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Posted: 02 April 2013 09:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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laynemoore - 02 April 2013 08:18 AM

Thanks man I will. I just downloaded it. You should make a tutorial on how you made this.

Thank-you. I am flattered.

The effort behind this really isn’t worth a full-blown tutorial—though I do like teaching (I mostly do talks for my company on SQL Server…that PowerPoint stuff I’ve mentioned on this thread).

Check out cripeman’s YouTube tutorials on Carrara. I also mentioned PhilW’s awesome training package from Infinite Skills.

Above all, play with the tools yourself and feel free to ask questions of people here. Most of us are really pleasant and try our best to be helpful.

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Posted: 02 April 2013 09:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Roygee - 02 April 2013 03:10 AM

Geekatplay has great project-based, very detailed tuts - wish there was something like this for Carrara!

Last I looked, Hex was $19.99 - great value for a superb modeler:)

Take a look at http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/forum.php - most users are high-end, but it is great for inspiration, backgrounds and many other resources - not to mention the free stuff!

Getting there:
►    Cripeman’s Carrara Video Tutorials Index
Check out some of the tuts under modeling.
He also doesn’t feel that Carrara is a strong modeler.
I think that some of that is true, but I think that a lot of it comes from the fact that it’s different, and it feels different. I feel that Hex is sub-par to Carrara when I get into it, simply because I can’t navigate around my object as I’m used to. So some of it may simply come from a different feel… but perhaps Carrara truly is missing some key elements that real modelers find missing. I’m not sure.

Last I looked, Hex was $19.99 - great value for a superb modeler:)

I really love having this as part of my kit. Even though I model everything in Carrara, the bridge between this and D|S gives some amazing features beyond what’s being discussed here.

DaRkWyNdE,
Awesome stuff! Very nice mesh work.

Garstor, I missed your model… I’ll quick go back a page and find it!

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Posted: 02 April 2013 09:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Dartanbeck - 02 April 2013 09:27 AM

Garstor, I missed your model… I’ll quick go back a page and find it!

Prepare to be underwhelmed.  grin

DarkWynde’s stuff is 10,000x better.

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Posted: 02 April 2013 09:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Garstor - 01 April 2013 12:26 PM

Here’s the rough thing that I threw together between ignoring customers this morning…

@laynemoore: you are welcome to an OBJ of this if you like…or I can import it into Carrara 8 and give you a CAR file.

Agreed, with one exception: This looks like a Hero ship to me! Bad guys should get a pile of sh… um… poopies to drive!
Then again, it does have a nice, sleek, stealthy design… Giving an added edge to the bad folks in a cool ship is a good tactic too.

Great job Gars-Man!!!

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Posted: 02 April 2013 09:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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laynemoore - 01 April 2013 12:51 PM

So, yeah.. someone mentioned Lightwave. I googled it and looked at the website. Almost crapped my pants. Is it hard to learn this?

GUY! I have a full version of Lightwave 8, Had it for years and I always go back to HEX. Hex is a pleasure to use. WHILE it does not work on the latest MAC OS! I use it on mt older G5 10 os

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Posted: 02 April 2013 09:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Garstor - 02 April 2013 09:28 AM
Dartanbeck - 02 April 2013 09:27 AM

Garstor, I missed your model… I’ll quick go back a page and find it!

Prepare to be underwhelmed.  grin

DarkWynde’s stuff is 10,000x better.

You sell yourself short. While I agree that DarkWynde’s stuff is excellent, I’m here to tell you that yours is really nice. Look like a good mesh - and it has a really cool look to it!

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Posted: 02 April 2013 10:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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RichardChaos - 02 April 2013 09:50 AM
laynemoore - 01 April 2013 12:51 PM

So, yeah.. someone mentioned Lightwave. I googled it and looked at the website. Almost crapped my pants. Is it hard to learn this?

GUY! I have a full version of Lightwave 8, Had it for years and I always go back to HEX. Hex is a pleasure to use. WHILE it does not work on the latest MAC OS! I use it on mt older G5 10 os

Ya know… I’ll have to spend a nice, long weekend in Hexagon sometime soon. I remember looking into it a while back, on the old forums, and there were some folks there who were regular posters who did absolutely amazing wonders in there. RichardChaos and DarkWynde have been using it to make super cool models, Roygee and HeadWax… As much as I love modeling in Carrara, I also have Hexagon. Poor little guy is all lonely, sitting there unopened for over a year now :(
I better go in and have some fun.

