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Posted: 30 June 2012 06:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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@Jaderail
You’re welcome, not sure what you mean about the style though, I always thought grunge had less style due to the nature of the music (less melodic).  But It was nice to see you call it “Pure Goth”.  I bought some guitar synths a while back and intend to try my hand at some Gothic tracks and I’d be majorly pleased if they had that sort of feel to them.  I dread to think how they’ll turn out, but hope they’ll be melodic even if they turn out crap!


@Kettu the Cassette Girl
Hah, me cassette boy, me has a Sony KA6ES and loves it (can’t beat the warmth of the analogue tape format)!


Yes, those Finnish tracks have nice production, very important.  I think both Charon and Indica are ok, but I still don’t like Tik Tak much.  I don’t dislike the music, it just doesn’t click with me.  You refer to it as being like J-Rock, but to be honest, when it comes to the Japanese stuff, I prefer J-Pop.  That said, I do like it when Rock or Metal comes into J-Pop:


Here’s a slick example, this Aya Ueto track blends guitars and synths together really well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20cvFgCFkEs
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Posted: 30 June 2012 07:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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pumeco - 30 June 2012 06:12 PM

@Jaderail
You’re welcome, not sure what you mean about the style though, I always thought grunge had less style due to the nature of the music (less melodic).  But It was nice to see you call it “Pure Goth”.  I bought some guitar synths a while back and intend to try my hand at some Gothic tracks and I’d be majorly pleased if they had that sort of feel to them.  I dread to think how they’ll turn out, but hope they’ll be melodic even if they turn out crap!

By Grunge Style I sort of meant the Sound. Real good Grunge to me sounds more like they are just enjoying what they are doing than making sure it all sounds perfect. Hmm.. well, I mean something like that. It has a sound you know is grunge, not edited or perfect or ... heck I hope you know. You only know it when you hear it? Maybe Good Garage Band? I give up..

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Posted: 30 June 2012 07:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Jaderail, what I know about guitar music can be written on the back of a stamp, so be prepared to give up!


I knew what you meant by grunge, it’s what you meant by “style” I wasn’t sure about.  Like you say, grunge is more a sort of, well, noise.  Things don’t seem to matter as much.  Beyond the Void is melodic so I was puzzled when you said grunge had more style.  It’s a different style, but I wouldn’t say grunge had more style than Goth Rock or Goth Metal or whatever it is.

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Posted: 30 June 2012 07:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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The Grunge comment was only about Alice in Chains. I did not mean for it to apply to the rest of the post. Sorry I was not clear about that.

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Posted: 01 July 2012 09:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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@Jaderail
Thanks for the clarification.


BTW, after that conversation we had in cosmo’s thread, you might want to check-out the babe from the video I’m about to post.  She’s not visible in this video, but if you check-out some of their other videos you just might find yourself picturing her in a pair of 70’s hotpants, I certainly did.


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@Kettu
Listening to some of those Indica tracks I thought of this band, “Blackmore’s Night”.  They’re sort of Medieval Gothic, and in a lot of ways they do remind me of Indica so I think you might like it.  Very melodic, very talented, it’s a beautiful track!


Blackmore’s Night - Ocean Gypsy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JysW6eI5_TU
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Posted: 01 July 2012 12:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Those that haven’t heard of Blackmore’s Night might at least of heard the old song they’re covering here:


Blackmore’s Night - Streets of London:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1ZKlIyKHPo
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Posted: 02 July 2012 06:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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PS: Still waiting for this thread to be moved to the Bryce forum as requested.

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Posted: 02 July 2012 07:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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pumeco - 30 June 2012 06:12 PM

I think both Charon and Indica are ok, but I still don’t like Tik Tak much.  I don’t dislike the music, it just doesn’t click with me.  You refer to it as being like J-Rock, but to be honest, when it comes to the Japanese stuff, I prefer J-Pop.  That said, I do like it when Rock or Metal comes into J-Pop:
Here’s a slick example, this Aya Ueto track blends guitars and synths together really well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20cvFgCFkEs

This one is cool, what is she singing about? Does it tie in with the symbolism of her hand/ring anyhow?

I am not a big follower of the Japanese scene actually, just picking up stuff here and there. What I decidedly don’t like is their “oldschool” brand of metal, it just sounds somehow contrived to me and brings nothing new to the fore when compared to heavier stuff from the US and Europe. And then there’s the skimpwear issues… Like here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILt1rFklzP0

Anyway, speaking of Japanese stuff, I fell in love with the Spice and Wolf opening the moment I saw it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jqfnpvCHWA

Actually what I saw was the Russian version (duh, Russian TV only shows dubbed stuff), but it’s every bit as good (and has awesome lyrics, which is extremely difficult to achieve in Russian - this is why we prize our classical poets like Pushkin so much):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1qu4NKFQnY


And the ending is soooooo much better in Russian:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHTWdWvT52U

I love the show as a whole - see, I’ve always liked the anime/manga drawing style, but I could never find a plot that would make me feel at home, and Spice and Wolf seemed to have been written especially for me =) All the merchant tricks and economics stuff, it’s just so amazing!

