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Daz needs to show more respect to the adult entertainment industry re: 3D content.
Posted: 30 November 2012 12:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 76 ]
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Yes, but if you can make Robbie Coltrain look ten feet tall and Ian Holm look two and a half feet tall, you can do live action porn between Elves and whatever… It’s just a matter of what a producer is willing to spend making a film.  This guy wants it both ways.  He wants to make a tonne of money off his CG Porn, and have it virtually free to produce.  This, it seems, anyway, is someone who really doesn’t have much clue as to what goes into good quality CG Stills, much less film.  He seems to thin he should be able to set a couple of figures in a pose, hit render, and have it look good enough to give men that Viagra effect and put a tonne of money in his pocket.

That it’s a pipe dream is understood by most people on this forum.  It seems to me what this guy really needs is a render engine that renders dollars at the push of a button…. that might make him happy.  Maybe.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 77 ]
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Faerydae - 30 November 2012 12:09 PM

IMO, maybe somewhere around 75% of renders are for pin-up type renders, but normal pin-up renders are far from porn.

Too bad not everyone agrees to that. Many people still try to define porn as anything mildly exciting. Like a swimsuit magazine or Maxim. Or a woman in tight jeans, or people doing the salsa.

EDIT: and if you think I’m being extreme, no I still deal with this mentality on a daily basis and I wish I could run away but am stuck where I am :(


I’m doing a salsa basic step RIGHT NOW.


I am the porn!  Look away!

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 78 ]
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SickleYield - 30 November 2012 12:16 PM

I’m doing a salsa basic step RIGHT NOW.


I am the porn!  Look away!

LOL. I’ll go blind if I look too long. Least thats what I’ve been told.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 79 ]
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SickleYield - 30 November 2012 12:16 PM
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Faerydae - 30 November 2012 12:09 PM

IMO, maybe somewhere around 75% of renders are for pin-up type renders, but normal pin-up renders are far from porn.

Too bad not everyone agrees to that. Many people still try to define porn as anything mildly exciting. Like a swimsuit magazine or Maxim. Or a woman in tight jeans, or people doing the salsa.

EDIT: and if you think I’m being extreme, no I still deal with this mentality on a daily basis and I wish I could run away but am stuck where I am :(


I’m doing a salsa basic step RIGHT NOW.


I am the porn!  Look away!

If Salsa dancing is considered porn then Dancing With The Stars (and ABC and Disney) are in big trouble, that stuff airs during prime time.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 80 ]
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SickleYield - 30 November 2012 12:16 PM

I’m doing a salsa basic step RIGHT NOW.


I am the porn!  Look away!

LOL. I’ll go blind if I look too long. Least thats what I’ve been told.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 81 ]
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fixme12 - 30 November 2012 04:56 AM
Jabba101 - 29 November 2012 03:43 PM

Learn how to properly adjust Genesis, and learn some half-decent post work/digital painting techniques, then sky’s the limit

Yeah, how can people do that without a well written manual or very poor video tutorial section?
that’s where the first problem start…
all what’s left for many is try’ll and error and lot’s of frustration.
at that last part, people just leave and go on with other things in life.
and never look back.

Interesting topic. Sex is always interesting, anyone who thinks otherwise, needs to treat that bubble really carefully.

Tried poser etc previously and must say, it was easier to go and learn blender than get to grips with poser. I’m experimenting a bit with daz4.5, but seriously, it seriously sucks to try and figure stuff out and it is easier than when I’ve tried poser.

Trial and error is the only method.

One thing I noticed when I first looked at the site was the woman’s boobs had no nipples; mum even commented - when she came to my study and saw - that they looked unrealistic. Mum’s in her 80’s, and thought it pretty silly.

An image should always be believable, not necessarily real, but certainly believable, otherwise we lose our audience. Sometimes genitals are needed, sometimes not.

And I was surprised to discover people saying this is a family orientated site; but it’s always been the case that we’d rather expose our kids to various forms of violence than even healthy love and sex.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 82 ]
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Rareth - 30 November 2012 12:23 PM

If Salsa dancing is considered porn then Dancing With The Stars (and ABC and Disney) are in big trouble, that stuff airs during prime time.

I wouldn’t say big trouble, because I don’t think most people are that extreme, but my granny did complain about DWTS and said it’s a shame that stuff like that is on TV to influence younger audiences.(to get pregnant)

She also though Elvis was a hottie.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 83 ]
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Rareth - 30 November 2012 12:23 PM

If Salsa dancing is considered porn then Dancing With The Stars (and ABC and Disney) are in big trouble, that stuff airs during prime time.

