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Posted: 16 February 2013 12:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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I fully intend to smile  I’m hoping I’m up to that task!  Thanks for your help!  I’ll post progress on the hair when I have something worth showing smile

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Posted: 16 February 2013 04:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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I’d love to be a fly on the wall when you give that to Lauren. She’ll love it, I’m sure.

You’ve made a great job of that.grin

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Posted: 16 February 2013 06:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Wancow this may help it’s a link to Jim Farris’s poseable book up at ShareCG,if I remember correctly it comes with a template,so you can make your own bookcover and inside pages ....
http://www.sharecg.com/v/66786/browse/11/Poser/20-Page-Poseable-Book

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Posted: 17 February 2013 12:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Wancow,

Here’s my two cents. Disney characters tend to look child like. I used Genesis-V4 for this. To make the head shape I used the heart shape face and soften face. I increased the top of the head and increased the depth of the back of the head. I used brow smooth to make sure there wasn’t a brow line. I lower the eyes so that they were closer to the center of the head. I work on the chin to make it small and pointed. I kept the mouth low on the face so that the jaw line looks smaller. I did all this to give it a child like, doll like appearance.

I think with yours you should consider using a less detailed texture. Your mouth needs to be larger and softer looking. The nose is too thin, pointed, and long. The tip and wings need to be more rounded. I widen the ridge and bridge so that when viewed straight on they disappear.  I have a rule about eyes; maximum increase in size is 10%, any more and they begin to look odd. I know when you look at the drawing the eyes are large and slanted, but they’re working on a flat piece paper not a 3D object.

I hope I didn’t step on any toes with my suggestions. I wish I could send you my character so you could try it out, but it’s not possible. 

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Posted: 19 February 2013 09:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Working on the hair… I know it needs a lot of work smile

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Posted: 19 February 2013 09:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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carrie58 - 16 February 2013 06:26 PM

Wancow this may help it’s a link to Jim Farris’s poseable book up at ShareCG,if I remember correctly it comes with a template,so you can make your own bookcover and inside pages ....
http://www.sharecg.com/v/66786/browse/11/Poser/20-Page-Poseable-Book

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Posted: 19 February 2013 09:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Alicia’s Ireland provided this hair bun… I fit it just because I hadn’t made the hairbun… but now I kinda like the way it looks…

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Posted: 19 February 2013 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Greycat - 17 February 2013 12:15 PM

I hope I didn’t step on any toes with my suggestions. I wish I could send you my character so you could try it out, but it’s not possible.

Any post I make, any thread I start, opinions, comments and suggestions will always get you thouroughly throttled, hung, flamed and prossecuted!!!!! raspberry smile

I welcome them.  Any time I post, I welcome them because they help me learn.

Anyway, I’m actually going for a slightly more realistic look.  There’s no way that I know of to achieve the drawn look that some can get, I simply do not know how to do it.

So, what I am doing is this: I’m taking some cues from what was done with the characters in Tangled, and upping the realism just slightly.

Belle is probably the most “mature” of all the Disney princesses.  She’s bookish (read: a nerdy geek in modernspeak) and a bit of a loner.  Knowing these things about her I’m looking to extrapolate her and pull her into the modern world so that she becomes, in Lauren’s eyes, something a little more real.  I told Lauren she looked like Ariel (she resembles Ariel more than any other, imho) but she reminded me of Belle… which is why I’m doing Belle.

The look I’m going for is the very, very 3D Look.  However, I want Belle to be instantly recognizable, and I know I’m still not quite there (my cousin’s daughter, huge Disnely fan, didn’t recognize my portrait :( )

So, I’m still tweaking… worried about how the hair is coming together… it’s a bit of a project… but then, I knew it would be…

That said… truly, this is what I think Belle would look like if she let her hair down… Chohole’s MFD texture and the Angelisa Hair (which I like, just wish it was better made…

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Posted: 19 February 2013 10:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Absolutely amazing. You’re doing a fantastic job of capturing Belle’s apperance in 3D. What hairstyle are you going with for Belle? I assume you’re going for her ‘Disney Princess’ look rather than classic Belle in the blue dress and white apron? Either way, I think she’ll love the finished results.

