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Posted: 02 May 2013 01:37 PM   [ Ignore ]
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is there a learning curve or will this be as easy to use as Lantios lights?

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Posted: 02 May 2013 01:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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There will be a degree of a learning curve as the render engine (LuxRender) utilises lights and materials in a different way to those in-built to Daz Studio and Poser.  However you get there, via Reality, Luxus, obj export to Blender, etc., etc., you will find that for best results you will need, before the final export to LuxRender, to tweak some materials.  You will also need to set up your lighting differently.

That said, the curve to get to basic “ok level” is not that steep.

The renders can take a lot longer to ‘resolve’ as the render mechanism is different to 3Delight, etc., and consists of rays of light being tracked as accurately as possible so the quality should continue to build as time passes.  That is quality of the light, not of the artistic level of the scene! smile

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Posted: 02 May 2013 02:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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You COULD try it in Blender first http://www.luxrender.net/en_GB/index and not worry about buying Reality or Luxus till you’re satisfied you want to work with it.

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Posted: 02 May 2013 03:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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putting is striaght it is like eveything what you put in you get out. Meaning if you are willing to take time and learn then yes it can do a nice job but if you just want to use presets and not learn much then no Lux is not for you. smile Though Luxus does a reasable job for you up to a point beyond that will need to get your hands dirty and expect it to take time.

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Posted: 02 May 2013 04:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Best tip for Lux that any user can get. If you prefer fast renders (if 4 hours is long to you) then Lux is not a tool you will want. I have had Lux renders need as much as 24 hours to get to what I was happy with. As I prefer Faster I have not used it in months now.

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Posted: 03 May 2013 09:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Jaderail - 02 May 2013 04:41 PM

Best tip for Lux that any user can get. If you prefer fast renders (if 4 hours is long to you) then Lux is not a tool you will want. I have had Lux renders need as much as 24 hours to get to what I was happy with. As I prefer Faster I have not used it in months now.


Only true if you are using the CPU only.  Anyone who has an OpenCL capable video card can take advantage of the GPU rendering instead.

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Posted: 03 May 2013 02:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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wancow - 02 May 2013 02:51 PM

You COULD try it in Blender first http://www.luxrender.net/en_GB/index and not worry about buying Reality or Luxus till you’re satisfied you want to work with it.

I would highly recommend you stay away from Blender. Blender is a completely different beast all together than using DAZ and is quite frankly, one of the most complicated 3D programs I have ever used. Lux is simply a rendering engine. The biggest difference you will see over the default Daz Studio engine is the way it handles light. It’s much more complicated on the technical side of how it’s doing the calculations… BUT: Surprisingly: It’s actually easier to use (IMO) than DAZ as far as lighting is concerned. This is because Lux’s interpretation of lighting is much more realistic based.


When using daz I usually have fill lights, points and etc. to light up my scene. When I use Reality I can use only 1 light at times (Sunlight). Or 2 lights with most scenes. I own Reality and Luxus… Personally I find Reality to be MUCH simpler to use and has a plethora of support out there for it. A very active Youtube tutorial list from preta3D, and an active forum to name a few. He’s also on Twitter and has excellent support.

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Posted: 03 May 2013 07:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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You COULD try it in Blender first http://www.luxrender.net/en_GB/index and not worry about buying Reality or Luxus till you’re satisfied you want to work with it.

I would highly recommend you stay away from Blender. Blender is a completely different beast all together than using DAZ and is quite frankly, one of the most complicated 3D programs I have ever used. Lux is simply a rendering engine. The biggest difference you will see over the default Daz Studio engine is the way it handles light. It’s much more complicated on the technical side of how it’s doing the calculations… BUT: Surprisingly: It’s actually easier to use (IMO) than DAZ as far as lighting is concerned. This is because Lux’s interpretation of lighting is much more realistic based.


When using daz I usually have fill lights, points and etc. to light up my scene. When I use Reality I can use only 1 light at times (Sunlight). Or 2 lights with most scenes. I own Reality and Luxus… Personally I find Reality to be MUCH simpler to use and has a plethora of support out there for it. A very active Youtube tutorial list from preta3D, and an active forum to name a few. He’s also on Twitter and has excellent support.

ive seen some mention of Reality on the forums. Does daz sell it?

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Posted: 03 May 2013 07:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Not any longer. Just Google Reality 2 and you will find it.

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Posted: 03 May 2013 08:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Reality is sold at renderocity.com, or directly from www.preta3d.com. you would want to look into version 2.5, that’s the DAZ version (supports poser. Too). Reality 3 ATM is only for Poser. It’s coming soon to DAZ as well.

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Posted: 04 May 2013 02:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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sgreco1970 - 03 May 2013 07:03 PM
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wancow - 02 May 2013 02:51 PM

You COULD try it in Blender first http://www.luxrender.net/en_GB/index and not worry about buying Reality or Luxus till you’re satisfied you want to work with it.

I would highly recommend you stay away from Blender. Blender is a completely different beast all together than using DAZ and is quite frankly, one of the most complicated 3D programs I have ever used. Lux is simply a rendering engine. The biggest difference you will see over the default Daz Studio engine is the way it handles light. It’s much more complicated on the technical side of how it’s doing the calculations… BUT: Surprisingly: It’s actually easier to use (IMO) than DAZ as far as lighting is concerned. This is because Lux’s interpretation of lighting is much more realistic based.


