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Posted: 22 February 2013 06:20 PM   [ Ignore ]
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I really like this. Just perusin’ around looking for ways to compose at home for my animation needs. I am very open to ideas and suggestions in this regard. I stumbled upon this looking for something that can make my new midi controller do something besides sit there all silent. The enthusiasm of the speaker is great and the software itself looks, well… Carraraesque.
Miroslav Philharmonik Training 1/5 - Overview - Great orchestra samples

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Posted: 23 February 2013 03:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Hi Dartanbeck wink

I actually know these samples very well,. I used to deal with the Miroslav Vituos collection of Sample CD’s, before IK got hold of them,. but I also know IK, since their first products..

The MV Collection is still one of the best full orchestral sound samples,. but they’re now about 25yrs old,. recording technology, and Virtual instrument synthesizing technology has changes a lot in that time, as has sampling, and recording.

It really depends on what you want to do,. and what the IK price of these are now,.
When I dealt with these products,. the MV collection of 10CD’s sold with full licence for 10.k

IMO there are cheaper alternatives.

 

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Posted: 23 February 2013 03:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It is good, but these are samples only. You still need to play / compose. Have a very serious look at Band in a Box. With this you have unlimited options. With BIAB you could add the samples you like, if you want. If you need a DAW, use Reaper. It is a lot cheaper as his competitors and is on the same level as the big boys (A bit like the Carrara situation). But you could do it without a DAW.

Not posting links, but you can figure it out. Also search on YouTube with my keywords.

A new world could go open for you.

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Posted: 23 February 2013 11:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I use loop software called Soundtrack that came with Final Cut Pro. It’s similar to what you can do with Garage Band, but a bit more advanced. String your music loops together and viola!


I did the intro music for my brother and his friends podcast a few years ago using it.
http://youtu.be/Th0h6xEPgIM

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Posted: 23 February 2013 11:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Excellent video series! She’s just damn cute, isn’t she?

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Posted: 23 February 2013 11:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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3DAGE, I’m glad you can give praise to them. They are actually one of the lowest priced collections I’ve found - without sounding, well, you know… but suggestion are very welcome. IK sells a download version for peanuts right now.

Pjotter, Thanks for that. I will definitely look into Band in the box, you’re right. I don’t need links smile
It was the DAW that was stumping me. I have a great controller with 88 weighted keys that I can’t wait to use. I’ll look into Reaper, thanks. I was also considering, just for starters, anyways, trying out a multi-track recorder to start with. The DAW actually stores the controller data, right? So I could create sequences towards a symphonic finale? That’s really what I do want.

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Posted: 24 February 2013 03:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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A DAW is like a mixer you see in recording studios. But, like Reaper, it has ALL necessary hardware included, like compressors, limiter, reverb, etc. And you can save it, render it to CD, MP3. Reaper is the cheapest (I think 60 dollar) and very community driven. They listen to their user and add their request. I read somewhere in an comparison test, “The progress of Reaper is a bit scary. ” (In the positive way.) A DAW can be controlled by an external DAW controller, but it can be done with the mouse.

You can hook up a synth to BIAB and to a DAW and record. You can also record note by note. You can work with audio and midi in a DAW. Looping, samples, etc. It is almost a complete recording studio. You could do without any form of hardware. Start by downloading the manual. Be careful, you will get addicted to it.

There is an excellent magazine called Computer Music for this. With often has free samples, software synths, plugins. And for instance tests of sample libraries.

Also have a look at Native Instruments and Kontakt (a very good sampler). Audacity is a very good and free audio editor.

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Posted: 24 February 2013 05:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Hi Dartanbeck smile

What sequencer are you using right now to create music

I tend to jump between using Ableton Live, and Samplitude.

I’ve just had a deeper look at the IK MV Philharmonik,..
you get the VST plugin, and 7GB of samples ,... for 60 euro’s,..  into the cart.  smile

Even if it’s a cut down version, I think it’s still worth it at that price.

Andy smile

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Posted: 24 February 2013 09:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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3DAGE - 24 February 2013 05:33 AM

Hi Dartanbeck smile

What sequencer are you using right now to create music

I tend to jump between using Ableton Live, and Samplitude.

I’ve just had a deeper look at the IK MV Philharmonik,..
you get the VST plugin, and 7GB of samples ,... for 60 euro’s,..  into the cart.  smile

Even if it’s a cut down version, I think it’s still worth it at that price.

Andy smile

I also had a look at it, but it seems the full version, to which you are referring, is now cheaper as the limited edition. Correct me if I am wrong.

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Posted: 24 February 2013 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Dimension Theory had some great music in many of his videos inc his guitar playing as well as computer generated stuff.
Lately though he started using Jamendo (I think) royalty free stuff, but I really liked his own stuff.

