ISO: Alien Starship Bridge

MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
edited May 2013 in The Commons

I am aware of the freebie Antares Bridge and the various Star Fleet looking bridges on Content Paradise.
I need something to be used by an alien race.

Any suggestions?


-MJ

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  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 1,213
    edited December 1969

    It really depends on the look you are trying to achieve.

    Sector 15 is a great set. http://www.daz3d.com/sector-15

    Commander: http://www.daz3d.com/commander

    Stonemason's store has great options for kitbashing: http://www.daz3d.com/stonemason

    You might be able to kitbash something from Davorama's store: http://www.daz3d.com/davorama-1?limit=60

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited December 1969

    TimG said:

    You might be able to kitbash something from Davorama's store: http://www.daz3d.com/davorama-1?limit=60

    Actually, Davo's Z-mech from the-site-that-shall-not-be-linked has a very inhuman feel to it. Unfortunately, the one actual control panel looks very human.

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  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited May 2013
  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited May 2013

    Sorry to be so cryptic. The TOS DOESN'T say that I can't name the site, just that I can't link to it. Just trying to be humorous.

    Its Renderotica. If you have problems with porn or BDSM, don't go there. If you don't care for it, but are willing to put up with it for the sake of some detailed sci-fi models, check it out.

    Between Daz, Renderotica and this site:

    http://www.powerfusion3d.com/

    this is pretty much everything from Davo that is still available. MOST of his stuff that isn't available has been replaced by something better anyway.

    If you throw the center object in my picture above together with some consoles from the SFCS equipment pack http://www.powerfusion3d.com/S.F.C.S.-Equip.-Pack-1.html
    it would make a good station for a centauroid alien.

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  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited May 2013

    Have you considered holographic interfaces?

    http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=70338

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  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
    edited May 2013

    What do you guys think about the L1 Interior on Rendo? The bridge is actually for a "Flying Saucer" type ship and i like the circular-ness of the room. Do you think that works ok for an "alien" bridge? I would just add a Command Chair and i think i would add a large view screen to cover up the windows.

    -MJ

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  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited December 1969

    Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but to me, that looks exactly like what I thought you were trying to avoid.

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited December 1969

    pwiecek said:
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but to me, that looks exactly like what I thought you were trying to avoid.

    I concur. That's the Jupiter2 type.

  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
    edited December 1969

    Well the ship is a Flying Saucer. Im trying to imagine what a bridge would look like for that type of ship for an alien species.
    What i like about it, is it doesnt have the typical bridge props. For example, that Gyro-thingie in the middle of the ship. I kinda see that as some of type of navigational control instead of the typical "stations" seen in most bridges.

    I went to look at Mars Attacks and from the control room there, it has a similar kinda look to it. Of course i would add more alien looking props to it, but i thought this might be a good start?

    I also noticed on the gallery pics for that ship, there are a number of alien renders. Not a single Lost In Space render. Which to me, added to fact that this kinda works as an alien ship and not necessarily a Human UFO.

    I take it you disagree?


    -MJ

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited May 2013

    I look at the astrogator and I think of 2 things. Lost in Space (of course) and Forbidden Planet. When I think 'Alien Looking' I think of more organic things. Maybe that's a prejudice or maybe its the only way I can think of to differentiate them from something that could develop from human technology.

    Here are some ships that try to convey alien technology and my thoughts on them:

    Farscape Moya: Very organic looking. Asymmetric corridors and doors. Large, flat, uncluttered floors ruin the effect a little.
    Farscape Talyn: Moya's offspring, much less organic and more manufactured.

    Next Generation/DS 9 Klingon ships: Cramped, gritty & uncomfortable, but they look manufactured
    Romulan & Andorian ships could just as well be future versions of present technology

    Battlestar Galactica Cylon Basestar (Modern): Very minimalist but manufactured, even though the show's characters claim they're organic.

    Stargate Movie & SG-1: They went for an Egyptian/Eric Von Danekin Chariots of the Gods look for this
    Stargate Pegasus: I think they tried to make the Egyptian stuff from SG-1 look futuristic. They used a lot of triangles rather than rectangles.
    Stargate Pegasus Hive: Back to the organic look.

    The Day the Earth Stood Still (Original): Very minimalist, but still could be a futuristic outgrowth of present human technology. When Michael Rennie uses it, it gives a distinct impression of verbal or psychic control.

    The Puppeteers (from Larry Niven's books) are described as having technology that looks 'melted' due to their aversion to sharp edges. I think the Z-mech stuff above fits this description.

    In the end, I guess it came down to what I thought YOU meant by alien.

