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Exclusive news at CarraraCafe: Time and details about Carrara 8.5 and 9 releases
Posted: 25 February 2013 05:08 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Get the exclusive news here:
http://carraracafe.com/?p=2663

/EDIT: Corrected post with better English and other minor details.
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Posted: 25 February 2013 05:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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That’s the breaking news???

LOL.

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Posted: 25 February 2013 05:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It’s still news and it’s they have release date-ish… blank stare


Hmmmm…. Maybe not…

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Posted: 25 February 2013 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Let’s see… They announced that they’d have some news by the end of the month.

Here we have a notice that there’s an announcement over at Carrara Café.

Over at Carrara Café, there’s a few more details (Summer release, Mountain Lion compatibility to which I say “hot damn and it’s about time”), and that by the end of the month, they’ll announce something here on the Daz 3D forums.

If they work it fast enough, they can dribble out more details and bounce attention between Carrara Café and here two more times before they need to release actual news. It’s a hint that someone is doing something Carrara-related, and that’s something.

Also, mildly surprised that they’re not simply announcing the future release of Carrara 9 as a beta for early investors. Yeah, that would’ve been a dick move, but all things considered…

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Posted: 25 February 2013 05:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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                          Smiles——-Hey- Its not awesome news but it does alleviate all the doom and gloom end of the line etc talk. So I being a complainer of having no news from DAZ have to commend them not just indicating one future release but two. (Not going to have any two for ones sales either I suppose)

                          So, You can look at this announcement and be underwhelmed or you can look at the positives . There will be future development in Carrara and some improvements here and there. 

                            So, I take this as good news. Not awesome news ...but good.

                     

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Posted: 25 February 2013 06:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I told you all it was a bunch of @#$%

So two years of waiting on C8.5 for little more then genesis compatibility. I swear to got if I had the money I’d replace carrara, and not look back. The problem isn’t carrara it’s what DAZ is frickening doing or should I say not doing with it.

Nothing like a developer letting an app drown in it’s own mediocrity. And keep all of us dancing on a string for 2 years waiting for it, is just icing on the cake.

Sorry but there is nothing I could possibly say that would curtail Carrara sales worse then DAZ has done. Talk about being your own worst enemy.

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Posted: 25 February 2013 07:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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blank stare .... Oh well…....see you all in a few months

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Posted: 25 February 2013 07:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Well I say Hell Yeah!!!
But you all knew I’d say that, didn’t you? Dude, I’m sorry, really sorry that you feel let down. Truly. What excites “Me” is that there are still more improvements on the docket for 8.5 before production release. As happy as I’ve been with the last few version of the beta, which I think is great, by the way (and I’ve seen ManStan figure out some neat stuff in it, too, just sayin’) but didn’t really want it left in its current state. I know they wanted it to be better (devs) so I did too.
But the fact that a rough estimate towards the release of version 9 is what’s really got my stomach tickling. For the life of me, I can’t seem to find that dog gone thread where we were all providing feedback towards what we would like to see in episode 9. Well, like I said previously, I’m not in a position to know what should or shouldn’t be added. Blissfully content has its drawbacks… just not very many.
But You all had some great things to say in there. And just like what the devs asked for, there was confirmations of the great feedback. People rallying to one poster’s suggestions saying - “Yup… That and that. I agree”
If they have THAT list to work from, in addition to whatever they might think will help keep Carrara jammin’ I’m freakin’ excited. Sorry but I am!
I hope they fix your cloth thing Manley. I have the feeling that they’ll gear a good bit of resources towards giving you some great soft-body. They improved it for you already - I bet they make it even better by summer’s end. I know that they heard you towards your frustration regarding the now broken Collada route you were using for D|S dynamics. Maybe they’ll have a new solution by adding DSON compatibility. Between you and PhilW, I bet you’ll get your soft body clothing rockin’ to the storm!

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Posted: 25 February 2013 07:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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3drendero - 25 February 2013 05:08 PM

Get the exclusive news here:
http://carraracafe.com/?p=2663

Thanks man. I appreciate your great sense of urgency towards this stuff.

