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What Is Going On With Carrara?
Posted: 02 February 2013 05:43 AM   [ Ignore ]
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It seems as if development has come to a grinding halt, people are leaving in droves, and little to no information is forth coming from anyone at Daz (although this is nothing new)

I am seriously beginning to wonder if it is worth my time and money to invest in Carrara related things (which seem few and far between at the moment) and I am beginning to wonder if I should look into another 3D application

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Posted: 02 February 2013 08:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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                  Its always a personal decision what one should do and Daz can make you wonder what the heck is going on…....but in the end it depends on what you want out of the software. Carrara can do nearly everything anything else can do out there . Some not as well and some as well but for the jack of all trades one application—its hard to beat. In its price range now you really only have blender (free) , animation master 79, Houdini Apprentice (noncommercial $99) for software that can do all the things that carrara can—-your next step is way up at Modo at 1200. then lightwave and so on.

                  As far as investing in assets for Carrara—-I think that is one of the issues for Daz with Carrara . They are a content company. They like, promote , workon , update daz studio as it has no real asset making capabilities while Carrara does and folks do use that capability instead of buying content to the degree that daz studio folks have to. So there are less things specific to Carrara but those are very good in general.

                  Is Carrara dead?——-DAZ is supposed to have something to say with Carrara in February (this one) at least that is what we have heard. What are they going to say—who knows? If I ran Daz—day one I would start a better communcation with their customers. They really need this. Its the single most glaring marketing opportunity they botch all the time by their silence. Just give folks a hint of your plans——progress etc hell put a disclaimer on every communication if you want to make your lawyers happy if need be——but really the silence is a bad thing.

(Daz—for a lesson on trying to run a better software company—-just spend a little time checking out Luxology makers of Modo—-There is no better user friendly , customer committed , community loving company on the planet. )

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Posted: 02 February 2013 09:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I have invested a lot of money in Carrara over the years, for the program and content, if they are going to shelve it, then I will have to look into another program but I would like to know what is going on with it first, Maybe they are going to release 8.5 who knows, I just don’t wish to invest anything more until I know for sure what is going to happen

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Posted: 02 February 2013 09:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Well—hey one bright spot for communication——have new TOS for forums a/o today. Smiles. Hey that’s a start.—-
Really- we all would not care so much if we did not think Carrara was not great. We know it is. We just want some words on the future and hopefully its good news.

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Posted: 02 February 2013 10:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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3dView - 02 February 2013 09:44 AM

Well—hey one bright spot for communication——have new TOS for forums a/o today. Smiles. Hey that’s a start.—-
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question  sorry did not understand this part.

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Posted: 02 February 2013 10:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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What’s going on with Carrara?
It’s busy rendering as we speak!!! wink
No… I’m worried too, CAD. Good to hear from you again - been a L O N G time, it seems.
Wish it were under better circumstances.
Okay, here goes.
We’ve all seen long periods of silence before from Daz.
They never seem to mean anything bad by it - and, when it’s all over, most of us understand why it is that they had to hold their tongues.
When there’s this much silence, it is obvious that it is forbidden territory to post to the forum - period.
So, that’s why they sent poor little Britney, Bless her heart - who likely doesn’t even have a clue to what’s going on. Doesn’t matter. She was sent to type in a one-liner and get out.

So far, whenever they return to the pages, we’re all happy to see them back and share in the new news of the day.
I, for one, truly hope that this is, once again, the case.

I must also point out, as opposition to some of your above points, however.
Every time they launch a new product in the store, so long as it’s not DS Materials, lights or cameras, it works for Carrara.

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Posted: 02 February 2013 10:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Even if DAZ decides to bring 8.5 out and end further develpoment or look for a buyer tomorrow, doesn’t mean that Monday if you try and open Carrara nothing will happen. As long as you can open and use Carrar, your investments are still viable.


I’ve always seen a low number of Carrara specific products in the store by DAZ. The plugin developers on the other hand seem to be fairly active. Even Fenric didn’t give up on Carrara- just the DAZ store.


So now we have two threads bitching about the possible end of Carrara- Yours and Manstan’s thread about leaving. I’ve already read one comment by a new user alarmed by the doom and gloom. These threads that rely on FUD and hyperbolic topic titles are a great way to grow the user base and possibly show DAZ that Carrara is viable. blank stare


I don’t mean to be harsh, and I’m no Pollyanna, but isn’t there a way to discuss these very valid issues without all the drama and doom and gloom as if the world were coming to an end? Do we really need two or three threads a month rehashing the same non-information again and again?


Edited to clarify second paragraph.

