Digital Art Zone

 
   
9 of 18
9
OK, DAZ, seriously, what’s going on?
Posted: 31 December 2012 09:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 121 ]
Active Member
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  691
Joined  2008-02-22

It’s not there yet, I was waiting on Britney to add it…ala customer support.

 Signature 

+800 or so old forum posts, just so you know I’m not a newb!  tongue laugh

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 10:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 122 ]
Addict
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  6476
Joined  2007-12-04

Ah… Okay.
Britney totally ROCKS, doesn’t she? She’ll have your CPU heating up that sink in no time!

On another note entirely,
I made a rude, laughing comment last night which prevented me from sleeping - which is bad for a manual labor intense job. I’m home with a broken toe as we speak. Nonetheless, I should really have gotten my sleepless arse out of bed and made this reply then… and I’d probably slept just fine, except that I also plagued myself with an exciting new Carrara product idea… at least my adrenaline is totally cranked, and I have a couple of day to just Carrara Out!!! Yaaaaay! And now on with my reply:

It was mentioned that, with the up-and-coming particle system for DS, it may something or other take away the big advantage that Carrara has over DS… different words, but you get my drift… and I laughed at the notion. Well I feel that I owe everyone reading that a big fat apology

For a Carrara nut like myself, it would be a very doubtful switch. But if I think about it, If I were in a situation where money prevented me from getting Carrara, I strongly feel that one of the Best options on the table right now - in the entire realm of 3d CGI, using Poser/DS figures and their accessories, has to be the incredible Daz3d software bundle - which is (really? Thanks Daz!) currently FREE!
Especially for those who have already purchased any one of those packages (or more), there’s no wasted investment there - because the worth entirely and immensely outweighs the expense. Here’s my point.
In that bundle, the 3d artist now has complete access to:

Daz Studio 4.5 Pro
Utilizing an ingenious use of the latest SubD benefits, the new Daz models are a true step into a fresh, incredibly powerful set of tools and products to achieve amazing art without any other software, whatsoever.
Oh… one of the things that drove me in the direction of Carrara in the first place, is that Poser didn’t have a good way of modeling 3d meshes - that I was aware of,anyways. Well Daz Studio connects flawlessly (on my machines) to:

Hexagon
A powerful and easy to use modeler who’s bridge to Daz Studio was so well designed that it must be the absolute most efficient method on the planet to create custom assets for use in either Poser or Daz3d. With Daz Studio Pro’s content tools and this exceptional mesh maker/tweaker, the artists capabilities just went far beyond what many others can do with such little hassle.

Bryce 7 Pro
Really? I get to add this baby to the list? Where do I begin. I guess it’s hard to for me. With Carrara, I never had to try and wrap my head around what it is that you do in this interface to get something into fruition. But I do have some Master Series products that will introduce me and get me going when the time is right.
Seeing what so many others have done with Bryce truly speaks for itself about the power that you have as a 3d artist with this software. And there are plenty of products available to keep this tool around for decades - truly. It, too has a DS bridge. Again… I don’t have the slightest idea what this lets you do… but I’m sure it makes everything even that much more exciting.

Now let’s not forget Poser - because Poser is huge for a good reason. I really enjoyed my stint in it, and it really is the blaming factor for getting into this maddening hobby/profession to start with. Max came first… but Poser was more fun! smile (I truly have more fun in everything mentioned above over Max, but Max is definitely the choice for those looking for an apprenticeship in a 3d lab)
The Daz3d Software bundle opens up huge possibilities for the Poser artist as well. If I were using Poser as my movie clip render softy, I could use Bryce to make panoramic globes. Poser doesn’t like it so much if you build the entire surrounding horizon (if it has to be vast) with vast numbers of polys. Panoramic globes are a great solution. I could (and would) use DS > Hex > DS > CR2 to create my custom movement morphs in clothes and hair. The possibilities go on and on…

For me, there’s no place like home. And I live in Carrara. But the Daz3d bundle - especially because of Daz’s own baby, Daz | Studio Pro - is a great set of tools to accomplish the entire needs of a 3d CGI movie, painting, comic, novel cover… whatever you want - all with the aid of the amazing Daz artists.

In all, I take it back - and apologize. red face

 Signature 

Dartanbeck @ Daz3d          Check out the Carrara Cafe          ►►►  Carrara Information Manual   ◄◄◄

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 11:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 123 ]
Power Member
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  1825
Joined  2004-08-24

Joe smile

Currently I’m not a well as I could be,. but thanks for asking smile

I’m not attacking anyone personally,.  NB: (Don’t attack the messenger)

I’m simply contradicting the information which you’re posting, because it’s actually misinformation. or speculation
neither of which should be taken seriously.

The problem is that it’s very easy for misinformation like this, to become the fuel for further rumours.