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Posted: 24 February 2013 11:01 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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3DAGE - 24 February 2013 05:33 AM

Hi Dartanbeck smile

What sequencer are you using right now to create music

I tend to jump between using Ableton Live, and Samplitude.

I’ve just had a deeper look at the IK MV Philharmonik,..
you get the VST plugin, and 7GB of samples ,... for 60 euro’s,..  into the cart.  smile

Even if it’s a cut down version, I think it’s still worth it at that price.

Andy smile

I don’t yet have a sequencer, and am wondering what all, I’ll need besides my M-Audio and that IK Philharmonic?
I looked at Reaper last night, and it looks like a great solution. I believe that would be it, right?
M-Audio studio 88,
IK Philharmonic,
Reaper
8 core monster computer
Do I need anything else? I do have sound forge as well, for 2d mixing down… bur wouldn’t Reaper handle that end?

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Posted: 24 February 2013 11:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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wendy♥catz - 24 February 2013 10:14 AM

Dimension Theory had some great music in many of his videos inc his guitar playing as well as computer generated stuff.
Lately though he started using Jamendo (I think) royalty free stuff, but I really liked his own stuff.

Me too… Well, and I just like Him!
He’s so cool! I love his products, but half the time, I already know I’ll like it if he made it, so I just buy it before I read what it is! His tutorials rock me home. But, as you said, his music is nice.
So far the only music I’ve been using in my videos is royalty free stuff that I’ve collected from other products I’ve purchased for production - which comes with RF music - which is cool to have. I’m getting another collection from the makers of Dogwaffe, once that whole thing goes through. If you’ve ever seen “The Daily Dose”, All of the tunes that say in the title, “Also in the CoolCreativeBundle” I’ll be getting that - which I think is really great stuff.

I’ve written and composed a bit years ago. I love that - not something that can leave you once you’ve done it. I’ll be organizing melodies in my head as I work all the time. But this is different. This will be the score. The pulse-pounding climax with roaring ripping french horns cutting deep into action, followed by the sadness of a slow stroke on the cello. With chilling tremolo violins initiating suspense…
You know… fun! I really like what Howard Shore did in The Lord of the Rings. Michael Hoenig’s Baldur’s Gate, too. My Dad used to always play the theme music of “Exodus” and “Genghis Khan” as I was growing up. I really love that stuff. Those two soundtracks got me interested in soundtrack scores way back then. That is what I listen to, when I listen to music. I play drums for all varieties of rock, and for 33 years now it has helped put food on the table.

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Posted: 24 February 2013 11:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I assume you have read my previous reply?

Is a good list, but how do you CREATE music. You have the sounds and a DAW, but not a composer / player. Do you want to play yourself? BIAB could do that for you.

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Posted: 24 February 2013 11:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Pjotter - 24 February 2013 11:21 AM

I assume you have read my previous reply?

Is a good list, but how do you CREATE music. You have the sounds and a DAW, but not a composer / player. Do you want to play yourself? BIAB could do that for you.

Yes, I’d like to perform, myself. I will look more into BIAB next. But that’s where I got the Reaper idea… thanks for that because there’s such a daunting selection of DAWs.
I watched this tutorial on getting started with Reaper, and it lloks like I could call it quits there - from my understanding.
It appears that it would give me the ability to create block after block of performances and loop them where they need to be, add this and that till my heart’s content, and do a final mix-down. Am I reading this right?

Yeah… having that M-Audio Pro with 88 weighted keys, ‘twould be a shame to auto cycle music, leaving that wonderful thing behind, eh? wink
I am not new to writing music, but using this type of stuff… yeah. never done it. But I feel comfortable with how to use Reaper, and the IK plugin…. I just don’t know if that’s going to complete a program, or if I need more.
My current budget would handle this as a stopping point for ow very well - leaving the rest for my pre-production video editing stuff that I want - Dogwaffle’s CoolCreativeBundle (which includes Curvy3d sculpting, AnyFX filters, Genetica Basic, and a pile of other great stuff!)

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Posted: 24 February 2013 11:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I’m also not exactly sure how, but I believe I can make my keystation pro 88 control Reaper…
I’ll be learning much more as I get the stuff I need. Especially the samples.

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Posted: 24 February 2013 12:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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You can create loopings, but you can also record in midi in Reaper. With midi you can make multiple copies or change the instrument, using your samples. So if you don’t like the sound of what you recorded (in midi), choose a different instrument. Instead of an acoustic guitar, you can change it to electric guitar, or trumpet, or….... And for instance, you cannot stretch an audio sample without changing its pitch. With midi it is no problem.

I think you have to use Google much more to find answers. Have a look for: keystation pro 88 control Reaper. The first search result goes to the Reaper site (Cockos). Google is mazing. It is one of my tools.

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