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Posted: 02 February 2013 10:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I was upon reading said new TOS, going to suggest merging your thread and ManStan’s to free up the first page for other subject matters,
EP thinking along the same lines I see!
Cho, just do it already tongue wink

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Posted: 02 February 2013 10:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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wendy♥catz - 02 February 2013 10:47 AM

I was upon reading said new TOS, going to suggest merging your thread and ManStan’s to free up the first page for other subject matters,
EP thinking along the same lines I see!
Cho, just do it already tongue wink

I see nothing different in the general code of conduct for the forums, it is exactly the same as it was in the previous version of the TOS.

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Posted: 02 February 2013 11:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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wendy♥catz - 02 February 2013 10:47 AM

I was upon reading said new TOS, going to suggest merging your thread and ManStan’s to free up the first page for other subject matters,
EP thinking along the same lines I see!
Cho, just do it already tongue wink

I see nothing different in the general code of conduct for the forums, it is exactly the same as it was in the previous version of the TOS.


Still not allowed to publish boobies?!? Dammit! shock

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Posted: 02 February 2013 11:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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evilproducer - 02 February 2013 11:05 AM
chohole - 02 February 2013 10:54 AM
wendy♥catz - 02 February 2013 10:47 AM

I was upon reading said new TOS, going to suggest merging your thread and ManStan’s to free up the first page for other subject matters,
EP thinking along the same lines I see!
Cho, just do it already tongue wink

I see nothing different in the general code of conduct for the forums, it is exactly the same as it was in the previous version of the TOS.


Still not allowed to publish boobies?!? Dammit! shock

Can too

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Posted: 02 February 2013 12:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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evilproducer - 02 February 2013 10:42 AM

Even if DAZ decides to bring 8.5 out and end further develpoment or look for a buyer tomorrow, doesn’t mean that Monday if you try and open Carrara nothing will happen. As long as you can open and use Carrar, your investments are still viable.


I’ve always seen a low number of Carrara specific products in the store by DAZ. The plugin developers on the other hand seem to be fairly active. Even Fenric didn’t give up on Carrara- just the DAZ store.


So now we have two threads bitching about the possible end of Carrara- Yours and Manstan’s thread about leaving. I’ve already read one comment by a new user alarmed by the doom and gloom. These threads that rely on FUD and hyperbolic topic titles are a great way to grow the user base and possibly show DAZ that Carrara is viable. blank stare


I don’t mean to be harsh, and I’m no Pollyanna, but isn’t there a way to discuss these very valid issues without all the drama and doom and gloom as if the world were coming to an end? Do we really need two or three threads a month rehashing the same non-information again and again?


Edited to clarify second paragraph.


100 percent in agreement!

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Posted: 02 February 2013 12:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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chohole - 02 February 2013 11:24 AM
evilproducer - 02 February 2013 11:05 AM
chohole - 02 February 2013 10:54 AM
wendy♥catz - 02 February 2013 10:47 AM

I was upon reading said new TOS, going to suggest merging your thread and ManStan’s to free up the first page for other subject matters,
EP thinking along the same lines I see!
Cho, just do it already tongue wink

I see nothing different in the general code of conduct for the forums, it is exactly the same as it was in the previous version of the TOS.


Still not allowed to publish boobies?!? Dammit! shock

Can too

Those are nice boobies. wink

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Posted: 02 February 2013 03:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I’m not too worried about the end of Carrara.
As long as stuff keeps coming out for Gen4 (or at least that doesn’t require Genesis) I will be in good shape.
The marketplace here and at Rendo are full of items I have yet to buy.

Fenric is still lurking about, as are Howie Farkes, and a few others.

I’m in good shape for now.

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Posted: 02 February 2013 05:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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tsarist - 02 February 2013 03:31 PM

I’m not too worried about the end of Carrara.
As long as stuff keeps coming out for Gen4 (or at least that doesn’t require Genesis) I will be in good shape.
The marketplace here and at Rendo are full of items I have yet to buy.

Fenric is still lurking about, as are Howie Farkes, and a few others.

I’m in good shape for now.

Amen, my friend!
Even if they make some sort of permanent SN for 8.5, Genesis at least works in Carrara. Otherwise, They are putting out fresh content for us nearly every day wink

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Posted: 02 February 2013 06:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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“doesn’t mean that Monday if you try and open Carrara nothing will happen”

Erm over the past few months we have been recieving expiring serial codes for Carrara 8.5? to me that doesn’t exactly seem to to rule out the possibility that one monday opening Carrara will do nothing. I would feel a lot better if Daz released new builds insead of saying “you’re allowed to play with our software untill such and such date” atleast then if something did happen I could still use an old beta of Carrara 8.5.

I use genesis a lot and if one day the Carrara 8.5 serial expires for good my money will have been wasted and my plans utterly squashed. I hope that Daz doesn’t plan on keeping us all waiting too long for that February announcement.

 

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