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Posted: 30 December 2012 11:15 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I am unable to find more DMC files. and I am not sure if they can be made.by me. I read the pdf and yes you can create a NLA for a audio file but without a DMC don’t you have to build each file to the audio ? any info is good info!

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Posted: 30 December 2012 12:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Hi Gaffer smile

With Mimic for Carrara, you can create your own NLA poses for the facial / vocal expressions and associate those with Vocal sounds, so that mimic analyses the sound and creates the lipsync according to how you set up the NLA poses to the sounds.

You’d normally only need to create the NLA poses once for your character, and then save the file,. and the NLA clips/poses will be saved with it,... the NLA poses can also be saved separately to your clips folder in the browser (or a folder for that character),.

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Posted: 30 December 2012 12:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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No way! That’s too freakin’ cool! Thanks 3dage!
So, if I’m reading this right, it’s an NLA Master Pose that you save, or a clip - which is it?
Then you only save info for the head?
Where did you come to learn this?

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Posted: 30 December 2012 01:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Hi Dartanbeck smile

yes,. you save an NLA Pose,. for each vocal shape, like OOh,. Ch, Aah,  etc..
then get mimic to analyse the sound, and it adds your NLA poses to the time-line to make the lip-sync.

As with any automated processes, there will be some refinement and adjustment needed to get things right. but it’s a Big, time-saver.

It’s all in the Mimic for Carrara manual (PDF)

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Posted: 30 December 2012 01:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Dartanbeck just got a step closer to finishing his epic! wink

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I find it somewhat liberating not to be encumbered by accuracy.

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Posted: 30 December 2012 06:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Right. I was planning to be in the studio with two other voice actors by now, but I got busy with masonry work. Now I haven’t had nearly as much time with Carrara as I wanted - but soon I’m taking the time to get some of this done. I’ll have to search for that manual. Didn’t even know I had one! lol

Thanks, Big Time!

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Posted: 31 December 2012 10:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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After creating voice expressions, is there a way of saving them as DMC files?

I have Mimic Pro, which appears to save DMC files, but for the live of me I can figure out how to use it.

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Posted: 31 December 2012 10:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I believe that the Mimic Pro (stand alone version) pdf manual has good instructions on how this is done - If I remember correctly, you use Mimic to go through each sound and expression and set it up in there. When you’ve finished (at least for the day), you can export or save the DMC file from the Mimic menu. It’s been forever since I’ve read it. I downloaded the manual years ago to see what you do with it. Impressive software, that!

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Posted: 31 December 2012 11:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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In Mimic Pro (stand alone) you should have an option on the FILE menu, to “Save configuration file” (DMC) (see pic)

This allows you to add or change the morphs used in the Phonemes and visemes to suit your customised Daz3D figure.

In Mimic for Carrara,. once you set up the poses to be used for vocal sounds, your Carrara Character and it’s Mimic settings can be saved as a Scene or as an Object (animated group) and will load with all the mimic settings and NLA poses. 

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Posted: 31 December 2012 12:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Thanks for that, 3dage!

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Posted: 31 December 2012 01:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Thanks 3DAge.

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Posted: 01 January 2013 11:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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thanks 3Dage and every body else I found it easier to make the DMC on mimic and use it in carrara! anyone want a DMC file for Sledge? from Sixus1 ?

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Posted: 01 January 2013 12:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Mimic, that’s the question
when I approached seriously carrara since 2008, I intended to use it for professional animation because I had understood the potential, well after three years I am more than ever convinced that I am right: the only reason holding me back is the facial animation of daz characters plus mimic as well that are far from being usable (hope I’m wrong): everything that is still to be improved in carrara does not scare me, not the bags nor weight maps or hair or dinamic clothes or some animation lacks or anything like that, but the facial animation is an obstacle too difficult to overcome because it inheres a part of the reality we know too well, the human face and its expressions. my hope for daz and carrara is to seriously address this issue because it is essential for those who want to use them professionally.
about the rest professionals are ready to work on it imo,  but facial animation need to have additional basic starting points from which they can move forward

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Posted: 01 January 2013 04:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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magnito? wharever, if you have carrara and mimic
you can create morphs in carrara save the file open it in mimic pro ajust the morphs to the Phonems ( happy new year Im smashed) and the n apply the DMC file to the charitor in carrara trust me it works! don’t be pesomistic!!

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Posted: 01 January 2013 04:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I’m not under the infuence of alchol as some thikle peep i am!!

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Posted: 02 January 2013 02:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I was astonished that a saved Poser talk designer (animation) file actually renders in Carrara with proper lip sync. Wish I thought of testing this earlier…  So if you don’t own Mimic for Carrara or have the DMC file for characters like Miki and company, here is another workaround.

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