Digital Art Zone

Yup, I have zero interest in this thing. I really wish Daz would dump the exe’s altogether and just use zip files.

hi shawn bro glad to meet ya here,i bet its cold in canada..i knew somehow you would agree with me lol.

i spend more time searching for something i dont have already and where i can use my voucher on.before the one was able to use the voucher on all items except pc of course.

renecyberdoc - 01 February 2013 11:30 PM

hi shawn bro glad to meet ya here,i bet its cold in canada..i knew somehow you would agree with me lol.

Of course I agree with you bro lol! I don’t mind the idea of a download manager, TESNexus uses one for it’s mod content and it works just fine, but Games like Skyrim/Oblivion and whatnot have very definite default directories. Daz content tends to wind up all over the place.

Cold here? Nah, not anymore. It jumped from -25c to +1 as of right now….whups, I lie, it’s 0c right now.

DAZ_Spooky - 01 February 2013 03:58 PM

Russ Sprouse - 01 February 2013 03:51 PM

Where do we find this “Install Manager?”

You still have to wait until it is actually released.

any launch date?

this month, next month, around summer, next year,...?

Question: is it possible to use it just for downloading?
And then installing (renaming folders and so on) myself?
Will it find updated files in this case?

Edited: default C:\ - are you kidding? My c:\ drive is an SSD ... and I am sure I am not the only person to have an SSD for C: and a “normal” harddrive as D:\ for content.

its in any case a brilliant stupoid idea to install such things on as sytem drive wether it is ssd or not.the system drive belongs to my system and to applications which definitely need to have it on c drive..
but i dont allow software toduse this drive.
i am doing this since 20 years and i have not lost a single important file if i recall right.
even when my system crashes i build up another one reinstall my applications (core base) and can use my own stuff (runtime,filters,whatever) like if nothing has happened.

Alisa Uh-Lisa - 01 February 2013 08:24 PM

I’ve absolutely ZERO interest in this, because I want to control what and where all my content goes. 

So my question is this - is there any plan to fix the download mess that’s been in existence since the new site started, where we can’t select JUST windows or JUST mac stuff, and where finding something to redownload is a bit of a challenge?  Or is this new shiny toy going to mean “use it or tough luck”?

The content will move to zips, as I understand it - that was publicly stated some time ago - so there won’t be mac and Windows files, just a single zip.

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Note that a default path is the one that appears when the thing is first run - Spooky said, on the first page, that users could use a different path if they wished and although I don’t think he specified I imagine it will remember the last path used or even keep a list of paths, so once you have told it not to use the C: drive or the Shared folder it should not do so.

Richard Haseltine - 02 February 2013 08:54 AM

Alisa Uh-Lisa - 01 February 2013 08:24 PM

I’ve absolutely ZERO interest in this, because I want to control what and where all my content goes. 

So my question is this - is there any plan to fix the download mess that’s been in existence since the new site started, where we can’t select JUST windows or JUST mac stuff, and where finding something to redownload is a bit of a challenge?  Or is this new shiny toy going to mean “use it or tough luck”?

The content will move to zips, as I understand it - that was publicly stated some time ago - so there won’t be mac and Windows files, just a single zip.
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Thanks - I have to admit I have almost no faith in what Daz does and says anymore, So many things are messed up since this new site came out and there have been so many promises of things that will improve that haven’t, so I’ve just about given up hope that anything will become better.  If they keep with their word and DO start using zips (which we were told a year ago would happen), that will be nice. 

But what worries me is that EVERY other store uses zip files and they don’t require a download and installation manager to install them.  So I have major fears that something about this new installation manager will mess things up for those not using it :(

creativemodelsbe - 02 February 2013 03:50 AM

DAZ_Spooky - 01 February 2013 03:58 PM

Russ Sprouse - 01 February 2013 03:51 PM

Where do we find this “Install Manager?”