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Posted: 19 February 2013 10:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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you know, HoF, I’m still trying to figure that out.  Wendy (Wilmap) just issued a dress that looks like it’ll fit the bill.  I haven’t downloaded it yet, but…

I had planned on making the gold dress… but I don’t know I have the time.

The hairstyle I’m doing is the one from the drawing posted in this thread by carrie58 on the first page of the thread.

Thank you VERY much for your comments!  They truly do keep me going!

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Posted: 19 February 2013 11:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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wancow - 19 February 2013 09:29 AM

Belle is probably the most “mature” of all the Disney princesses.  She’s bookish (read: a nerdy geek in modernspeak) and a bit of a loner.  Knowing these things about her I’m looking to extrapolate her and pull her into the modern world so that she becomes, in Lauren’s eyes, something a little more real.  I told Lauren she looked like Ariel (she resembles Ariel more than any other, imho) but she reminded me of Belle… which is why I’m doing Belle.

The look I’m going for is the very, very 3D Look.  However, I want Belle to be instantly recognizable, and I know I’m still not quite there (my cousin’s daughter, huge Disnely fan, didn’t recognize my portrait :( )

My laptop’s AC adapter is currently dead so I can’t be of much help with direct morphs but I think the realism may be the main difficulty.  Adding in some anime morphs (Hitomi/Aiko) and a smoother skin would probably help.  It’s funny that her skin is so flawless in the source material but it probably would have blemishes and such if she were real.  You might also want to toy with the lighting some.

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Posted: 19 February 2013 11:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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I haven’t yet begun to apply lighting, but I think you’re correct.  The texture I used in the innitial stages is the Tori for V5 texture that came with the V5 ProPak.  The problem with it was the brows.  I tried Vyktohria’s Ireland, but I had the same problem.  The one I have applied with the hair is Godin’s Danysa…

I love Ireland’s skin qualities, and I love Danysa’s brow line…. I’m probably going to have to make my own texture.  And I agree completely, that a little minor blemish here and there would probably be well advised for this project.

Right now, I know that I’m going to model Chip.  The other one I would like to make, if I have the time, is Babette, the Feather Duster.  Making Chip and Babette believable in this setting, with Belle as I’m building her, is going to be a challenge…  Hopefully, I’ll get there soon.  I need to finish the hair first.  I’m very much hoping Wendy’s new dress is going to take that project away…

At this moment the plan is to create an eight and half by eleven print that will be glued to 11x17 cardstock folded over into a verylarge greeting card…  I’m planing, however, on rendering out a few images on top of that…

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Posted: 19 February 2013 02:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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wancow - 19 February 2013 11:20 AM

I haven’t yet begun to apply lighting, but I think you’re correct.  The texture I used in the innitial stages is the Tori for V5 texture that came with the V5 ProPak.  The problem with it was the brows.  I tried Vyktohria’s Ireland, but I had the same problem.  The one I have applied with the hair is Godin’s Danysa…

I love Ireland’s skin qualities, and I love Danysa’s brow line…. I’m probably going to have to make my own texture.  And I agree completely, that a little minor blemish here and there would probably be well advised for this project.

On the contrary, I was actually meaning that you probably should use a slightly smoother skin for what you’re doing.  What you’ve got looks good so far but that’s probably causing part of the issue with her not being as recognizable as she should be.

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Posted: 19 February 2013 02:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Thanks Zamuel.  Understood.

What I’m hoping is that the hair will make her more recognizeable as well… here’s where I’m at

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Posted: 19 February 2013 03:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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She’s coming along nicely Wancow.grin

Wish I could do hair!

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