I wouldn’t say big trouble, because I don’t think most people are that extreme, but my granny did complain about DWTS and said it’s a shame that stuff like that is on TV to influence younger audiences.(to get pregnant)

She also though Elvis was a hottie.

If you get pregnant while doing salsa, you are doing it wrong.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 84 ]
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Rareth - 30 November 2012 12:23 PM

If Salsa dancing is considered porn then Dancing With The Stars (and ABC and Disney) are in big trouble, that stuff airs during prime time.

I wouldn’t say big trouble, because I don’t think most people are that extreme, but my granny did complain about DWTS and said it’s a shame that stuff like that is on TV to influence younger audiences.(to get pregnant)

She also though Elvis was a hottie.

If you get pregnant while doing salsa, you are doing it wrong.

Or very, very rightwink

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 85 ]
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my salsa involves tomatos and a sharp knife snake not sure that leads to conception

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 86 ]
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Rareth - 30 November 2012 12:23 PM

If Salsa dancing is considered porn then Dancing With The Stars (and ABC and Disney) are in big trouble, that stuff airs during prime time.

I wouldn’t say big trouble, because I don’t think most people are that extreme, but my granny did complain about DWTS and said it’s a shame that stuff like that is on TV to influence younger audiences.(to get pregnant)

She also though Elvis was a hottie.

If you get pregnant while doing salsa, you are doing it wrong.

I dunno, I’d pay to see it in action myself. But seriously, we all know that smexy dancing is what leads to pre-martial sex and fatherless children. (edit: or perhaps children that don’t known their daddy is better way to phrase it)

But I have strayed too far from the subject matter. Erm um. I like pinups and I do wish that the legs of genesis bent better in the inner thigh area. and I wish panties didn’t deform strangely when doing normal pinup poses. I do my own tricks to get things to look nice, like post work and sometimes deformers. But that does add a lot of time to the project , so anything that helps speed things up I would appreciate. I’ve got a few genesis bend fixes and they are helpful but not in the situation I am mentioning. If another group wanted to address that issue I would pay them.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 87 ]
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wendy♥catz - 30 November 2012 12:38 PM

my salsa involves tomatos and a sharp knife snake not sure that leads to conception

sounds like two kinks mixed into one. Might want keep quiet about that.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 88 ]
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Rareth - 30 November 2012 12:23 PM

If Salsa dancing is considered porn then Dancing With The Stars (and ABC and Disney) are in big trouble, that stuff airs during prime time.

I wouldn’t say big trouble, because I don’t think most people are that extreme, but my granny did complain about DWTS and said it’s a shame that stuff like that is on TV to influence younger audiences.(to get pregnant)

She also though Elvis was a hottie.

guess I forgot the sarcasm smiley oops..


its all in the eye of the beholder.. like the song says..

You see a priceless french painting, I see a drunk naked girl….

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Posted: 30 November 2012 01:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 89 ]
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The 3D Porn industry is a real thing, and while there’s no way to know the actual percentage of 3D porn out there compared to other “legitimate” 3D human/anamorphic rendering it’s not out of the question to say it’s probably a lot more than anyone might admit. If you don’t make porn and don’t consider it art that’s your business, but if you render cars or robots remember Mechaphilia is a real word and that means someone, (probably a lot more) did something to make it necessary to have that kind of word.

Is port art?
It depends.

Is it daz3d’s responsibility to offer you the best out of the box 3d porn experience they can?
Nope. it’s your responsibility if you wish to pursue it.

What Daz3d has done is provide the base for getting started with “A hobby” the rest will probably need to be pursued outside the Daz3d realm. Once a hobbyist get’s serious about their craft they generally find they need to find solutions elsewhere. I use Studio, Blender, Photoshop and Illustrator, and I rely on many 3rd party packages to address the limitations of both the software and my limited knowledge. Any car mechanic, any serious musician, or any computer modder; they explore their options when they become limited.

Heres one other thought that I hope you consider whether you like porn or you feel those who make it should be shoved screaming into a wood chipper; porn has been around for millennia, it’s not some 20th century anomaly that happened because of the invention photography, before then it was all drawn, sculpted, painted, celebrated in song or prose. If the future of porn is 3D so be it, if it means one single 16 year old runaway is not being intercepted at the bus station by some cretin who destroys kids lives (see wood chipper reference) for a living then I’m all for 3D porn as the alternative.

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Posted: 30 November 2012 01:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 90 ]
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SickleYield - 29 November 2012 08:54 PM

There are few points on which I am disappointed at all with Genesis, but that’s one.  It really does hurt the morphing capabilities.

I agree. Genesis is a great product, but it lacks many of the morphs V4++/M4++ had. Most was cut in the face morphs, which makes it difficult to have the broad range of characters V4 and M4 offer. That’s why I still prefer the latter.

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