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Posted: 29 November 2012 12:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 406 ]
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MotoTsume - 29 November 2012 12:36 PM

I love reality/lux just cant use it anymore :(
since I cant afford the version that works with ds 4+
and I dont use ds3 anymore.


I sent my machine for re formatting did not bother with installing 3 when it got back

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Posted: 29 November 2012 01:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 407 ]
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Rogerbee - 29 November 2012 12:52 PM
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Betty

Are you sure you’ve got all the shaders set up right for Reality!? Your textures all look pretty basic, as though no shaders were actually loaded. It looks like DS did when you didn’t assign all the shaders in that.

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No everything is at it should be its a really pale skin tone its prolly the darker mood lighting again you don’t see it right if you click on link for full size

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Posted: 29 November 2012 02:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 408 ]
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Rogerbee - 29 November 2012 12:49 PM
MotoTsume - 29 November 2012 12:36 PM

I love reality/lux just cant use it anymore :(
since I cant afford the version that works with ds 4+
and I dont use ds3 anymore.

I didn’t think Reality was that expensive, the version for Poser that launches in March is only $60 as far as I recall.

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60 dollars right now would mean one month without groceries

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Posted: 29 November 2012 02:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 409 ]
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Bobvan - 29 November 2012 01:10 PM
Rogerbee - 29 November 2012 12:52 PM
Bobvan - 29 November 2012 11:52 AM

Betty

Are you sure you’ve got all the shaders set up right for Reality!? Your textures all look pretty basic, as though no shaders were actually loaded. It looks like DS did when you didn’t assign all the shaders in that.

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No everything is at it should be its a really pale skin tone its prolly the darker mood lighting again you don’t see it right if you click on link for full size

Even at full size the textures don’t look that detailed. I guess you don’t use very complex textures in the first place. If you look at Paolo’s promos for Reality 3, he used the Danae Dublin texture and it looks amazing. What are the render settings for Lux, have you checked them? From what I can see from your renders they look like Poser or DS would with the most basic settings loaded.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 02:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 410 ]
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MotoTsume - 29 November 2012 02:13 PM
Rogerbee - 29 November 2012 12:49 PM
MotoTsume - 29 November 2012 12:36 PM

I love reality/lux just cant use it anymore :(
since I cant afford the version that works with ds 4+
and I dont use ds3 anymore.

I didn’t think Reality was that expensive, the version for Poser that launches in March is only $60 as far as I recall.

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60 dollars right now would mean one month without groceries

Ouch, sorry,

I didn’t realise your financial situation was that bad. I’ve been on social security since 2001 and do get enough money to get by and finance a hobby.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 411 ]
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Rogerbee - 29 November 2012 02:47 PM
Bobvan - 29 November 2012 01:10 PM
Rogerbee - 29 November 2012 12:52 PM
Bobvan - 29 November 2012 11:52 AM

Betty

Are you sure you’ve got all the shaders set up right for Reality!? Your textures all look pretty basic, as though no shaders were actually loaded. It looks like DS did when you didn’t assign all the shaders in that.

CHEERS!

No everything is at it should be its a really pale skin tone its prolly the darker mood lighting again you don’t see it right if you click on link for full size

Even at full size the textures don’t look that detailed. I guess you don’t use very complex textures in the first place. If you look at Paolo’s promos for Reality 3, he used the Danae Dublin texture and it looks amazing. What are the render settings for Lux, have you checked them? From what I can see from your renders they look like Poser or DS would with the most basic settings loaded.

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All materials NEED to be adjusted its most likely cause I dont fart around with maps.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 412 ]
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Gotcha,

If you’re happy with that then carry on, the renders have their distinctive style. I always try to push the envelope and will when I get Reality.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 413 ]
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Rogerbee - 29 November 2012 03:39 PM

Gotcha,

If you’re happy with that then carry on, the renders have their distinctive style. I always try to push the envelope and will when I get Reality.

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Well as you know playing with maps adding bump ect will sometimes significantly add to render times. I produce 500 plus render stories and get commission projects at the same time so Lux allows me to do this with 1/2 decent quality.  Since you are into map tweaking you will get some really nice results!

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Posted: 29 November 2012 06:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 414 ]
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Hmm,

With that kind of workload, I can see how quick and easy would win every time. On a good day, if I’ve nothing else to do, I could do six at a push. I probably could do more if I felt like it, but then I wouldn’t have time to post them!

Keep ‘em coming, it pays the bills!

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Posted: 29 November 2012 08:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 415 ]
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quick render - playing with some light setups and some postwork techniques

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Posted: 29 November 2012 10:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 416 ]
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Roger here are some comparisons using the same sets DS lights vs Lux all created more or less the same way

  DS LDP2   http://fav.me/d48hg8x        Luxrender http://fav.me/d5hn3lq

  DS lighting   http://fav.me/d3iq2s1        Luxrender http://fav.me/d5m75dm

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Posted: 30 November 2012 01:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 417 ]
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...It’s not so much bashing as it is I am still not totally convinced with Lux.

Part of my issue is that you need a lot of “horsepower” to really take advantage of what it can do. Or wait a very very long time (provided the process doesn’t stall or crash). If the results are not what you expected or hoped for, that’s a lot of time wasted.

From what I gather, to get good “photorelaistic” looking skin tones with Lux (as with any photo real render engine) it requires making a lot of minute adjustments to shaders, specularity, bump, AO, and SSS. and performing time consuming test renders.  For some that isn’t an issue, for others with limited time it is.

Personally speaking, I find the latest release of 3Delight to be amazing.  Even rendering with Lantios or Cloud 9 takes noticeably less time than older versions of the render engine and produces excellent results. With just standard Daz lighting and mapped shadows, I’ve had fairly high quality (non photo real) renders complete in just around a minute or two that used to take upwards of a half hour or more in older versions of the application..

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Posted: 30 November 2012 02:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 418 ]
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MotoTsume - 29 November 2012 08:47 PM

quick render - playing with some light setups and some postwork techniques

Interesting, what effect were you going for!?

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Posted: 30 November 2012 02:32 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 419 ]
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Bobvan - 29 November 2012 10:37 PM

Roger here are some comparisons using the same sets DS lights vs Lux all created more or less the same way

  DS LDP2   http://fav.me/d48hg8x        Luxrender http://fav.me/d5hn3lq

  DS lighting   http://fav.me/d3iq2s1        Luxrender http://fav.me/d5m75dm

Based on those, the Daz LDP2 looks the best. If you’re not going to adjust anything in Lux then you might as well not bother and just use LDP2.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 02:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 420 ]
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Here’s a couple more Poser UE renders,

Axel International and Yanneks’ Sol. Both of these were designed to look good with UE so it’s no surprise they look good now.

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PS (It’s the same head as I forgot to change the morph!)

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