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Posing problem with long-skirted gowns (V4)
Posted: 01 January 2013 01:03 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Been a while since I was last here, but I’ve got a problem that’s frustrating me. I can’t seem to apply a pose to a V4 figure that’s wearing a long-skirted gown without having the entire leg and foot poke through the gown, and I haven’t so far been able to find a way to adjust the gown to properly cover the leg; it makes it look like a side-slit gown, but that’s exactly the problem - the outfit is not a side-slit gown. Hiding the leg and foot isn’t a wholly satisfactory solution, I want to have the gown skirt move out to suggest the position of the legs underneath.  Here are some sample pictures I’ve taken of the problem; the specific outfit in these images is the new V4 Benefit Gala Gown but the problem is applicable to any other outfit with a long skirt (the other outfit I’ve tried so far is Powerage’s Vendome gown). 

As you can see, the skirt is especially badly out of position in the fourth and fifth images. I really don’t think it’s supposed to behave like that but I’m not sure what to do to fix it because I can’t find anything in the “Parameters” menu that works to get the skirt back into proper position.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 01:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Usually theer are either extra bones attached to the hip of the dress, or morphs in the hip (and possibly on the root), or both. You need to use those to adjust the way the skirt hangs - there isn’t an automatic process. In Poser you can also make the skirt dynamic, if it is modelled suitably.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 01:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Long dresses were designed to only fit some poses. Turning off the visability of thighs and shins helps in some cases but not all. Also check the dress for built in morphs that can help.

EDIT: Think it is supposed to be TIGHT fitting and not let the wearer pose like you have shown.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 02:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Do you not have any “handles” for the dress, sometimes found in the Hip section on the parameter tabs.

can you give us a link to the gown.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 02:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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chohole - 01 January 2013 02:23 PM

Do you not have any “handles” for the dress, sometimes found in the Hip section on the parameter tabs.

can you give us a link to the gown.

The gown is actually a pretty old one, it used to be at RDNA but is no longer there. I’m also trying to use Powerage’s Vendome gown, so maybe it will be more useful if I post you the link to that one:

http://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/vendome-dress-for-as-alice-gnd4/61222


The poses are from ironman13’s Pose Revoultion, Desperado, Girls with Guns and Halcyone’s Killer.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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As I have stated before, the dresses shown are not real cloth, they are 3D Mesh files that will never work in DS the way you want them too. The Meshes were not ment to work this way and were designed for poses as seen in the promo renders for the item only. They will not fit this pose set in DS and were never ment to be used the way you wish that they would.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Was just going to say the same.  The Powerage one in particular, you notice in his promos that he only uses very static, standing poses.

This dress is meant to be a very form fitting dress, and anyone wearing it would not be able to move the way you want your 3d model to move. They have to be very ladylike, and move with tiny, gentile steps.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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chohole - 01 January 2013 03:08 PM

Was just going to say the same.  The Powerage one in particular, you notice in his promos that he only uses very static, standing poses.

This dress is meant to be a very form fitting dress, and anyone wearing it would not be able to move the way you want your 3d model to move. They have to be very ladylike, and move with tiny, gentile steps.

Maybe…but then again, maybe not!  This is what I came up with for those five poses when I found the “Adjust Dress” menu in the Parameters menu and applied various things such as Back/Left/Right Bend and Back/Left/Right Side-Side, as well as manipulating the legs and (once) hiding the right leg:


Looks like (once again) I answered my own question, at least as far as the Vendome gown goes. (embarrassed smile ) The Benefit Gala gown seems to be quite old, anyway, as it doesn’t appear to have an “Adjust Dress” submenu. Vendome appears to be much more versatile.

 

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I did say check the dress for Morphs. Glad your up and running. Happy rendering and New Year.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Gala has 4 skirt handles under Skirt in the scene tab.


There are also two morphs accessible under Parameters. They are under Morphs Skirt and they are Flare-skirt and Skirt-lift.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Pendraia - 01 January 2013 03:29 PM

Gala has 4 skirt handles under Skirt in the scene tab.


There are also two morphs accessible under Parameters. They are under Morphs Skirt and they are Flare-skirt and Skirt-lift.

OK, thanks!

EDIT: Problem solved. :D Using the skirt handles, this is what I came up with for one of the “Girls with Guns” poses.

 

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Gala has 4 skirt handles under Skirt in the scene tab.


There are also two morphs accessible under Parameters. They are under Morphs Skirt and they are Flare-skirt and Skirt-lift.

OK, thanks!

EDIT: Problem solved. :D Using the skirt handles, this is what I came up with for one of the “Girls with Guns” poses.

 

Glad it worked…it can be confusing when you first start as things are sometimes in different spots.

 

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Posted: 01 January 2013 03:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Pendraia - 01 January 2013 03:29 PM

Gala has 4 skirt handles under Skirt in the scene tab.


There are also two morphs accessible under Parameters. They are under Morphs Skirt and they are Flare-skirt and Skirt-lift.

OK, thanks!

EDIT: Problem solved. :D Using the skirt handles, this is what I came up with for one of the “Girls with Guns” poses.

 

Glad it worked…it can be confusing when you first start as things are sometimes in different spots.

Agreed. Just to prove I could do it again, I redid four more poses using the skirt handles:

I think I’m going to go with the Vendome gown after all for this character in the upcoming project, I just like the look better. (As you might have guessed from the poses, it’s going to be an action story. Got me some very nice firearms models that I can’t wait to try…)  Come to think of it, what I’ve learned may also prove the solution to that problem with the boots from the Steampunk Saloon set that was bugging me back in November.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 04:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Great to hear that you have it sorted! Good luck with your story…

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Posted: 01 January 2013 04:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Pendraia - 01 January 2013 04:42 PM

Great to hear that you have it sorted! Good luck with your story…

Thanks! Now what I need to do is to find evening purses or handbags that go with formal outfits and that are large enough (or can be scaled up to the proper size and still look good) to hold weapons and other gear. (Thinking of the kind of nice purse that a femme fatale in an evening gown like the two in this thread would keep her pistol in… wink )

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Posted: 01 January 2013 04:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Well for formal dress typical scenario is with a small pistol that would fit in a clutch or inside thigh holster.

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