that matches the specs on Apple’s web site cost $2000.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105004

And there are 2 of these cards in the new Mac Pro! 

I know Apple will be using custom Fire Pro cards so hopefully the price will be cheaper!

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Posted: 22 June 2013 10:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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On the super plus side, is that the design is such a genius improvement that the system should last as long as you want it to. Cool parts just last longer and perform better. On the bad side is the cost will certainly be understandably high. It will really blow me away if they come anywhere near the current Mac Pro price of roughly three grand. But I’m sure that it will be about twice that.
Sure would be neat to have one as a workstation and a couple more as nodes! LOL

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Posted: 22 June 2013 10:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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...and on the opposite end of the spectrum:
http://www.adafruit.com/products/998

Just plain cool!

I love designing and building my own computers which, for some reason, disallows the use of the MacOS. Like they don’t trust us to build a decent box. But Windows works good for me so far. One huge factor that I always design in, amongst many others, is the best air flow possible - so I filter the air on all intakes to keep the innards from accumulating dust - which causes heat and slow stuff down till it dies.

All of that considered… I still want one of those new Mac Pros!

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Posted: 23 June 2013 11:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Dartanbeck - 22 June 2013 10:53 PM

...and on the opposite end of the spectrum:
http://www.adafruit.com/products/998

Just plain cool!

I love designing and building my own computers which, for some reason, disallows the use of the MacOS. Like they don’t trust us to build a decent box. But Windows works good for me so far. One huge factor that I always design in, amongst many others, is the best air flow possible - so I filter the air on all intakes to keep the innards from accumulating dust - which causes heat and slow stuff down till it dies.

All of that considered… I still want one of those new Mac Pros!


I would point out that PC manufacturers such as Sony also build their own custom mother boards and other components to their own specs, which means you can’t “build” a Sony yourself either.

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Posted: 23 June 2013 06:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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evilproducer - 23 June 2013 11:31 AM
Dartanbeck - 22 June 2013 10:53 PM

...and on the opposite end of the spectrum:
http://www.adafruit.com/products/998

Just plain cool!

I love designing and building my own computers which, for some reason, disallows the use of the MacOS. Like they don’t trust us to build a decent box. But Windows works good for me so far. One huge factor that I always design in, amongst many others, is the best air flow possible - so I filter the air on all intakes to keep the innards from accumulating dust - which causes heat and slow stuff down till it dies.

All of that considered… I still want one of those new Mac Pros!


I would point out that PC manufacturers such as Sony also build their own custom mother boards and other components to their own specs, which means you can’t “build” a Sony yourself either.

You speak the truth, young Padawon. But you are not a Jedi yet!

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Posted: 23 June 2013 08:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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One thing I want to say is MY NEW MACPRO has 13 cooling fans inside it! THIRTEEN!! That is 10 plus 3! it weighs 56 pounds! A 9 inch coffee cans thats twice as fast with one fan… BRING IT ON!

I do not want to re-fan the embers of PC vs mac wars BUT COME on MAC has been and always will be the top innovator as far as it comes to production COOL “F” ing great SHEET! Even if it did take em 5 years I never saw PC remake anything in 15 years
But know that ALL Computers are made in China by political prisoners ! I am Proud to be an amerikan who uses APPLE

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Posted: 23 June 2013 09:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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RichardChaos - 23 June 2013 08:21 PM

One thing I want to say is MY NEW MACPRO has 13 cooling fans inside it! THIRTEEN!! That is 10 plus 3! it weighs 56 pounds! A 9 inch coffee cans thats twice as fast with one fan… BRING IT ON!

I do not want to re-fan the embers of PC vs mac wars BUT COME on MAC has been and always will be the top innovator as far as it comes to production COOL “F” ing great SHEET! Even if it did take em 5 years I never saw PC remake anything in 15 years
But know that ALL Computers are made in China by political prisoners ! I am Proud to be an amerikan who uses APPLE

I was thinking of buying a $1000 Nvidia Titan but it looks like I am going to be getting the Mac Pro instead. 

Only thing is along with DAZ I also use Blender and love the Cycles unbiased rendering engine and it primarily uses Nvidia’s CUDA to assist the CPU but looks like AMD might actually be getting their act together when it comes to OpenCL so looks like Nvidia is going to be getting some competition. 

So it looks like the FirePros in the new Mac Pro will eventually be supported for Cycles rendering in Blender.

So it is perfect timing!

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Posted: 23 June 2013 10:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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RichardChaos - 23 June 2013 08:21 PM

One thing I want to say is MY NEW MACPRO has 13 cooling fans inside it! THIRTEEN!! That is 10 plus 3! it weighs 56 pounds! A 9 inch coffee cans thats twice as fast with one fan… BRING IT ON!

