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Carrara v8.5.0.149 (PC/Mac) Beta Update
Posted: 15 July 2012 08:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 136 ]
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PhilW - 15 July 2012 04:31 PM

I have no insider knowledge, but I fully expect that Daz will publish a usable serial number tomorrow.

Interesting…


So what are you thinking, that maybe since today is, what Sunday, then maybe the DAZ people aren’t in the office today? Because I think you’re right, I think most companies don’t work on Sunday, I think they stay home that day. Which would probably mean that tomorrow would be, what, Monday or something? And I think you’re right on that one too, I think most people go back to work on Monday, after being off for the weekend.


So if they come back to work tomorrow, which is Monday, then maybe they’ll be able to do what they need to do in order to publish a serial number, because they’re back in the office, and can get to their computers and stuff. Is that what you’re thinking, because I totally agree, you have a good point. That’s probably what will happen.


Though I want to make it clear, I have no inside information either, I’m just guessing like everyone else.

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Posted: 15 July 2012 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 137 ]
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Kendall Sears - 15 July 2012 05:28 PM
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When using _8-1.1.1.12_Mac64 You get: (see attachment) all permissions ARE correct, is not an osx issue.


Just to be pedantic, this is an OSX issue.

We have the fixes. They are being held hostage by bad management…. Or more likely our devs and project managers are letting us squawk to force someone’s hand at DAZ HQ to pay bills. Do you seriously think they “forgot” their own deadline? Folks, look at the website. Look at the store. The DAZ boat is on its side and the wealthier passengers have already boarded the lifeboats for other programs.

 

For those who are curious, the issues under Lion OSX.7 are NOT universal… I am using C8.1 under Lion and it is working, but with my old bugs from 10 months ago… So no animating and no preview in the shader room, etc, etc, etc.


YMMV…, but if you need to get work done tonight (I have to deliver animations on Wednesday…) and you are on osX.7, don’t take their word for it. Try it and see…


I’ll be deleting my Carrara website this week and cancelling my PC membership. I’ve had Carrara since before version 1.0—when it was Ray Dream. This is the end for me. If I’m stuck at C8.1 as the “defenders” here are suggesting, then there is no reason for me to participate in broken forums for a broken program.


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Posted: 15 July 2012 08:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 138 ]
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I, too, have no insider information, but since they put the last download up via the store I’m guessing it will be a final release for sale on Monday.

That may mean a free copy of 8.5 for all registered 8 users, but it may also mean a paid upgrade (unusual, I think , for DAZ).

Either way, if anyone here is just using the Beta and didn’t purchase 8, it’s going to cost.

If anyone here did purchase 8 and is stuck now the Beta of 8.5 is down, because you installed it over 8, you may need to reset your downloads and reinstall 8.1 from your account.

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Posted: 15 July 2012 09:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 139 ]
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holly wetcircuit - 15 July 2012 08:52 PM

I’ll be deleting my Carrara website this week and cancelling my PC membership.

Okay, well, that’s JUST the kind of negative talk and negative attitude that’s just going to make DAZ mad at us. And as we all know, companies care about profit and loss only to a point…if they’re mad at you, all bets are off, and they won’t care about making money, they’ll just care about being mad at you.


Heck, with that kind of talk they might just decide that we don’t deserve 8.5, or even 9. They may decide to just drop Carrara altogether with talk like that


So let’s just try and stop this negative talk, and be happy with what you’ve got. and that DAZ has so generously given us.

‘K ?

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Posted: 15 July 2012 09:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 140 ]
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Holly!
Sorry to hear you’re so bummed.  :(
Based partially on your recommendation, I picked up 3dxchange 5 and I’ve been toying with it for a few days now.  I figure if DAZ is just going to be a content supplier, I might as well just enjoy their content in another company’s animation software. 
What has your experience been?  Has the quality been good?  I know there’s no facial animation yet, but aside from that, does the detail of characters transfer well?  Have the animation results been good?

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Posted: 15 July 2012 09:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 141 ]
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I think they want to sell Genesis and related content so are not going to NOT release it just because upset Mac Lion users like Holly made them mad tongue wink
I basically got iClone 3dxchange 5 and pipeline for free by beta testing for Reallusion using C8.5 so not worried about paying for it.
just wish I could already.
and a lot of people who bought Carrara as a result of my posts and videos on pipeline might get a bit annoyed if it is not realeased but that is Daz’s problem, not mine
for me it only means I am less inclined to buy a lot of additional Genesis stuff unless I plan to use it in iClone via Daz studio which I do already.
I will still use Carrara more, just not with Genesis

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Posted: 15 July 2012 09:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 142 ]
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holly wetcircuit - 15 July 2012 08:52 PM

I’ll be deleting my Carrara website this week and cancelling my PC membership.

So let’s just try and stop this negative talk, and be happy with what you’ve got. and that DAZ has so generously given us.

‘K ?

LOL And the land of the misfit toys and really bitchy newbies who tell you off when they don’t understand your answer…. *sigh* I shall miss this place. NOT!


I’m getting the 3dXchange SuperDuper version this month while the intro sale is still happening. Got my kitchen cleared for the mocap plugin. I hope the bvh works to Carrara, but I got Poser9 recently so I’ll have a workpath one way or other…. Wendy is way ahead of me in iClone. I’m PC phobic so it’s been a while to get it set up….