Also, as I’ve mentioned earlier:
D|S and Hexagon bridge together. If you want to add a morph to something, you can send it from D|S to Hexagon, make your tweaks, and send it back to D|S, and the bridge will assist you in the rest! It’s like magic, I always say!
More,
If what you want to add morphs to would benefit by having a second model with it, you can send whatever is selected from D|S to Hex. Then whatever model you don’t want changed can be locked. Now you have a mannequin to work from! That’s what I’ve been using it for. I’ll have to hop in and build from scratch now. See what I can do with a little exploration time.

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Posted: 02 April 2013 10:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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For Sci Fi work, however (or anything else, really), you should know that Carrara’s Vertex Modeler has it’s own replicator built in. Meaning that you can make a part, and reproduce it in many different ways within the same vertex model. If you’ve mapped it already, or added morphs, etc., that all carries through in the replication. Might be something fun to try, as with many of Carrara’s other features.
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Here’s how I found out about that:

Pete Gregorio has a wonderful online video tutorial that demonstrates some
wonderful features within Carrara’s Vertex Modeler: Carrara 8 Gears Tutorial

It’s very cool!

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Posted: 02 April 2013 11:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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RichardChaos - 02 April 2013 09:50 AM

GUY! I have a full version of Lightwave 8, Had it for years and I always go back to HEX.

Says he who has not seen the latest 11.5 version…  LOL

I know; you’re a Hex fan-boy—just like Dart is a Carrara fan-boy. It’s all good…we’re friends here.

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Posted: 02 April 2013 02:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Hey, Dart - I’m as much a Carrara fan as you are - maybe not so vocal about it:) 

I am also a realist - yes, of course, Carrara is capable of modeling anything you put your mind to, just as are Anim8or or Wings 3d, or any other modeling app.

Fact of the matter is Hex is a dedicated modeler and has many, many more features that make life a lot easier.

This train, for instance, has hundreds of moving parts - I wouldn’t even dream of doing this in Carrara.  One day I’ll build up the nerve to UV map and finish it:)

I have all of Cripemans videos and they are really good and handy to have - especially pointing out features I wouldn’t otherwise know about, or different ways of utilising them.  They are short and sweet and to the point - very much appreciated.

Geekatplay on the other hand have tuts that run to an average of 30 minutes, often longer and go into real depth. That is what I miss in Carrara - serious in-depth tuts.

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Posted: 02 April 2013 05:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Roygee - 02 April 2013 02:30 PM

Hey, Dart - I’m as much a Carrara fan as you are - maybe not so vocal about it:) 

I am also a realist - yes, of course, Carrara is capable of modeling anything you put your mind to, just as are Anim8or or Wings 3d, or any other modeling app.

Fact of the matter is Hex is a dedicated modeler and has many, many more features that make life a lot easier.

This train, for instance, has hundreds of moving parts - I wouldn’t even dream of doing this in Carrara.  One day I’ll build up the nerve to UV map and finish it:)

I have all of Cripemans videos and they are really good and handy to have - especially pointing out features I wouldn’t otherwise know about, or different ways of utilising them.  They are short and sweet and to the point - very much appreciated.

Geekatplay on the other hand have tuts that run to an average of 30 minutes, often longer and go into real depth. That is what I miss in Carrara - serious in-depth tuts.


That is a very nice engine. Aside from gauges I don’t know why you’d need a UV map. I would think simple shading domains and procedural shaders would suffice. I’ve been up close and personal to a few operational steam engines- even in the cab while under way and there’s nothing that screams that it needs image maps, which is why I assume you’d want a UV map. Of course it’s you’re model and you have a better idea of what you want to do than I, but I would definitely finish it!

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Posted: 02 April 2013 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Roygee - 02 April 2013 02:30 PM

Hey, Dart - I’m as much a Carrara fan as you are - maybe not so vocal about it:) 

I am also a realist - yes, of course, Carrara is capable of modeling anything you put your mind to, just as are Anim8or or Wings 3d, or any other modeling app.

Fact of the matter is Hex is a dedicated modeler and has many, many more features that make life a lot easier.

