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The Realism Challenge - Biased VS Unbiased Showdown
Posted: 17 February 2013 08:35 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Hey guys and girls. The idea for this challenge came up in the Carrara section of the forums. Basically we have two groups of people around these forums. Those who swear by unbiased renderers like Lux (Reality) or Octane and those who are adamant they can produce the same results in their biased software of choice (Poser, Studio, Carrara, Bryce etc.)

So the challenge is simply this. Don’t argue your case but render it. Show us that you are indeed better able to use your software of choice than the next guy is able to use his. There are no prizes, just an oppertunity to become a true champion for your clan. Everyone else is welcome to express their pleasure or dismay about the images they view but please do keep it polite and civil.

Only one rule - No Postwork!

On your mark, get set, render!

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Harry Dresden - 17 February 2013 08:35 AM

Only one rule - No Postwork!

I agree with that rule. I think that the subject of the scene ought be similar. We shouldn’t be trying to make exact duplicates, but there should be an over-arching theme.

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Here is an idea, pick a scene from here so all the contestants need to do is texture and lighting

http://www.3drender.com/

I recommend the fruit bowl scene.

 

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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The original challenge over at Carrara was on the subject of humans and skin but we can change that. Lol. LOL

But seeing as I waited 1.5 hours for this render to finish I’m posting it! Grrr… LOL

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Did this one awhile ago. Pretty simple scene. I wanted to test how minimal I could go.


Carrara 7.2 Pro render.


One light and a white background color. Partial GI- Meaning I only had the Skylight option enabled and not full Indirect lighting. Skylight allows for the white Background color (or anything in the scenes’s Background actually) to act like an IBL. I simulated SSS by using the skin’s color image map in the glow channel.

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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go DAZ

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Go Carrara

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Go Bryce 7.1 Pro

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Damn, sexy pic evil. Got a phone number? LOL

Great image Rareth. I love the mood.

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Harry Dresden - 17 February 2013 09:25 AM

The original challenge over at Carrara was on the subject of humans and skin but we can change that. Lol. LOL

But seeing as I waited 1.5 hours for this render to finish I’m posting it! Grrr… LOL

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I’m pretty sure the discussion was about the render engine and not the subject of the render. The discussion was really about shaders/textures and lights. The argument being, it doesn’t matter the engine, if you don’t know what you’re doing, then the renderer makes no difference. Conversely, if you do know what you’re doing, then it would be difficult to say what render engine was used. That was my take away at any rate.


I believe that Carrara’s render engine is still very capable and I have yet to see anything from the more hip renderers that couldn’t be done in Carrara with the exception of GPU rendering. Carrara’s renderer also appears to be a lot faster than Reality, which isn’t meant to be a diss on Reality.


As to sticking with the same subject, you all can do that if you want, but if I conceive of a scene that I think shows off Carrara’s renderer, then that’s what I’m doing. Sorry.

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Harry Dresden - 17 February 2013 09:33 AM

Damn, sexy pic evil. Got a phone number? LOL

Great image Rareth. I love the mood.


Thanks!

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Harry Dresden - 17 February 2013 09:33 AM

Damn, sexy pic evil. Got a phone number? LOL

Great image Rareth. I love the mood.

Thanks.. my “The Fantastic Art of Frank Frazetta” book is sending me subliminal signals, (that and its right next to my computer table) ..

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Harry Dresden - 17 February 2013 09:25 AM

The original challenge over at Carrara was on the subject of humans and skin but we can change that. Lol. LOL

But seeing as I waited 1.5 hours for this render to finish I’m posting it! Grrr… LOL

DAZ Studio 4.5 - Eat your hearty out Reality. cheese

I’m pretty sure the discussion was about the render engine and not the subject of the render. The discussion was really about shaders/textures and lights. The argument being, it doesn’t matter the engine, if you don’t know what you’re doing, then the renderer makes no difference. Conversely, if you do know what you’re doing, then it would be difficult to say what render engine was used. That was my take away at any rate.


I believe that Carrara’s render engine is still very capable and I have yet to see anything from the more hip renderers that couldn’t be done in Carrara with the exception of GPU rendering. Carrara’s renderer also appears to be a lot faster than Reality, which isn’t meant to be a diss on Reality.


As to sticking with the same subject, you all can do that if you want, but if I conceive of a scene that I think shows off Carrara’s renderer, then that’s what I’m doing. Sorry.

I meant my challenge to carfor but agreed. Lol. We’ll go with the fruit if everyone is happy with that. Downloading as we speak.

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Posted: 17 February 2013 09:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Carrara 8.1, IES lighting.

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Posted: 17 February 2013 10:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Nice image Kodiak. It will take me a while to figure Carrara’s lighting out. Lol.

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Posted: 17 February 2013 10:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Harry Dresden - 17 February 2013 09:55 AM

I meant my challenge to carfor but agreed. Lol. We’ll go with the fruit if everyone is happy with that. Downloading as we speak.


Go ahead with the fruit if you wish. I’m not using a still life to show off what Carrara’s renderer can do versus another. I think if you want to show off your render engine of choice, you should find some gee-whiz feature that the other renderer either can’t do, or can do, but with more difficulty. Otherwise this challenge is akin to seeing which car handles better in a school zone: The Prius or the Volt.

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