 

pumeco - 01 July 2012 09:54 AM

Listening to some of those Indica tracks I thought of this band, “Blackmore’s Night”.  They’re sort of Medieval Gothic, and in a lot of ways they do remind me of Indica so I think you might like it.  Very melodic, very talented, it’s a beautiful track!


Blackmore’s Night - Ocean Gypsy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JysW6eI5_TU

Ah yeah, I still remember the day I first heard them on the radio =) I grew up a Deep Purple fan, so naturally I was interested in all the members´ side projects… I remember we believed it was a “phase” for Blackmore, that he was going to return to heavy rock, but thankfully he didn’t. Candice is awesome! This one’s a Renaissance cover, BTW. It may be blasphemy, but I do tend to like Ritchie and Candice’s version better than the original… Annie Haslam’s a bit overhyped, to my ears. There’s a live version of Renaissance I found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CBShoN2bhA

Overall, Blackmore’s Night do lovely covers, like this one of a Jethro Tull tune: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAG39_iQ0JA - the one hardcore DP fans love best because ZOMG Blackmore plays electric guitarzzz !!oneone!!

And then there’s one of Joan Osborne’s St Theresa : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHT6P6CmbRM
It was recorded later in studio in 2006, I think, but there’s a lot of charm to this live version, 1997 was when Blackmore’s Night were just beginning…

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Posted: 02 July 2012 06:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Haven’t got a clue what she’s singing about on that Aya Ueto track.  She’s removing a bandage but acting all cool and stuff, so I get the impression she got dumped, smacked him one and hurt her fist.  Now she’s kicking-off about it while acting like it doesn’t bother her.  She definitely looks pissed-off about something!  But yup, I totally agree about it being “cool”, that’s the first thing that comes into my head with that one, absolutely.


Regards the Spice and Wolf thing, I’ve never heard of that one.  I love Anime but I prefer stuff like Ghost in the Shell and Akira (it was Ghost in the Shell that got me into it).  For the more family-orientated Anime, I prefer Studio Ghibli films, I really can’t fault any of them, it’s just truly amazing storytelling - every single one of them.


Regards Blackmore’s Night, I also think Candice has a nicer vocal than Annie, although having just listened to it, I have to say I picked out a few words from Annie that I wasn’t sure about with Candice.  Candice has a gorgeous, sweet vocal, but I think Annie pronounces better.  But anyway, I’m glad I hit the right note with that one, you might like this next artist even more.


I think it’s fair to say this artist went down extremely well in the previous thread, although I got the distinct impression she’s nowhere near as recognised across the world as she deserves to be, she’s a really good singer songwriter.  If you’ve never heard of her, you’re in for a real treat providing those lamers (UK produced so it’s too special for the rest of the world) haven’t blocked it from your country (please let me know if you could play these three links).


Amy McDonald - Don’t Tell Me That It’s Over:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL4iDuzOCUM


Amy McDonald - Spark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMThY0mCiA


Amy McDonald - This is The Life:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRYvuS9OxdA
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Posted: 02 July 2012 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Hey…here something I listen to lately…:)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kz0-UdDyTs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lK3laVO53U

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Posted: 02 July 2012 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Allibaba, I was just about to hit the sack when you posted that, I really like that second one!


I couldn’t watch it at the link you gave but I found it at another link.  Yeah, now I know where you get some of the ideas from for your renders mate.  Bloody hell it was full of retro babe, just like the ones I see on my rickety old projector in my basement where I watch lots and lots of sexy 70’s films!


Now why can’t all women dress like that?


Here’s another link for Allibaba’s post if anyone couldn’t access the other one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpyZo7NTrSE


That was great, Allibaba, both musically and visually, cheers mate!
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Posted: 02 July 2012 09:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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The first one is from one of my all time favourite bands (The Cure) and the second is from Placebo which - I think - is a great video with a real story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BazJJDer4PI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13HnYhiE7xU

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Posted: 03 July 2012 07:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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@version3
I agree, that Placebo video is good storytelling!


@Richard and his moderator friends
I can’t help but notice that this thread still remains in the Art Studio forum, and while I’m sure you were all desperately wanting to move it to the Bryce forum for me as requested, I just wanted to say that I’ve changed my mind as it seems to be picking up momentum now.  Might as well leave the thread here.


You are still peasants though.

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Posted: 10 July 2012 11:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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pumeco - 02 July 2012 06:22 PM

Regards the Spice and Wolf thing, I’ve never heard of that one.  I love Anime but I prefer stuff like Ghost in the Shell and Akira (it was Ghost in the Shell that got me into it).  For the more family-orientated Anime, I prefer Studio Ghibli films, I really can’t fault any of them, it’s just truly amazing storytelling - every single one of them.