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Posted: 15 July 2012 09:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 143 ]
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djmulchay, Genesis works better in iClone exported into 3dxchange from Daz studio than Carrara 8.5
so you you do not need the beta, Daz studio pro is free.
you just cannot use pipeline to export FBX figures usable in Carrara 8.1 production build from iClone, can still do BVH movements though.
Reallusion has promised facial animation some time in the future for Daz characters but are obviously experiencing bugs too!
I do a lot of “dance” videos without dialogue tongue rolleye

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Posted: 15 July 2012 09:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 144 ]
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wendy♥catz - 15 July 2012 09:38 PM

djmulchay, Genesis works better in iClone exported into 3dxchange from Daz studio than Carrara 8.5
so you you do not need the beta, Daz studio pro is free.
you just cannot use pipeline to export FBX figures usable in Carrara 8.1 production build from iClone, can still do BVH movements though.
Reallusion has promised facial animation some time in the future for Daz characters but are obviously experiencing bugs too!
I do a lot of “dance” videos without dialogue tongue rolleye

Hmmm…. better in iClone?  Interesting.
I’m familiar with iClone, but I’ve always thought the character models were… underwhelming. 
If I can get DAZ content in an animation package that the developers actually care about, I’ll be very happy. 
I didn’t hear about any problems with facial animation, aside that it would probably be available come fall.  What have you heard?

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Posted: 15 July 2012 10:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 145 ]
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mostly Genesis in iClone
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-3rTUIo5YQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7VKY-9m4IY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZstMOTFRs8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djjsX2hJxWM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwOpKSL8Q_Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LBumvkqDVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJa6PvfYaGk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4TXLgRQQ7E
all have been done via Daz studio too!
I am only guessing why Reallusion has not released facial animation already, actually have no idea but they have said it is going to be a free upgrade.
only animated morphs do not work in iClone like dress handles and hair morphs etc but I just use autofitted outfits that do not use those anyway.
more of an issue with V4 & M4 etc.
and dynamic cloth out of the question.
You CAN ofcourse rig stuff in studio (or Carrara for that matter) and use in iClone inc “boning” cloth and hair and attaching it as assesories, I cannot do it in studio due to lack of interest mainly.
I do rig stuff in Carrara for iClone.
exporting that from C8.1 still works.
I attach cloth and hair to the skeleton of non-Genesis figures by selecting hip and attach skeleton in animation weight paint it to export into iClone from Carrara.

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Posted: 16 July 2012 08:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 146 ]
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holly wetcircuit - 15 July 2012 08:52 PM
Kendall Sears - 15 July 2012 05:28 PM
VFX13 - 15 July 2012 04:45 PM

When using _8-1.1.1.12_Mac64 You get: (see attachment) all permissions ARE correct, is not an osx issue.


Just to be pedantic, this is an OSX issue.

We have the fixes. They are being held hostage by bad management…. Or more likely our devs and project managers are letting us squawk to force someone’s hand at DAZ HQ to pay bills. Do you seriously think they “forgot” their own deadline? Folks, look at the website. Look at the store. The DAZ boat is on its side and the wealthier passengers have already boarded the lifeboats for other programs.

 

For those who are curious, the issues under Lion OSX.7 are NOT universal… I am using C8.1 under Lion and it is working, but with my old bugs from 10 months ago… So no animating and no preview in the shader room, etc, etc, etc.


YMMV…, but if you need to get work done tonight (I have to deliver animations on Wednesday…) and you are on osX.7, don’t take their word for it. Try it and see…


I’ll be deleting my Carrara website this week and cancelling my PC membership. I’ve had Carrara since before version 1.0—when it was Ray Dream. This is the end for me. If I’m stuck at C8.1 as the “defenders” here are suggesting, then there is no reason for me to participate in broken forums for a broken program.


Good luck everybody. blank stare


Feelin’ your pain!  Anyone have an affordable alternative to this, the single most frustrating piece of software I’ve ever encountered? My projects don’t warrant the purchase of the super-pricey Big Boyz apps, so Carrara was an attractive offer…until I started wrestling with it. Now it’s just a waste of time and money. I give up too! Suggestions appreciated. Thanks! And farewell, Carrara!

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Posted: 16 July 2012 08:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 147 ]
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Sorry everyone. I’ve updated the SN for Carrara 8.5 Beta.


CDZCPRO-085-0000026-BLW-001-EBTOLPQ  Expires August 31st, 2012

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Posted: 16 July 2012 09:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 148 ]
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thankyou ♥
note to self
CHANGE that damned mip mapped texture setting!!! in preferences if you can!!!!

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Posted: 16 July 2012 09:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 149 ]
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Way to go Daz.

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Posted: 16 July 2012 09:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 150 ]
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Traumador - 15 July 2012 08:12 PM

Fun fact Kendall, I didn’t download a time limited version of the program….
...It is NOT a privelege to pay $400 to “test” software (whether a Beta or not) if it isn’t going to work for testing!!! So stop telling me and others it is okay that we paid perfectly good money for absolutely NOTHING,...

What are you talking about?
Check your downloads and you will find several downloads including ‘Carrara 8 Pro - Win64bit - exe - pc’ and ‘Carrara 8 Pro - Carrara 8 Application PC 64 - exe - pc’. The latter is the one you paid for.
It is surely labeled very badly in the new downloadsection, but you have access to too versions from which one is the beta and the other one the paid release-version.
It surely is annoying that 8.5 isn’t accessible sometimes and the serials should be updated earlier for people who use Genesis-stuff until the final release is available.
After that you will have to purchase the update, so what?
You bought C8.1, nothong else.

It is funny that several people seem to rely on a beta for commercial projects.
Very professional guys! Really!

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