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By the way: did you grab the SR2?
http://poser.smithmicro.com/updates.html

Kerya - 20 June 2012 02:50 AM

By the way: did you grab the SR2?
http://poser.smithmicro.com/updates.html

Yeah, I did - thanks.

I guess I don’t need an SR1 since I didn’t see one.

No - SR1 is built into SR2.
Or historically speaking it is the other way round SR2 is built upon SR1.

I figured as much.

I am still playing.  I am surprised how fast the renders are.

I had one v4 with hair, three lights set to ray trace and ambient occlusion and set render quality to final - it only took a couple of minutes.

I can’t compare that directly to DS lights because there are so many different things to factor in, but that seems pretty fast to me -including I am not using my 64 bit capabilities (I7 with 16 gigs of ram…) that I can in DS4

I have been having fun testing out things that were preset to Poser.  Wow there are some great things in my runtime!!  Light sets and all sorts of things.

And just as a disclaimer   -  I am NOT comparing to say which is better.  I use a variety of programs for a lot of different purposes.  But the differences help me sort out when to use which program.

natrix natrix - 15 June 2012 10:11 AM

Poser 9 is worth it for the subsurface scattering alone, but there is some very good content included. Human figures, most notably Alyson - fairly good as she is, but with the Anastacia morph from Renderosity she is a worthy rival to V4. You also get all the legacy Poser figures, some of which are very good (James esp.).
There’s an awesome dragon! And lots of interior, furniture as well as nature stuff.
I’m not aware of a full list of content, but the features page is here: http://poser.smithmicro.com/p_features.html

I am going to have to buy Anastasia for sure.

The SSS, is that in the textures or is that something that has to be turned on?

namrettek - 20 June 2012 06:41 AM

natrix natrix - 15 June 2012 10:11 AM

Poser 9 is worth it for the subsurface scattering alone, but there is some very good content included. Human figures, most notably Alyson - fairly good as she is, but with the Anastacia morph from Renderosity she is a worthy rival to V4. You also get all the legacy Poser figures, some of which are very good (James esp.).
There’s an awesome dragon! And lots of interior, furniture as well as nature stuff.
I’m not aware of a full list of content, but the features page is here: http://poser.smithmicro.com/p_features.html

I am going to have to buy Anastasia for sure.

The SSS, is that in the textures or is that something that has to be turned on?

 

There may be something that needs to be turned on, but there is definitely a component to the MAT file. Many new products have different sets of mats for Poser 8 and 9. There are also plug-in-the-texture-of-your-choice generic SSS shaders.

I actually looked around a little and found a pretty good explanation.  At runtimedna they have a free weight mapped figure called Antonia.  Included with that figure is a great PDF that explains how to do an SSS node in the poser material room. 

So far the biggest problem I am having with poser is that everything looks so real that all my hair looks really fake!

That, and I’m having trouble getting things to NOT conform.  If I add a prop it conforms to the figure and I can’t get it to just be a prop.

I’m going to buy poser pro.

I have been extremely impressed with Poser.

Goodlooking hair in Poser: 3Dream and Mairy hairs.
Having trouble getting things to NOT conform? Do you add props by drag and drop from the library? Did you try doubleclicking instead?

namrettek - 21 June 2012 12:01 PM

I actually looked around a little and found a pretty good explanation.  At runtimedna they have a free weight mapped figure called Antonia.  Included with that figure is a great PDF that explains how to do an SSS node in the poser material room. 

So far the biggest problem I am having with poser is that everything looks so real that all my hair looks really fake!

That, and I’m having trouble getting things to NOT conform.  If I add a prop it conforms to the figure and I can’t get it to just be a prop.

I’m going to buy poser pro.

I have been extremely impressed with Poser.

Excuse me if you know this already:

Props don’t “conform”. Conforming refers to a second CR2 that has the exact same bones with the exact same names as your character and each bone will match up with the corresponding bone.

Props are “Parented” and enter the hierarchy one step below the bone they’re parented to.

Try loading the prop without a character in the scene (Hopefully it comes in centered on the ground) and save it with a new name. Now you have a parented version (smart prop) and an unparented one.

Thanks - I used the wrong term.  It was a figure not a prop.

It was a hat for v4.

I had an Antonia in the scene and when I added the hat it came in around Antonia’s head.  But when I tried to translate rotate etc. it did so a though it was confirmed to Antonia.  In DS I would just change fit to to fit to none.

it also was not parented to Antonia - at least it wasn’t listed under Antonia in the tree but as it’s own item.

If you gonna play with poser you definitely gonna need this.   http://www.snarlygribbly.org/3d/forum/

Finally got a little time to play with poser 9. 

I’m blown away by the speed of firefly.  This took 15 minutes to render.  And I’m only using the 32 bit program. I bet it’s a lot faster with the 64 bit version on my I7!!  I am buying poser Pro this week!

It would take reality and 15 hours to do this in DS (at least for me).

Ghostman - 23 June 2012 11:28 AM

If you gonna play with poser you definitely gonna need this.   http://www.snarlygribbly.org/3d/forum/

Thanks for the link.  I will have to check this out.

I just installed Poser Pro 2012.

I ran the exact same image.

It took about 9 and a half minutes.

Holy Cow!!!

Ok I only did it at 1280 x 960 but I’m used to several hours in other programs (for that resolution).

Poser is nearly as fast as Carrara.  But the lights are great.  (Not saying Carrara doesn’t have great lights but Poser’s are easier to set up and get great results).

I will have to check out IDL next to see how that compares with Carrara render times.

Now I just need to learn how to use poser…

um…

(again I’m not trying to say that anything is better or worse just trying to figure out the best tools for ME for the different pics I am trying to do.)

What kind of pc do you have?
A 9 1/2 minutes render 1280x960 is either a very, very fast computer - or not very high quality lights/render settings.

Edited to add: I like Bryce, DazStudio, Poser and Vue ... maybe I should make that my signature line.