Jaderail - 29 June 2012 12:06 PM
You are right even here they are/were called Grunge Metal, it all depends on your point of view I think. Like you I have a wide range of taste because I grew up with the 70’s and 80’s stuff. But I always leaned toward Metal. My very first Bought for myself album (remember those old things?) was Black Sabbath’s Paranoid.
P.S. Thanks for the Warlock! I forgot all about them. OH!! Warlock, Dio, Ozzy, MetalHead, Metallica, Megadeth and so many others. I’m so ready to jam today!!
I was a cassette girl =) The only stuff you could buy on vinyl here was Soviet estrada =) You know, I just realised I don’t remember which was the first tape I bought…
And you’re welcome! I’m not that keen on Metallica and Megadeth, they sure have many great tracks, but somehow too mainstream for me =) My fave 80s thrash bands are Testament and Znöwhite - the latter had possibly the most idiotic album cover ever, but underneath it was a unique selection of melodic thrash with fiery female vocals… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWz83MSVCU
The most mindblowing stuff was that the band was formed by guys of - how to say it in a politically correct way? - African descent. Nicole Lee joined a bit later, she was white =)
pumeco - 29 June 2012 02:09 PM
@Musta’
Hell no, I don’t think of Indica as “Gothic” - lol
I just like that the band has a Gothic element to it (which is always a good thing in my opinion), making it a bit Goth-like. I liked the first one you posted of theirs better than the other two. The other band, Tik Tak, I thought had a more catchy track, but I didn’t like the act on either version.
just in case - I usually go as Kettu =) “the Fox”; “Mustakettu” is “Black fox”, i.e. silver fox
Ah, good then =) You should try some more early Indica stuff - the Kadonnut puutarha (Lost Garden) album in particular. I find 2007 to be their total pinnacle year, with genre-defying songs like Äänet, Noita, Mykkä... And awesome live performances, Jonsu’s voice was out of this world! Here is a 2007 live video, and while sound is not the best, I think it captures the atmosphere very well. The song gives me the chills every time. What is it about? Well, it’s like an observation of the futility of human language as compared to the harmonies of the Universe, something like that. Complex hardly translatable verse.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBcJ_uisq2k
As for Tiktak, you may like the more mature act more? =) They were about eighteen for this album (and the bilingual marketing ploy was over). I totally love the song and the video - the stories are different, again, but there’s that urban grit in both. Moreover, I’m synaesthetic, and this is one of those few vids where the colour scheme matches the one the music creates in my head, as well. And I love their stage outfits here, very street cred and bordering on Jrock.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezkx5caBLt8
pumeco - 29 June 2012 02:09 PM
One track I did like was the Charon track, Little Angel. It’s a bit clean to be what I’d call “Proper Goth”, but it came closest and was the best of the tracks you posted so far (for my tastes I mean).
True, Finnish stuff tends indeed to be slick and polished, even the most underground ones. I’ve heard some Finnish demos that felt more “complete” than some big label recordings from other countries.
I laughed out loud when I noticed how many of the albums I liked the sound of (from all over the civilised world) were mastered by Mika Jussila, a Finn.
pumeco - 29 June 2012 02:09 PM
Charon reminds me of Beyond the Void, one of my favourite Gothic bands, one I call “Proper Gothic”.
And they both reminded me of Fields of the Nephilim =) This is a popular sound. Well, popular in those close knit circles =) Here’s one more band drawing inspiration from somewhat similar sources: http://www.last.fm/music/Angeldark - from Spain
pumeco - 29 June 2012 02:09 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised if you’ve never heard of Beyond the Void, because for some reason I cannot understand, they have to be the most underrated Goth band in existence. Beyond the Void produce “melodic” Goth music and I think it’s totally unreal how little respect these guys get. I mean I can’t read music and stuff like that, but due to mixing I understand how music is put together and have my own idea of what “Proper Goth” music is.
Well I know why I haven’t heard of them before - for a non-Finnish band, they’re too new for me =) I only discover non-Finnish stuff of the last decade through people’s recommendations. Theirs is a finely executed brand of classic goth rock, thanks for the tracks!
And I can’t stress it enough that talent and skill have never been that important in show business! If you ask me, the better bands do tend to be those lesser known. Partly because A) bigger labels tend to sign simpler stuff because it’s supposed to appeal to a wider crowd; B) those labels tend to call the shots, and too often their “artistic direction” is detrimental to the band.
Look at Villieläin - a band few people know about even in Finland, even though they were signed to a major label. A label that assigned extra songwriters to the band to turn their songs into a concept-ish album based on a “horror faery tale”. The press did not know what to make of this - the music was too scary for kids, the lyrics they deemed too outlandish for adults… //Finland pays a lot of attention to lyrics// Bad reviews => bad promotion => bad sales => the band got kicked by that very label and effectively stopped making music together. Pity, they did some quite unique stuff.
This video is more about their rather outlandish visual identity than their music - it’s one of their most readily accessible songs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkNuG8Wmg5c
There should be “Uni” - a live snippet - in the “Related videos”, check it out if you’re into coloratura soprano voices… It’s one of those songs that were rewritten for the album (it became Veren silta)
OK, and just in case anyone is in for some local spice… Olga Arefieva is the queen of Russian underground music, blending reggae, cabaret and what not =) And I think this song only has two chords at best, it’s insaaaane =)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xHJDaZjtQU