Happy new year (hogmanay) to all smile

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 11:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 124 ]
Addict
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  8511
Joined  2009-07-13

Happy New year Andy and hope you get better (hugs)

I do not gush as much as Dart but love my Carrara, get MORE issues with other apps!
one I will not name, has STILL not implimented the facial animation for Daz characters they promised a year ago.

I killed my smart content unfortunately by reinstalling 172, went back to 149 but it is gone
can still import Genesis stuff and a lot of .duf scenes from studio and mimic works on Genesis so no huge loss.
everything else works well.
even my saved file sizes have reduced dramatically so no idea what caused that issue.

 Signature 

WARNING do not click tongue rolleye what video horrors will be seen if you do cannot be unseen.
my render thread
        never forget
A Drows Walk
Jaderail is at it again

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 11:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 125 ]
Member
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  193
Joined  2007-03-03

Carrara is a great program, that much isn’t in doubt.  It’s potential is, in my opinion, unlimited.  The limiting factor is DAZ.  Part of the issue is, as has been mentioned before, DAZ did not write Carrara and very little of the original dev team is still with it (if any).  Carrara could probably use a rebuild from the ground up, but that is prohibitively expensive and time consuming. 

I agree with Stan about our value to DAZ as customers.  It’s not like we haven’t been patient.  Our criticisms aren’t because we don’t like Carrara or DAZ, we want to improve them.  We’re their biggest supporters, and yet we’re being ignored.  It’s more than frustrating, it’s downright insulting at times.  When you say a new beta is coming out in a couple of days and then 5 months later it still isn’t out, someone has some ‘splainin to do.

 Signature 

-Kodiak3d

“I wonder what tomorrow has in mind for me, or am I even in its mind at all?”
- “Crystal Ball” by Styx

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 11:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 126 ]
Power Member
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  1825
Joined  2004-08-24

HI Wendy smile  thanks smile

The Smart content issue is probably due to the CMS and Daz studio, rather than carrara,. since carrara only reads the data (if the CMS is running) and if the database has been updated by running DS once to get it to add any new items to the Database.

This is one of the programming hurdles in getting Carrara working with genesis and the smart content,... without having Daz studio installed.

Run task manager,. (Ctrl+Alt+Del) and go to the “Services” tab, then look in the list for (Daz Content management Service)
If it’s not there , it’s not running,...

You should have some options in the “Start menu” / All Programs / Daz3D / DAZ Content management Service /
where you can start and stop the service.

It should be starting at system Boot up,. and if it’s not,, it could be due to Firewall, or even A/V software stopping it, so it’s worth checking that your Firewall is allowing the service to run.

Hope it helps. smile

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 12:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 127 ]
Active Member
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  546
Joined  2003-10-09

As has been said before, good luck getting most of the big companies to respond to you. Autodesk - forget it. Newtek - forget it. Adobe - forget it. Even little ole messiah - forget it. SmithMicro - only when they want to. Be happy you can save tons of money at DAZ. If you’re not saving tons of money, go figure it out. Besides, every time someone from DAZ comes here and does say something, most of the time it seems, they get treated with rude behavior.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 12:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 128 ]
Active Member
Avatar
RankRank
Total Posts:  546
Joined  2003-10-09

Oh, Kodiak. Please don’t say rebuild. That’s is the very last thing we need. Broken code and stuff where you can’t find it. Nope. Seen it all before with other programs. Not good. Better to show people how to do tons of stuff they haven’t figured out yet.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 12:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 129 ]
Addict
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  6476
Joined  2007-12-04
Kodiak3D - 31 December 2012 11:29 AM

Carrara is a great program, that much isn’t in doubt.  It’s potential is, in my opinion, unlimited.  The limiting factor is DAZ.  Part of the issue is, as has been mentioned before, DAZ did not write Carrara and very little of the original dev team is still with it (if any).  Carrara could probably use a rebuild from the ground up, but that is prohibitively expensive and time consuming. 

I agree with Stan about our value to DAZ as customers.  It’s not like we haven’t been patient.  Our criticisms aren’t because we don’t like Carrara or DAZ, we want to improve them.  We’re their biggest supporters, and yet we’re being ignored.  It’s more than frustrating, it’s downright insulting at times.  When you say a new beta is coming out in a couple of days and then 5 months later it still isn’t out, someone has some ‘splainin to do.

I really hear ya, Kodiak.And I totally feel the frustration - don’t get me wrong. None of my rants are an attempt to wrong your words.
But I am of the fullest confidence that this silence is driving them nuts too. I know that the Spook and Bruce, Pierre and the others love what they do - and they really are capable at keeping us in a strong and healthy Carrara. They di just rebuild it from the ground up. That’s Carrara 8.1 which had to be rewritten in order to make a 64 bit offering - from what I am told. Silence can come from many sources and, while it can be frustrating - sometimes it’s the only choice.

