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What toon figures do you use on Genesis?
Posted: 13 December 2012 09:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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First of all, what are your search terms that are finding all of this on DA, or is this a group you’re watching?  It would be nice to be able to at least survey what’s there. I’m not targeting the “anime copyright violation” market, which is a lot of DA’s toon renders that I’ve seen.  I know there are also some there by really outstanding renderers like Mattymanx that use more stylized characters in original scenes, though.


On the macro breasts and alternate modeling issue:


That’s asking me to do a lot of extra work to support something that 1. I don’t care for and 2. no other artist really supports.  I’m fine with people liking big breasts, even giant ones, but I’m not going to spend the hours looking at them that it would take to support them (pun intended). 


I do support the PBMBreastsCleavage morph on outfits with necklines low enough for that to be relevant now, and occasionally the Heavy and Large ones.  That’s about as far as I’m prepared to go.  I categorically refuse to mess with V5’s silly weird-shaped breast collection.


I’m sorry more people haven’t shown interest in Asobi.  She’s very pretty and doesn’t cause the AUGH KILL IT WITH FIRE reaction I feel toward the really chibis. :-D

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Posted: 13 December 2012 10:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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cwichura - 13 December 2012 08:26 PM

  I don’t think the folks creating the super-ginormous breast renders even want clothing to cover them, even if the clothing existed.  (And let’s face it, those renders are always topless because there isn’t any clothing that would fit them unless they’ve made it themselves.)

That is one of the beauty’s of genesis, i can nearly get any top to fit genesis and if not perfect, apply the smoothing modifier and viola! If anything i would love a realistc spandex morph in any further clothing I purchase.

Is it really needed to add morphs for genesis clothing since it seems like any clothing I use, either gen 4 or gen 3 works well with autofit. I don’t even look at morphs any more, just adjustment ones for special movement.

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Posted: 13 December 2012 10:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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FSMCDesigns - 13 December 2012 10:33 PM
cwichura - 13 December 2012 08:26 PM

  I don’t think the folks creating the super-ginormous breast renders even want clothing to cover them, even if the clothing existed.  (And let’s face it, those renders are always topless because there isn’t any clothing that would fit them unless they’ve made it themselves.)

That is one of the beauty’s of genesis, i can nearly get any top to fit genesis and if not perfect, apply the smoothing modifier and viola! If anything i would love a realistc spandex morph in any further clothing I purchase.

Is it really needed to add morphs for genesis clothing since it seems like any clothing I use, either gen 4 or gen 3 works well with autofit. I don’t even look at morphs any more, just adjustment ones for special movement.

 

Which is fine if you mostly use things that are bras, corsets, armor, or have a plunging neckline.  In those cases having the fabric stick to each breast isn’t that unrealistic.  In a button-down shirt or loose cloth item, it looks wrong on anyone larger than pettanko-sized.


(There’s nothing wrong with liking that either, mind you.)

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Posted: 13 December 2012 11:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Besides the ones you listed I use Asobi, Nata and Chibi (not usually alone but combo).

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Posted: 14 December 2012 01:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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A use Nata a lot, I also use the Girl, I use alot of little bits of alot of different characters dialed in. I also use Asobi to some degree in alot of my faces, because of the way Genesis is you might not realise what people have dialed in.

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Posted: 14 December 2012 01:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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I probably shouldn’t weigh in because I haven’t used Genesis all that much until lately—-been busy with other things the last few months and have rendered very little, and my Studio activity has been mostly limited to file organization and installation. I haven’t even tried all the shapes yet. But the ones that appeal to me the most for use in what I do are not the Girl 4 types anyway. Mavka, Hitomi, and smay’s chibi’s are the ones I use the most for mixing. At least so far.

I’m hoping and hoping and hoping that Nursoda discovers Genesis but his characters aren’t big-boobed anyway.

As for the more toony ones, I fully expect to be using each and every 3D Universe character I can get my paws on.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 03:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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SickleYield - 13 December 2012 09:56 PM

“anime copyright violation” market

What is???

Anyway, I’m wondering if it’s possible for Genesis to have “rounded eyes” like the figure Kururu, who is a very good figure for anime characters…
(...and to do Miku Hatsune…)

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Posted: 15 December 2012 04:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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SickleYield - 13 December 2012 09:56 PM

First of all, what are your search terms that are finding all of this on DA, or is this a group you’re watching?  It would be nice to be able to at least survey what’s there. I’m not targeting the “anime copyright violation” market, which is a lot of DA’s toon renders that I’ve seen.  I know there are also some there by really outstanding renderers like Mattymanx that use more stylized characters in original scenes, though.


On the macro breasts and alternate modeling issue:


That’s asking me to do a lot of extra work to support something that 1. I don’t care for and 2. no other artist really supports.  I’m fine with people liking big breasts, even giant ones, but I’m not going to spend the hours looking at them that it would take to support them (pun intended). 


I do support the PBMBreastsCleavage morph on outfits with necklines low enough for that to be relevant now, and occasionally the Heavy and Large ones.  That’s about as far as I’m prepared to go.  I categorically refuse to mess with V5’s silly weird-shaped breast collection.