When using daz I usually have fill lights, points and etc. to light up my scene. When I use Reality I can use only 1 light at times (Sunlight). Or 2 lights with most scenes. I own Reality and Luxus… Personally I find Reality to be MUCH simpler to use and has a plethora of support out there for it. A very active Youtube tutorial list from preta3D, and an active forum to name a few. He’s also on Twitter and has excellent support.

ive seen some mention of Reality on the forums. Does daz sell it?

Without derailing this thread too much, I’d recommend Luxus or holding out for Reality 3 due later this year. The reason’s are many fold. Firstly, Reality 2.5 only supports some of the total materials which Lux offers, not all. Notable omissions include carpaint, cloth and mix materials. Second, Reality 2.5 has no support for volumes aside from basic fog and so you can’t use SSS (subsurface scatter) effects. Thirdly, its interaction with Daz Studio can be hit and miss as it opens in its own window. This means you have to close the window to do any alterations to the scene or to use the surface selection tool and so on. Sometimes it can even cease to load at all when you select it from the menu.

Luxus is integrated into Daz Studio and basically gives you additional material parameters so you can work with them like any other surface. It supports all Luxrender materials and is future compatible for new ones which may arrive. The caveat here is that you may find it a little harder to work with as it requires a better understanding of Luxrender. That being said, using it will teach you how to better manage materials, and so improve your skill in using it.

Reality 3 is due out later this year, though I don’t believe a date has been set yet. It will support all of the new materials, as well as include its own ‘skin’ setting to make creating realistic skin a MUCH easier affair which alone could be worth the asking price. Paolo states there may be an upgrade option for users of Reality 2.5, but no news yet on how much that will cost, so you might end up paying more than if you had just bought Reality 3 right off the bat.

No news either on its integration with Daz Studio, but it’s likely going to be similar to Reality 2.5, which does bring its own pitfalls but may well be worth enduring for the greatly improved features it brings to the table. Being the technophile that I am, I’ll be getting it if only to compare the skin shaders to my own previous attempts in Luxus.

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Posted: 04 May 2013 12:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I still gets alot of results with R2

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Jaderail - 02 May 2013 04:41 PM

Best tip for Lux that any user can get. If you prefer fast renders (if 4 hours is long to you) then Lux is not a tool you will want. I have had Lux renders need as much as 24 hours to get to what I was happy with. As I prefer Faster I have not used it in months now.


Only true if you are using the CPU only.  Anyone who has an OpenCL capable video card can take advantage of the GPU rendering instead.

GPU rendering is crashes on my i7 notebook hopefully it may work on my new 32G workstation I am having built…

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Posted: 04 May 2013 02:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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sgreco1970 - 02 May 2013 01:37 PM

is there a learning curve or will this be as easy to use as Lantios lights?

I own Lantios Lights 2 and Luxus, so I can compare my experiences with each of them.

With LL2, I can just load the lights, render, and expect good results. Sometimes some modifications are required to get the lighting looking the way I want it to—especially if I’m going for an “artistic” effect, rather than just “lighting that looks pretty good.” But out-of-the-box results are usually nice.

With Luxus, I can just change a setting on the Render pane and it’ll render in LuxRender instead of 3Delight. So the minimum amount of effort needed is about the same. But I soon learned not to expect good results on this first try. While Luxus will do some necessary conversions for you automatically, you’ll probably need to do some more things on your own to get it looking the way you want it to. And that will require some learning.

That having been said…I haven’t used Luxus very much yet and still don’t know much about it, but I’ve already gotten one render out of it that I was quite pleased with and others seem to like also. smile

Something else to consider…there’s already a Luxus tutorial in the store, and a lightset for Luxus was just released. And I imagine more will be coming.

Edited to add: But it’s not really fair to compare Lantios lights and LuxRender (Luxus or other methods) in terms of ease-of-use. Lantios Lights is designed to be a load-it-and-render-it lighting solution. As others have said, LuxRender is a whole different render engine with many different controls and options. Luxus and Reality are designed to give DAZ Studio users access to that render engine and its options, but they approach this goal in different ways. It’s apples to oranges. Both are delicious fruit, in my opinion.

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Posted: 05 May 2013 06:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Jaderail - 03 May 2013 07:28 PM

Not any longer. Just Google Reality 2 and you will find it.

out of curiosity, why doesnt daz sell it anymore?

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Posted: 05 May 2013 07:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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sgreco1970 - 05 May 2013 06:03 AM
Jaderail - 03 May 2013 07:28 PM

Not any longer. Just Google Reality 2 and you will find it.

out of curiosity, why doesnt daz sell it anymore?

From the Reality website, written by the author.

Pret-A-3D - 04 September 2012 09:18 PM

I sold the product at DAZ for about 18 months, testing how that channel was performing. Unfortunately the DAZ store, for a software developer, is very expensive and it provides very few ways of promoting the product. On top of this, the developer has no control on his product. I tried to work with DAZ on changing that situation but the company was not receptive of my feedback and, regrettably, I had to remove my products from the DAZ store. There are no conflict between our two companies, in fact deliveries of updates to Reality have been done basically just a few hours after the latest Studio version has been released. Reality is going to be on DAZ Studio for the foreseeable future.

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