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Posted: 25 February 2013 07:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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3dView - 25 February 2013 05:44 PM

Hey- Its not awesome news but it does alleviate all the doom and gloom end of the line etc talk. So I being a complainer of having no news from DAZ have to commend them not just indicating one future release but two.

Yep Rich ... I’m pretty much with you. I was getting worried and pessimistic. Tried to feed off Dartanbeck’s enthusiasm. So this is good news insofar as I know Carrara hasn’t been left blowing in the breeze.

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Posted: 25 February 2013 07:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Dartanbeck - 25 February 2013 07:24 PM

Well I say Hell Yeah!!!
But you all knew I’d say that, didn’t you? Dude, I’m sorry, really sorry that you feel let down. Truly. What excites “Me” is that there are still more improvements on the docket for 8.5 before production release. As happy as I’ve been with the last few version of the beta, which I think is great, by the way (and I’ve seen ManStan figure out some neat stuff in it, too, just sayin’) but didn’t really want it left in its current state. I know they wanted it to be better (devs) so I did too.
But the fact that a rough estimate towards the release of version 9 is what’s really got my stomach tickling. For the life of me, I can’t seem to find that dog gone thread where we were all providing feedback towards what we would like to see in episode 9. Well, like I said previously, I’m not in a position to know what should or shouldn’t be added. Blissfully content has its drawbacks… just not very many.
But You all had some great things to say in there. And just like what the devs asked for, there was confirmations of the great feedback. People rallying to one poster’s suggestions saying - “Yup… That and that. I agree”
If they have THAT list to work from, in addition to whatever they might think will help keep Carrara jammin’ I’m freakin’ excited. Sorry but I am!
I hope they fix your cloth thing Manley. I have the feeling that they’ll gear a good bit of resources towards giving you some great soft-body. They improved it for you already - I bet they make it even better by summer’s end. I know that they heard you towards your frustration regarding the now broken Collada route you were using for D|S dynamics. Maybe they’ll have a new solution by adding DSON compatibility. Between you and PhilW, I bet you’ll get your soft body clothing rockin’ to the storm!

DO YOU really think what we posted has any affect on what they will do in 8.5 or 9 - really think !
No happy comment just a straight answers .

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Posted: 25 February 2013 08:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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            Bigh,——Actually here is the way it goes——-cust A says mmmm I would like python scripting in Carrara . Cust B says I would love fluid simulations like Houdini has. Cust C says—I would like some improvements in the realistic sky atmosphere area . Cust D says gosh I would like better terrain editing.

            So daz checks this list out and says a and b we cannot do——-takes too many resources , but maybe we can do c and d or maybe one of those.

            Its really has some elements about what folks want but more to do with what Daz can develop. I think they listen to some degree but its all predicated on resources. So sure you could have a version 9 list as long as a 10 ft pole and Daz is gonna pick just a few things it thinks it can

            Thats my read on how things have gone in the past.

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Posted: 25 February 2013 08:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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3dView - 25 February 2013 08:01 PM

So daz checks this list out and says a and b we cannot do——-takes too many resources , but maybe we can do c and d or maybe one of those.

I’d say that is an accurate assessment of any software project; regardless of the company size (though obviously, smaller companies are more cognizant of resources). It is certainly this way with Microsoft—they can do a lot of supremely cool things (and some spectacularly dumb things tongue wink ) but it is ultimately the end resources that dictates what makes into a product for RTM (Release To Manufacturing…i.e. what you buy).

Speaking personally with what I have experience on…SQL Server…customers were really ticked off at the 5 years between SQL Server 2000 and 2005. Back then, the devs had near free reign and they worked until the product was done…no matter the length of time. Sounds familiar doesn’t it—but in DAZ’s case; I’d say it is the lack of resources that is the inertia behind C8.5 / 9 delays.

MSFT management sure listened to those complaints and the SQL devs completely revamped how they checked-in code. They committed to a two year major release cycle with 2 month cycles between bug fix releases. If a feature is not ready by given check-in date…then it is not included in the main source code tree.

Okay, end of digression…

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Posted: 25 February 2013 08:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Yea!  Glad something is moving ahead!

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