I’m sorry more people haven’t shown interest in Asobi.  She’s very pretty and doesn’t cause the AUGH KILL IT WITH FIRE reaction I feel toward the really chibis. :-D

I love Asobi, but then I’m one of those types who doesn’t really go with the huge implant-overload breasts which seem to dominate some character designs.

I’ve always preferred the ‘normal’ look. Even women with particularly large breasts generally aren’t as well endowed as a lot of art would like to portray them. I’m also not a fan of the ‘spherical’ breasts which I’ve seen on some stylised character morphs, preferring to dial down the chest in favour of something a bit more breast shaped and a little less basketball.

That being said. I’ve always preferred a nice bottom to a pair of breasts. Perhaps that has something to do with my preference for smaller frontage.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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SickleYield - 13 December 2012 09:56 PM

“anime copyright violation” market

What is???

Anyway, I’m wondering if it’s possible for Genesis to have “rounded eyes” like the figure Kururu, who is a very good figure for anime characters…
(...and to do Miku Hatsune…)

Selling art of a character licensed for distribution the U.S. laws is a violation of their copyright and is illegal.  This includes shows like Naruto and Bleach (the most common culprits) and characters like Miku Hatsune as well as charging for drawings of Harry Potter characters or DC/Marvel comics characters (also fairly common).  You will see a lot of people doing it anyway, and getting away with it because the parent company hasn’t noticed them yet and they are tiptoing around DA’s terms of service (by accepting payment away from the site instead of selling prints).


I don’t see why the round eyes aren’t possible.  Hitomi’s are pretty rounded already, and so are the chibis.

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Posted: 15 December 2012 10:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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SickleYield - 13 December 2012 03:19 PM

If you use Genesis, what toon morphs do you use?


This is a serious question because I’m thinking of dropping support for The Girl 4.  I don’t see her in a lot of Genesis renders, her proportions make top support very difficult, and she does terrible things to UVs in the breast area.  If I do that, I would probably replace her with another toon that is more popular with my target market (people who are interested in heavily morphing everyday clothing and occasional fantasy outfits). 


These morphs don’t matter to this consideration, as I will continue to support them regardless:

-Aiko 3, 4
-Hiro 3, 4, 5
-Hitomi
-Mavka


I’m more interested in whether you are using the Chibis, Amy, Sadie and Sam, or others like them that I currently do not support.  You will still be able to autoconform anything, of course, but this affects whether I start doing customs for other toons.

So far, in addition to those you list, I use the Chibis, Amy, Jasmine, Jazlyn, Jason, Sadie, Sam, Old Man Rex and Nata. I absolutely love The Girl, but find that with Genesis I dial back the body and concentrate more on her beautiful face, which makes her fit in better with the other characters.

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Posted: 16 December 2012 12:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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I went ahead and bought the Satsuki base figure last night. With her head scaled back 25% and Aiko 4 dialed in 25%, she made for an outstanding anime figure (to my eyes, of course). I think she’d be very nice mixed with Jazlyn, too, and with her texture and hair. However, I’m not sure you should start adding support for her. With her gentle curves, Autofit shouldn’t have any trouble keeping up.

And like the others, I think the G4 head shape is great but the body’s a bit too much, at least for my tastes.

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Posted: 16 December 2012 03:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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AndYourLittleDogToo - 16 December 2012 12:19 AM

I went ahead and bought the Satsuki base figure last night. With her head scaled back 25% and Aiko 4 dialed in 25%, she made for an outstanding anime figure (to my eyes, of course). I think she’d be very nice mixed with Jazlyn, too, and with her texture and hair. However, I’m not sure you should start adding support for her. With her gentle curves, Autofit shouldn’t have any trouble keeping up.

And like the others, I think the G4 head shape is great but the body’s a bit too much, at least for my tastes.

I don’t really consider Satsuki to be a toon morph. For a start she comes with a ‘realistic’ texture as opposed to a toon one. She’s probably the closest thing we have to a late-teens morph though, which is wonderful for bridging some of the age gaps in the Genesis line. Also, I agree. Satsuki’s morphs are wonderful for mixing.

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Posted: 16 December 2012 11:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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SickleYield - 15 December 2012 07:02 PM

I don’t see why the round eyes aren’t possible.  Hitomi’s are pretty rounded already, and so are the chibis.

Yes, but I can’t find the correct controls for shaping the eyes as I wish… maybe I need to buy some “expansion”?

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Posted: 16 December 2012 11:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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I constantly use Nata, mixed with Hitomi, chibi girl, toon amy and aiko 3. My boys are chibi boy, hiro 3 and jason. I want desperately Hiro 5 and mavka (gosha when he come), also with more patience old man rex, asobi for hitomi, Candy Factory for hitomi, and probably Kamiko and sadie/sam too. The girl is not in my plan, for sexy curvalicious I prefer Nata. Jazmin and Jazlyn are cute, but I think more in their clothes and hair.

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Posted: 16 December 2012 11:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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..the Genesis Toon characters I have are:

3DU’s Jasmin
3DU’s Amy
3DU’s Sadie
3DU’s Sam
Smay’s Nata
Smay’s Mavka

It would be particularly nice to see more support for Nata. I think she is a bit “cuter” than G4.

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