You rock, Kodiak…
You’ve been here much longer than me, and I’ve enjoyed many of your posts.
This is just me, putting in my thoughts on the subject.
Carrara rocks, too - but I, for one, think that it’s here to stay. smile

 Signature 

Dartanbeck @ Daz3d          Check out the Carrara Cafe          ►►►  Carrara Information Manual   ◄◄◄

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 12:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 130 ]
Member
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  193
Joined  2007-03-03

Well, Dartanbeck, I’m just hoping that all this silence leads to something truly impressive.  Like I said earlier, I think we’re going to see 8.5 and 9 get released at the same time, with 8.5 costing next to nothing and adding only Genesis functionality.  As for 9, I dunno what they would add, but I have a list of things I’m hoping for grin

 Signature 

-Kodiak3d

“I wonder what tomorrow has in mind for me, or am I even in its mind at all?”
- “Crystal Ball” by Styx

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 12:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 131 ]
Addict
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  6476
Joined  2007-12-04
Kodiak3D - 31 December 2012 12:43 PM

Well, Dartanbeck, I’m just hoping that all this silence leads to something truly impressive.  Like I said earlier, I think we’re going to see 8.5 and 9 get released at the same time, with 8.5 costing next to nothing and adding only Genesis functionality.  As for 9, I dunno what they would add, but I have a list of things I’m hoping for grin

I really, Really REALLY think that “Impressive” is what we’ll get. Not from the silence… but…

 Signature 

Dartanbeck @ Daz3d          Check out the Carrara Cafe          ►►►  Carrara Information Manual   ◄◄◄

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 03:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 132 ]
Power Member
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  1108
Joined  2007-10-15
3DAGE - 31 December 2012 11:04 AM

I’m simply contradicting the information which you’re posting, because it’s actually misinformation. or speculation neither of which should be taken seriously.

Andy, I WILL respond to this because it questions my intent, and implies that I would post deliberate misinformation, neither of which I will accept.

Andy, let me just say that, as far as I can tell from your diatribe, you are absolutely, totally, without exception, misreading and misunderstanding everything I posted that you questioned. Everything. Perhaps it was because I was unclear, but far more likely is you were intentionally looking for ways to disagree with and/or discredit me.

I could give you a line by line explanation, backed up with examples, but knowing you that would be totally useless. Unfortunately, I think it’s clear that your intent is not to get at the issues, it’s to discredit me personally. Clearly evidenced by the fact that you let a bunch of others speculate about the same subject, but didn’t once attempt to call them village idiots. 

I am NOT saying I’m right about it all, I’m just saying that it is based many years of experience, it is NOT misinformation, and it has a rational, well thought out basis for all of it.

I’m sorry I angered you at some point, but if you really care about discussing issues rationally, I suggest that instead of implying others are village idiots, you re-read what I posted, respecting (if that’s possible) that I do have many years of experience with this stuff, and try to really understand the intent of what I posted.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 03:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 133 ]
Member
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  193
Joined  2007-03-03

Joe, he never said any of it was deliberate, just that it was wrong.  He never made any statement about your intentions.  You’re taking this stuff too personally.

 Signature 

-Kodiak3d

“I wonder what tomorrow has in mind for me, or am I even in its mind at all?”
- “Crystal Ball” by Styx

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 04:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 134 ]
Power Member
Avatar
RankRankRank
Total Posts:  1108
Joined  2007-10-15
Kodiak3D - 31 December 2012 03:55 PM

Joe, he never said any of it was deliberate, just that it was wrong.  He never made any statement about your intentions.  You’re taking this stuff too personally.

Thanks, Kodiak. Great input.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 31 December 2012 04:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 135 ]
Member
Rank
Total Posts:  142
Joined  2005-05-21

I have no idea why some opinions are valued here, and others aren’t. Reason doesn’t seem to hold much sway, as far as I can tell, just interpersonal stye, which is remains a mystery to those of us without inherent real-life interpersonal skills.

Carrara is just software. It’s not going to feed the poor or heal the sick. Its purpose is to make its owner corporation richer through some (in this case, apparently arcane) path. If it dies, I’ll use it until I need something else or it stops working. NBD. It’s not worth getting upset and “yelling” at people over.

Clearly I need to stop reading these “OMG it’s going to die” threads. I think I keep hoping there might be some useful information in them, but they’re more like stopping to watch a fistfight. Somewhere along the way I stopped liking the Carrara forum, I guess.

Have a good New Year. Try not to let a for-profit company hold so much power over your chill, OK? Cheers.

Profile
 
 
   
9 of 18
9