If they’re ever on TV here, I´ll be sure to check them out! And if you want more info on Spice and Wolf, here’s the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_and_Wolf - if you ever longed for being able to really make a living in Daggerfall based on the different economics needs between regions (like I always did LOL), it is for you!

pumeco - 02 July 2012 06:22 PM

I think it’s fair to say this artist went down extremely well in the previous thread, although I got the distinct impression she’s nowhere near as recognised across the world as she deserves to be, she’s a really good singer songwriter.  If you’ve never heard of her, you’re in for a real treat providing those lamers (UK produced so it’s too special for the rest of the world) haven’t blocked it from your country (please let me know if you could play these three links).

I’ve opened the links fine, but haven’t yet had a chance to listen (bad speakers at work), so I’ll let you know a bit later how I liked her, OK?

pumeco - 02 July 2012 07:49 PM

Now why can’t all women dress like that?

*frowns* Hey don’t forget there’s an actual woman in the thread, OK…

Unfortunately, most women’s careers are indeed dependent on their looks. Triply unfortunately that it happens in music. But I believe that in a few centuries’ time, history will sort everything out.


And speaking of Lemmy (thanks Allibaba!), here’s a lovely duet of him and Doro Pesch (a totally amazing person and, for those who have a superficial appreciation of women, a beautiful one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3KnCqU_BM4

Lemmy also reminds me of Hawkwind, an awesome prog rock band (he started out with them actually). Their music is visual, touchable…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQQfBTIfKvU

And then version3 reminded me of Placebo… I’m not a fan, but I totally adore this Placebo cover by Before the Dawn, a top Finnish MDM band!! Sadly Lars (clean vox) has left the band recently…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTeMAE9vfxU


I also wanted to link some early music I love (artists like Gisela Bellsola), but can’t find it on youtube =(((

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Posted: 11 July 2012 10:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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Mustakettu85 - 10 July 2012 11:57 AM

If they’re ever on TV here, I´ll be sure to check them out! And if you want more info on Spice and Wolf, here’s the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_and_Wolf - if you ever longed for being able to really make a living in Daggerfall based on the different economics needs between regions (like I always did LOL), it is for you!

OK, you win, I looked into Spice and Wolf, then noticed the complete set have been officially uploaded to YouTube.


I just watched the first episode and it was good enough to make me want to watch the next.  At first I thought it was going to be one of those girly teen-orientated things, but thankfully not.  Normally I look at the age rating on anime and if it’s not 18 certificate (or at the very least 15 certificate), I generally give it a wide berth unless, like I say, it’s one of the Hayao Miyazaki (Studio Ghibli) films.

 

Mustakettu85 - 10 July 2012 11:57 AM

I’ve opened the links fine, but haven’t yet had a chance to listen (bad speakers at work), so I’ll let you know a bit later how I liked her, OK?

Sure, but I wouldn’t worry about the sound quality on those, they’re uploaded by VEVO which, as far as I’m concerned, is an automatic indication that the quality is going to be crap anyway.  In fact, I had to pump-up the Windows volume as well as the Flash player volume to get any decent levels out of it (typical of their lame quality uploads).


On the plus side, at least you can play them out of this country, I’m quite surprised at that on a VEVO upload.

 

Mustakettu85 - 10 July 2012 11:57 AM

*frowns* Hey don’t forget there’s an actual woman in the thread, OK…


Unfortunately, most women’s careers are indeed dependent on their looks. Triply unfortunately that it happens in music. But I believe that in a few centuries’ time, history will sort everything out…


...(a totally amazing person and, for those who have a superficial appreciation of women, a beautiful one)

Don’t mind me, I’m not anywhere near as shallow as some people think I am.  Believe me, I’m probably the last guy on this earth who would have only a superficial attraction to women.  Personality is the most important aspect, always, it’s just that I prefer how women acted, dressed, did their hair, and wore their makeup back in the 60’s and 70’s.  I’m only in my thirties, but even so, I still prefer the retro thing over anything of today’s values.


That video Allibaba posted, the one with Natalia Avelon is a perfect example.  That was the most enjoyment I got out of a track in a very long time, not just because of her, but because it worked really well the way the visual and music matched.  A very retro woman singing a retro track, even though the woman is one of today’s women (she’s not actually a 70’s pinup, she’s a 20th century pinup made better by being retro).


To me, “retro” means a time when women looked natural and feminine (like she does), not just feminine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpyZo7NTrSE

 

Mustakettu85 - 10 July 2012 11:57 AM

Lemmy also reminds me of Hawkwind, an awesome prog rock band (he started out with them actually). Their music is visual, touchable…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQQfBTIfKvU

I quite liked that Hawkwind piano track.

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