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  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
    edited December 1969

    Got you!

    When i think of alien, i tend to think of "Different but Same". Meaning they would still need the same things functionally, but how they use or implement that need "should" be different. Thats why when i saw that "Astrogator" (which i have no idea what this was on Lost In Space), I said, "Hmmmmm maybe this can be their navigational and/or weapons control".

    I felt overall, it looks like a flying saucer kinda bridge and the only thing that was missing was the need of whomever was "running" the ship a place to bark orders "from"... hence the added Command Chair idea.

    But overall, I felt the interior looked "different" than a typical "Star Fleet" kinda bridge, and with some added alien-looking props, this would make for a decent UFO bridge.


    -MJ

  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited December 1969

    Here is a snapshot of the thumbnails for an old (2003) set of props called Slave 0. They're pretty rough, but they scream "alien" to me.

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  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited May 2013

    MJ007 said:
    Well the ship is a Flying Saucer. Im trying to imagine what a bridge would look like for that type of ship for an alien species.
    What i like about it, is it doesnt have the typical bridge props. For example, that Gyro-thingie in the middle of the ship. I kinda see that as some of type of navigational control instead of the typical "stations" seen in most bridges.

    I went to look at Mars Attacks and from the control room there, it has a similar kinda look to it. Of course i would add more alien looking props to it, but i thought this might be a good start?

    I also noticed on the gallery pics for that ship, there are a number of alien renders. Not a single Lost In Space render. Which to me, added to fact that this kinda works as an alien ship and not necessarily a Human UFO.

    I take it you disagree?


    -MJ

    Well, as a "Lost in Space" fan, yeah. I downloaded that and it is what it is.
    Certainly one can kitbash and make something else but usually it's a lot less work just to make something else.
    As to the lack of published fanart ... that should be screaming I would think. Be careful what you do with their stuff.

    There's certainly nothing 'unique' to have a cylinder table stand with a domed top ...
    Same goes for a basic cylinder ufo ...
    btw - if you haven't bought yet, unless the .lwo turns out better [haven't checked that yet] I don't think you'll be happy with the holes on the top. I'm not.

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  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
    edited December 1969

    For me, I like to start with a set as my base, and then build on top of that. To me, thats much easier than building a complete base from scratch.

    Well, for my story, you will NEVER see the exterior of THIS ship. I am using a completely different ship for the exterior. So, I dont think most people will even "catch" the interior being from this ship especially with the alien props I plan to add to the interior.


    Thats interesting with the damaged hull. The product description doesnt mention this and none of the Gallery images show this either.


    -MJ

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited December 1969

    MJ007 said:
    For me, I like to start with a set as my base, and then build on top of that. To me, thats much easier than building a complete base from scratch.

    Well, for my story, you will NEVER see the exterior of THIS ship. I am using a completely different ship for the exterior. So, I dont think most people will even "catch" the interior being from this ship especially with the alien props I plan to add to the interior.


    Thats interesting with the damaged hull. The product description doesnt mention this and none of the Gallery images show this either.


    -MJ

    No they don't mention it. Rendered in D/S4.5. Both .cr files do this.

    Sounds interesting! Have fun putting it all together ;-)

  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
    edited May 2013

    No they don't mention it. Rendered in D/S4.5. Both .cr files do this.

    Sounds interesting! Have fun putting it all together ;-)


    But none of the images in the product's gallery show this. Think it can be DS4 issue?

    EDIT: I take that back! I do see the damage hulls in the product gallery renders. Again, good thing i dont need the exterior.

    -MJ

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  • pwiecekpwiecek Posts: 698
    edited December 1969

    Possibly an issue with the normals.

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited May 2013

    Probably, but for $ hmm, ... anyway fixing anything in Hexie means also redoing the uvmaps so it's not on the high priority list.

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  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
    edited December 1969

    Probably, but for $ hmm, ... anyway fixing anything in Hexie means also redoing the uvmaps so it's not on the high priority list.

    You're prolly right. I think i need to consider some other interiors. So in case there are some others out there, please advise.


    -MJ

  • PorsimoPorsimo Posts: 178
    edited December 1969

    I've seen this before few times and I suspect it's not an issue with normals but those black faces may actually be quads (even though they look like triangles). DS doesn't like faces where neighboring edges are in 180° or greater angle towards each others and shows them black. Poser is much more forgiving, so it's mostly a DS issue.
    I don't know about Hexagon, but I've managed to fix them in Wings3D without messing the UV maps by triangulating the faces causing trouble. In Wings3D adding, removing or moving vertices will break the UVs, but in many cases you can quite safely add or remove edges. Just don't forget to make a backup first!