I do not want to re-fan the embers of PC vs mac wars BUT COME on MAC has been and always will be the top innovator as far as it comes to production COOL “F” ing great SHEET! Even if it did take em 5 years I never saw PC remake anything in 15 years
But know that ALL Computers are made in China by political prisoners ! I am Proud to be an amerikan who uses APPLE

Ahhh… the thing of beauty in your link has One fan. Which is thirteen minus fifteen plus two. One incredibly quite freaking fan.
I would love to own the one you have as well.

CD, where’s you find a Titan for a grand?

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Posted: 25 June 2013 10:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Dartanbeck - 23 June 2013 10:38 PM
RichardChaos - 23 June 2013 08:21 PM

One thing I want to say is MY NEW MACPRO has 13 cooling fans inside it! THIRTEEN!! That is 10 plus 3! it weighs 56 pounds! A 9 inch coffee cans thats twice as fast with one fan… BRING IT ON!

I do not want to re-fan the embers of PC vs mac wars BUT COME on MAC has been and always will be the top innovator as far as it comes to production COOL “F” ing great SHEET! Even if it did take em 5 years I never saw PC remake anything in 15 years
But know that ALL Computers are made in China by political prisoners ! I am Proud to be an amerikan who uses APPLE

Ahhh… the thing of beauty in your link has One fan. Which is thirteen minus fifteen plus two. One incredibly quite freaking fan.
I would love to own the one you have as well.

CD, where’s you find a Titan for a grand?

Dartanbeck, isn’t that the going price?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=936377&Q=&is=REG&A=details

It looks like the Nvidia GTX 780 at $649 is getting some good reviews too! 

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/156588-nvidias-gtx-780-titan-like-performance-without-the-1000-price-tag

But I don’t want to get too excited about Nvidia GPUs since it looks like I am going to be getting 2 FirePros!  LOL!  The TITAN is not even Nvidia’s pro like of GPUs, i.e. Nvidia Quadros.

 

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Posted: 25 June 2013 11:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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My mistake - I was confusing “Titan” with an nVidia computer I saw a while back.

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Posted: 28 June 2013 06:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Dartanbeck - 25 June 2013 11:16 PM

My mistake - I was confusing “Titan” with an nVidia computer I saw a while back.

I found this article interesting!  Looks like AMD might be using the Mac Pro to get serious and to try to get back into the game!

http://vr-zone.com/articles/why-amd-firepro-still-cannot-compete-against-nvidia-quadro-old-or-new/17074.html

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Posted: 28 June 2013 07:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Carrara doesn’t see a whole lot of benefit in great video cards though. My workstation uses a Fermi based (but not Quadro) vs my laptop’s GT260 stand-alone (not built into the MB) and the OpenGL performance is not that different. Of course other apps that you have may say something else, altogether, but that’s my biggest reason for not going for a high-end card when I built this workstation. It relies fully on its eight core processor for rendering - and the Fermi does a great (smooth and responsive) job in my working view.

I am still wondering if I would notice a change with a Quadro. And if that change would be significant enough to be worth the extra coin.

The change from dual core to eight core processors, on the other hand, was enormous! I got the lower end AMD FX 8 Zambezi, and at the same time DAZ_Spooky got the high end chip from the same line. I paired mine with a Military Spec Motherboard capable of using 32 GB RAM, and I began with 16GB High performance RAM with nice, aggressive heat sinks.

The plan is to continue working with this one and possibly upgrade the RAM to 32. Then in another year or so, build another, which will have the main responsibility of being a render node for this one. The dual core machine has become the browser for the internet and runs my Music Composing software. But this workstation weighed in at less than a grand, including the killer case with extra fans, Windows 7 and my Sony Movie HD Platinum suite. So I could build two more of these and still come in at less cost than the current Mac Pro server-class tower, but have a total of 24 core each running at over 3GHz!

My other thought was to build my next one with a much higher budget - and use that new one as my workstation and my current one would become the render node. In that plan, I would be building more for the future - in the hopes of gaining GPU assistance for rendering with Carrara - as a server-class tower with two of the server-class, eight core chips and plenty of RAM to feed them. My buddy Garstor built one of those. Again… for what I do, the cost-saving desktop solution I’ve built is beautifully powerful for my animations rendering. So the first plan is nice in that I would continue to achieve amazing bang for very few bucks. By the time I have three in total, I could just stop there - as that will really crank out my clips. As technology grows and I find myself wanting to build anew, these would still be invaluable for rendering.

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