This train, for instance, has hundreds of moving parts - I wouldn’t even dream of doing this in Carrara.  One day I’ll build up the nerve to UV map and finish it:)

I have all of Cripemans videos and they are really good and handy to have - especially pointing out features I wouldn’t otherwise know about, or different ways of utilising them.  They are short and sweet and to the point - very much appreciated.

Geekatplay on the other hand have tuts that run to an average of 30 minutes, often longer and go into real depth. That is what I miss in Carrara - serious in-depth tuts.


I can’t quite make it out from the angle and resolution of the reference image, but on the drivers, did you leave enough room for the tires? The rim around the edge seems a bit thin.

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Posted: 02 April 2013 06:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Roygee - 02 April 2013 02:30 PM

Hey, Dart - I’m as much a Carrara fan as you are - maybe not so vocal about it:)

Your enthusiasm speaks well enough for itself smile

Roygee - 02 April 2013 02:30 PM

I am also a realist - yes, of course, Carrara is capable of modeling anything you put your mind to, just as are Anim8or or Wings 3d, or any other modeling app.

Fact of the matter is Hex is a dedicated modeler and has many, many more features that make life a lot easier.

This train, for instance, has hundreds of moving parts - I wouldn’t even dream of doing this in Carrara.  One day I’ll build up the nerve to UV map and finish it:)

Good to know. Yeah I look forward to checking that out. I know that I sure am glad to own it. Just looking at that model in the promos for Hex… Yeah!!!
I was really glad to get it when I did - and was really happy when Daz3d gave everyone on the planet a chance to buy it for free!
I’m more inexperienced with 3d modeling features than otherwise. As I say… I’ve never gotten to a place where Carrara is missing what I need - but that could be that I don’t know what better to use (tool/function-wise) so it’s hard for me to tell. I was able to find more functions and tools in Carrara, as a matter of fact, until I bought Fugazi’s “Genesis Starter Kit” video tutorial and starter mesh for Hexagon, for making clothes for Genesis. He points me to the menu where… “Oh… looky there!!!!” there’s a whole pile of options! lol

Roygee - 02 April 2013 02:30 PM

I have all of Cripemans videos and they are really good and handy to have - especially pointing out features I wouldn’t otherwise know about, or different ways of utilising them.  They are short and sweet and to the point - very much appreciated.

Geekatplay on the other hand have tuts that run to an average of 30 minutes, often longer and go into real depth. That is what I miss in Carrara - serious in-depth tuts.

I gotta check that out. I bought the Infinite Skills for Carrara Advanced Techniques and know what you mean by liking good instructional videos. It really helps to see what’s going on. I haven’t really set out to make my own original models yet - you know.. models. So far I just create helpful vertex objects! smile
Morphing replication distribution figures, light domes, you know…
I’ll be making a starship too, fairly soon here. Another week or two I’ll be starting on it, interior and exterior. I’ll be starting it in Carrara, and working my way through. This will actually be my first major 3d model that I’ve built since I’ve had either Carrara or Hex, which I got in the same order. Since I already learned the Carrara stuff from learning about other aspects of it, I guess I’m just more comfy in there. Besides, I really want to dig in!

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Posted: 02 April 2013 10:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Thanks EP:)

The reason for needing UV maps is so I can make it available as a freebie and procedurals don’t transfer well to other apps.  With my very low-powered machine I’m not much into doing renders - just too frustratingly long.

The wheels are in exact proportion to my ref pics of a well-known loco used for taking steam enthusiasts on day trips to a small village a couple hundred K’s from here.  It was made a few years ago as part of a community film project that faded away before taking off - my contribution was to model the entire village:)

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Garstor - 02 April 2013 09:28 AM
Dartanbeck - 02 April 2013 09:27 AM

Garstor, I missed your model… I’ll quick go back a page and find it!

Prepare to be underwhelmed.  grin

DarkWynde’s stuff is 10,000x better.

I beg to differ, sir. Your model looks like a spacefighter. The last time I tried to do a single seat aircraft/spacecraft it looked like it
belonged in a episode of South Park or the Simpsons.

Did you output in the Carrara Beta for the .car file? It came into my 8.1.1.2 with some twisted polys at the intake manifold.

I have over 25 odd designs and when I look at them they don’t look like they would be 2000+ feet long.

Anyway, your ship is sleek and deadly looking.

 

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