You still have to wait until it is actually released.

any launch date?

this month, next month, around summer, next year,...?

Yes there is a launch date. No I am not going to announce it.

Why is it advised against installing to the folder where our content is currently located? 

How does this work for those of us who use Poser and do not keep our content in the DAZ Studio structure?  (My Documents / DAZ 3D/ Studio / My Library / Runtime) 

Will the DAZ install manager have the option to install content in the Poser Runtime structure rather than the DAZ Studio structure?  I don’t use DAZ Studio so don’t want my 3D Content folder cluttered with the DAZ Studio folders (Animals, Camera Presets, data, DAZ Studio Tutorials, Figures, Light Presets, Lights, People, Poses, Presets, Props, ReadMes, RTR, Scenes, Scripts, Shader Presets, Shaders, Uninstallers) when all I need is the Runtime folder.

I’m pretty sure content will be installed in that DAZ Studio structure, so I doubt I’ll want to install content through the DAZ Install Manager to my Runtimes.  I’m sure it’s going to require as much (if not more) cleanup as the zip files do, and it’s far better to do that in a temp folder. 

I can see where this will make things easier on those who don’t want to control how their content is organized, but it doesn’t seem to be flexible enough for those of us who don’t use DAZ Studio.

DAZ_Spooky - 01 February 2013 03:57 PM

First: That is the default path, and as stated by mjc1016, better agrees with the EULA.
Second: While it is the default path, there is no requirement to use the default path, if for some reason that path does not suit.
Third: If a item of content is using absolute paths, it is broken, and needs to be reported in the bug tracker. All Content should be using relative paths.

Alisa Uh-Lisa - 02 February 2013 11:57 AM

Richard Haseltine - 02 February 2013 08:54 AM

Alisa Uh-Lisa - 01 February 2013 08:24 PM

I’ve absolutely ZERO interest in this, because I want to control what and where all my content goes. 

So my question is this - is there any plan to fix the download mess that’s been in existence since the new site started, where we can’t select JUST windows or JUST mac stuff, and where finding something to redownload is a bit of a challenge?  Or is this new shiny toy going to mean “use it or tough luck”?

The content will move to zips, as I understand it - that was publicly stated some time ago - so there won’t be mac and Windows files, just a single zip.
.

Thanks - I have to admit I have almost no faith in what Daz does and says anymore, So many things are messed up since this new site came out and there have been so many promises of things that will improve that haven’t, so I’ve just about given up hope that anything will become better.  If they keep with their word and DO start using zips (which we were told a year ago would happen), that will be nice. 

But what worries me is that EVERY other store uses zip files and they don’t require a download and installation manager to install them.  So I have major fears that something about this new installation manager will mess things up for those not using it :(

The only issue with the zips we have so far is that everything is in a folder called Content - butt hen, Renderosity and a lot of freebie makers do that too. The Install Manager is an option, not something you have to use if you want to get all butch hauling the files around (as I usually do).

I for one would use such a product it will help in keeping your products updated like plugins as there updated.
as far as using a different install path we all have different veiws of where to install to.i can add another library or merge existing
with this product the way it looks. i for one use PzDB for my content search anyway much easier to find what im looking for.
if it helps keeping my products updated im fine with it.

Kerya - 02 February 2013 03:57 AM

Question: is it possible to use it just for downloading?
And then installing (renaming folders and so on) myself?
Will it find updated files in this case?

Edited: default C:\ - are you kidding? My c:\ drive is an SSD ... and I am sure I am not the only person to have an SSD for C: and a “normal” harddrive as D:\ for content.

From looking at the videos downloading and installing are on separate tabs so I’m thinking it should be possible but would also like confirmation that it is definitely possible. I also have an ssd drive and my content is on an external hard drive I would still like to know myself if it is possible to use an external hard drive in conjunction with it. There is no way I will install it on my c drive…but I’m interested if I can use it with an external drive.

Spooky has already confirmed that the default path can be changed.