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited December 1969

    Sneeze and Hexie loses the uvmap ;-)

  • TheCastellanTheCastellan Posts: 511
    edited May 2013

    If anyone wants to make a scratch/custom made one, I am an amateur UFOlogist and have done a lot of research into the vessels that ET being have traveled in and here's some suggestions to make it a bit more accurate.

    1: Do not make it cluttered with machinery, the aliens, the particular species or two I looked at in my research tend to go for this mentality: Less is more.

    2: Little to no manual controls...a few touch screens at most. From what I have researched, the vessels were more thought controlled via telepathic brain waves and so on, possibly through an interface device on or near the head of the occupants.

    3: The interior walls was sort of self illuminated, with colors of various shades and hues swirling and blending subtly into each other. And the colors intensified when touched.

    4: Some of the vessels were filled with a liquid, possibly a nutrient fluid for the aliens, and fed on via absorbsion through the skin.

    5: subdued lighting.


    Hope this helps.

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  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited December 1969

    If anyone wants to make a scratch/custom made one, I am an amateur UFOlogist and have done a lot of research into the vessels that ET being have traveled in and here's some suggestions to make it a bit more accurate.

    1: Do not make it cluttered with machinery, the aliens, the particular species or two I looked at in my research tend to go for this mentality: Less is more.

    2: Little to no manual controls...a few touch screens at most. From what I have researched, the vessels were more thought controlled via telepathic brain waves and so on, possibly through an interface device on or near the head of the occupants.

    3: The interior walls was sort of self illuminated, with colors of various shades and hues swirling and blending subtly into each other. And the colors intensified when touched.

    4: Some of the vessels were filled with a liquid, possibly a nutrient fluid for the aliens, and fed on via absorbsion through the skin.

    5: subdued lighting.


    Hope this helps.

    Awesome. Yes that helps explain something.

    Also could fly off in any direction without the need to turn around first.

  • TheCastellanTheCastellan Posts: 511
    edited December 1969

    If anyone wants to make a scratch/custom made one, I am an amateur UFOlogist and have done a lot of research into the vessels that ET being have traveled in and here's some suggestions to make it a bit more accurate.

    1: Do not make it cluttered with machinery, the aliens, the particular species or two I looked at in my research tend to go for this mentality: Less is more.

    2: Little to no manual controls...a few touch screens at most. From what I have researched, the vessels were more thought controlled via telepathic brain waves and so on, possibly through an interface device on or near the head of the occupants.

    3: The interior walls was sort of self illuminated, with colors of various shades and hues swirling and blending subtly into each other. And the colors intensified when touched.

    4: Some of the vessels were filled with a liquid, possibly a nutrient fluid for the aliens, and fed on via absorbsion through the skin.

    5: subdued lighting.


    Hope this helps.

    Awesome. Yes that helps explain something.

    Also could fly off in any direction without the need to turn around first.


    And at very fast speeds. I gotta find an awesome video taken in Mexico of an amazing sighting.....20 or so ships, in 2 different formations, and each of them going in what I can only describe as 'dancing' with grace, spinning and rotating, while moving to the other formations and trading places. Mexico is a lot more open to the UFO topic and take it seriously, and have news programs dedicated to it, not like here in America where the mainstream media ridicules and laughs at it or gives it a quick tidbit, to cleverly follow it with reports staring a few tweeners on how to make a hoax, stating to be skeptical of the entire topic. They did that with Aldren and Mitchell when the came forward and talked about their experiences.

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited December 1969

    If anyone wants to make a scratch/custom made one, I am an amateur UFOlogist and have done a lot of research into the vessels that ET being have traveled in and here's some suggestions to make it a bit more accurate.

    1: Do not make it cluttered with machinery, the aliens, the particular species or two I looked at in my research tend to go for this mentality: Less is more.

    2: Little to no manual controls...a few touch screens at most. From what I have researched, the vessels were more thought controlled via telepathic brain waves and so on, possibly through an interface device on or near the head of the occupants.

    3: The interior walls was sort of self illuminated, with colors of various shades and hues swirling and blending subtly into each other. And the colors intensified when touched.

    4: Some of the vessels were filled with a liquid, possibly a nutrient fluid for the aliens, and fed on via absorbsion through the skin.

    5: subdued lighting.


    Hope this helps.

    Awesome. Yes that helps explain something.

    Also could fly off in any direction without the need to turn around first.


