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Are there tangent handles for manipulating the shape of the curve in the graph editor?

Cheers

SKA

there seems no handle, but can directly manipulate and move each key in graph editor.
then adjust curve. (sometimes may need apply more keys to get good curve)

with ctrl key r-drug . I can move and slide key to each time flame.
if do not use ctrl key, often the key set on middle of key frame, eg frame 10 and 11, (10.3 etc)^^;

and I think it may better to get key mate too,(not2 editted @@;) to select and adjust each value by graphe mate.

it can automatically change the graph when tweak controller on parameter tab,
but it seems little bit difficult when you change value of many controller, to clearly grab which you record or not,
and modify after you made keys.

if get key mate, I can check each value graph on graph mate,  by select property on key mate too.
may need caution,, not select the key on key mate. or not scene tab node.

hope,,I do not say mistake ^^;

skamotion - 22 December 2012 07:47 AM

Are there tangent handles for manipulating the shape of the curve in the graph editor?

Cheers

SKA

No, but there should not be as graphMate currently only works with TCB, Linear, and Constant interpolation types.  TCB automatically creates the tangents based on the TCB parameters(tension continuity and bias), so no tangent handles.

Studio actually does support one more interpolation type.  That type is called Hermite.  I intended to support this type in graphMate, but I got some really odd results.  Now that I have researched it more, Hermite should allow tangent handles.  If I can work out the some remaining oddities, expect to see this in a future release.

This is done by Dreamlight and just hit the DAZ Store.  It is free, but very well done.  It does not show keyMate or graphMate, but the concepts it teaches about animation in DAZ Studio would be helpful to anyone using keyMate or graphMate.
- http://www.daz3d.com/shop/great-art-now-bonus-animation-101

Yeee ha, thank the heavens key frames in DS….....thank you.

A quick and messy test.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qKNym4Wbv8

I want to note that keyMate will not update properly when you change object’s parent.  I had to reopen saved scene for the objects to be properly positioned/listed.

Other than that, keyMate is a must have for the animators.  You can easily discard zillion transform, scale, rotate, value for any object within seconds.  It’s something that DS doesn’t have that ability.

I will post my work as soon as it’s complete.  It’s a music video.  I bought so many creatures, characters, props and lights to put together.  Without keyMate, I will honestly give up after it gets messy with hundred keyframes.

I intended to support this type in graphMate, but I got some really odd results.  Now that I have researched it more, Hermite should allow tangent handles.  If I can work out the some remaining oddities, expect to see this in a future release.

That would be awesome if there were tangent handles. Also is there a way to load in multiple curves in the graph editor, also we need the capability to copy and paste animation from one part of a curve onto another curve. Is that doable?

Here’s the same problem in Poser. This is how I animate using their graph editor and you can see it’s not a great way to work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra8mD8Yf7Qk

Cheers

SKA

Yes please, i only join above requests for updating graphmate!
tangent handles and a way to load in multiple curves in the graph editor + capability to copy and paste animation from one part of a curve onto another curve

Make animation options big in dazstudio.
it can be Animators dream Toy

KibbyCabbit - 23 December 2012 09:01 PM

I want to note that keyMate will not update properly when you change object’s parent.  I had to reopen saved scene for the objects to be properly positioned/listed.

Other than that, keyMate is a must have for the animators.  You can easily discard zillion transform, scale, rotate, value for any object within seconds.  It’s something that DS doesn’t have that ability.

I will post my work as soon as it’s complete.  It’s a music video.  I bought so many creatures, characters, props and lights to put together.  Without keyMate, I will honestly give up after it gets messy with hundred keyframes.

I can get the object thing fixed.  A simpler workaround would probably be to change the KeyTypes(TRSV drop down) to something else and then back.

skamotion - 23 December 2012 09:46 PM

Also is there a way to load in multiple curves in the graph editor, also we need the capability to copy and paste animation from one part of a curve onto another curve. Is that doable

Multiple curves like shown in the image? On windows you hold down control to multiple select.  On mac, the Mac key.  In keyMate or Parameters Tab.

With a simple curve the copy and paste should always work, you should be able to copy the keys in graphMate, then select a different curve, position the playhead, and then paste.  When you select multiple curves and copy and then select a different set of multiple curves and paste, it tries to match them up automatically based on name.

my request for future update,,,

1 select option

  when I click parameter label ,  the graph of the parameters will appear in graph mate. and select the property in key mate.
  and with ctrl key, and r-click , we can select and show different node parameter graph at same time,,,

it must be useful when serch property in key mate, now it select when I hover controller on parameter tab, but it change so quick.

2 when select property in key mate, extract and highlight the controller in parameter tab,,
(though it may need to change node in scene tab too,,,)

or I hope imput box which can set current value direct, etc beside key frame input box,,,
and select the key, I want to check the value,, on graph mate or key mate ^^

if there is imput box and property box , we may need not to serch controller and check the value in parameter tab again^^;

kitakoredaz - 24 December 2012 09:21 AM

my request for future update,,,

1 select option

  when I click parameter label ,  the graph of the parameters will appear in graph mate. and select the property in key mate.
  and with ctrl key, and r-click , we can select and show different node parameter graph at same time,,,

it must be useful when serch property in key mate, now it select when I hover controller on parameter tab, but it change so quick.

2 when select property in key mate, extract and highlight the controller in parameter tab,,
(though it may need to change node in scene tab too,,,)

or I hope imput box which can set current value direct, etc beside key frame input box,,,
and select the key, I want to check the value,, on graph mate or key mate ^^

if there is imput box and property box , we may need not to serch controller and check the value in parameter tab again^^;

I am unsure this is what you want, but you can turn off the interaction between the Parameters Tab and graphMate in graphMate’s little option menu.

> Hi dtamm

Yes, I know these option. so I hope more one option, for select graph .^^

when selecit option “listen from parameter”,  it can not select morph “value” and “other node rotation” at same time, I think.
and I hope when I select (Click or ctrl + click the clontroller, the graph of each properties show in parameter.

now when I hover mouse in parameter tab,  can show graph of property in graph editor. and select the property in key mate. (TRSV)
I often use this to serch and select the property in key mate. it seems convinient,
but seems difficult to select some properties at same time, and keep the selection..

so I hope one more option, when I hove mouse in parameter tab, not change the graph, not select the property in key mate,
but click the parameter label or bar,  select the property in key mate ^^ (and shoe the graph in graph mate)
and hope “clear all selection” too,,

Is there a new version of keyMate that we should update?  There need to be a system that notify us of new updates.