    And at very fast speeds. I gotta find an awesome video taken in Mexico of an amazing sighting.....20 or so ships, in 2 different formations, and each of them going in what I can only describe as 'dancing' with grace, spinning and rotating, while moving to the other formations and trading places. Mexico is a lot more open to the UFO topic and take it seriously, and have news programs dedicated to it, not like here in America where the mainstream media ridicules and laughs at it or gives it a quick tidbit, to cleverly follow it with reports staring a few tweeners on how to make a hoax, stating to be skeptical of the entire topic. They did that with Aldren and Mitchell when the came forward and talked about their experiences.

    Peru is another country 'of interest'. Was talking with somebody from there who was selling rather interesting looking figurines. In asking what they were supposed to be representing [expecting an answer about mythological creatures or gods] she looked rather surprized that we wouldn't know ... after all these were of those guys that come down and do some type of brain surgery on people in the night. Then she suddenly looked very worried and changed topics. The figures are a very familiar type 'style' I'm most have seen if they have seen any Peruvian figurines.

  • TheCastellanTheCastellan Posts: 511
    edited December 1969

    If anyone wants to make a scratch/custom made one, I am an amateur UFOlogist and have done a lot of research into the vessels that ET being have traveled in and here's some suggestions to make it a bit more accurate.

    1: Do not make it cluttered with machinery, the aliens, the particular species or two I looked at in my research tend to go for this mentality: Less is more.

    2: Little to no manual controls...a few touch screens at most. From what I have researched, the vessels were more thought controlled via telepathic brain waves and so on, possibly through an interface device on or near the head of the occupants.

    3: The interior walls was sort of self illuminated, with colors of various shades and hues swirling and blending subtly into each other. And the colors intensified when touched.

    4: Some of the vessels were filled with a liquid, possibly a nutrient fluid for the aliens, and fed on via absorbsion through the skin.

    5: subdued lighting.


    Hope this helps.

    Awesome. Yes that helps explain something.

    Also could fly off in any direction without the need to turn around first.


    And at very fast speeds. I gotta find an awesome video taken in Mexico of an amazing sighting.....20 or so ships, in 2 different formations, and each of them going in what I can only describe as 'dancing' with grace, spinning and rotating, while moving to the other formations and trading places. Mexico is a lot more open to the UFO topic and take it seriously, and have news programs dedicated to it, not like here in America where the mainstream media ridicules and laughs at it or gives it a quick tidbit, to cleverly follow it with reports staring a few tweeners on how to make a hoax, stating to be skeptical of the entire topic. They did that with Aldren and Mitchell when the came forward and talked about their experiences.

    Peru is another country 'of interest'. Was talking with somebody from there who was selling rather interesting looking figurines. In asking what they were supposed to be representing [expecting an answer about mythological creatures or gods] she looked rather surprized that we wouldn't know ... after all these were of those guys that come down and do some type of brain surgery on people in the night. Then she suddenly looked very worried and changed topics. The figures are a very familiar type 'style' I'm most have seen if they have seen any Peruvian figurines.

    Look up Native American history, as well as Hindu, Dogon and Egypt.....all are very similar and all of them even point to the same place....Sirius, and the Dogon knew of it's existence and location via metal maps long before Western science ever knew of it.

  • PorsimoPorsimo Posts: 178
    edited December 1969

    Sneeze and Hexie loses the uvmap ;-)


    Yeah, just one of the reasons why I love Wings :) Even with its limitations it has some great features!

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 6,194
    edited December 1969

    Porsimo said:
    Sneeze and Hexie loses the uvmap ;-)


    Yeah, just one of the reasons why I love Wings :) Even with its limitations it has some great features!

    I keep telling myself I should try and learn another program ... maybe one day.

  • PorsimoPorsimo Posts: 178
    edited December 1969

    Porsimo said:
    Sneeze and Hexie loses the uvmap ;-)


    Yeah, just one of the reasons why I love Wings :) Even with its limitations it has some great features!

    I keep telling myself I should try and learn another program ... maybe one day.


    Same here :lol: There are things that can be done rather easily in other programs, but require workaround solutions in Wings so things can get frustrating sometimes...

    I'm just too used to its interface and the way it works :)

  • MJ007MJ007 Posts: 988
    edited December 1969

    Another bridge I am considering is attached below. I really like how the command chair sits "above" the rest of his bridge crew. The alien culture kinda has a hierarchy like this and this is a good representation of their bridge.

    I also really like how all the panels "look" alien. No english or such no where i can see on this set.

    What concerns me is the textures of this set look very flat and Im concerned how this will come off. I also found out this set resembles an actual Klingon bridge but im not sure from what movie. And with that being said, with me using it in a commercial setting, can i run into some issues with the Star Trek owners due to the resemblance.

    -MJ

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