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Daz needs to show more respect to the adult entertainment industry re: 3D content.
Posted: 29 November 2012 03:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Well the center piece of modern porn would be bits and how they animate, the rest of that stuff is important but not as much so.

Ya know why, most people (as in the consumer) don’t care, don’t know any better and don’t want to know. But yes improving the visual quality, framing and such would help to a degree. But again not much.

Ya know why, look at a live action hub site and look at the modern trash thrown out and how popular it is.(not saying you literally have to do this but trust me here) Poorly lit, no editing and bad acting. But people(the consumers again) love it to death and spend countless time watching it.

Back in the day I remember porn had stories, and scenes where they build up the characters, they had some simple cinematography, period costumes and great scenery. Not so much anymore(most of the time).

But yeah a lot of the creators of 3d erotica could step up their game a lot. But there are some out there that have gotten it together,  but erm its still not for everybody.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Don’t forget that Daz actually put huge resources into fixing V4…and M4 as well.

That fix is called Genesis. 

Don’t expect resources to go towards fixing legacy figures, particularly since the fixing of them has become a mini-industry in itself for small vendors.  And yes, I did some fixes as well.  They are free on Share Cg.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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wancow - 29 November 2012 02:30 PM
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wancow - 29 November 2012 01:57 PM

My question to the OP is this: if the Adult Film Industry is going to make SOOOOOO much money on 3D: why can’t Adult 3D Film producers afford high end artists using sate of the art software to make their stuff?

probably because in reality that “SOOOOOO much” is actualy just “A bit”
Logistically speaking - I’d imagine you can hire real actors for much less than a bunch of Maya Licences, a team of 3d artists ,a render farm and big fat electricity bill. There would be no point.
The only reason I can see that someone would opt to make 3d porn (which i’d imagine is fairly low demand compared to the real thing) is that its very low cost to produce - thanks to the likes of Poser.

 

Oh… okay, so if poser porn makes so much money, why is he complaining?  It is what it is.

Because the (ahem) bits & bobs still dont work as well as he’d like i think .. :D

 

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Marieah - 29 November 2012 03:14 PM

Don’t forget that Daz actually put huge resources into fixing V4…and M4 as well.

That fix is called Genesis. 

Don’t expect resources to go towards fixing legacy figures, particularly since the fixing of them has become a mini-industry in itself for small vendors.  And yes, I did some fixes as well.  They are free on Share Cg.

The OP did say he didn’t like Genesis because it still didn’t fix a lot of the stuff Zev mentioned.

But like I said Daz isn’t going to focus on a niche like this, they couldn’t even put a picture up to show the improvements.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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The biggest issue is not the tools, but the lack of skill with how they’re used.

I understand that many folk want instant results, and if the motivation is too much in the erotic camp without a sufficient foothold in the artistic camp, then the results are as you see all over the internet.

Learn how to properly adjust Genesis, and learn some half-decent post work/digital painting techniques, then sky’s the limit.

This is a customised Genesis M5 with Phillip elite texture (heavy post-work on face to achieve character likeness - I couldn’t get face morphs this close)... from start to finish around 5 hours (this is a forum-compliant image; it shouldn’t take too much imagination to realise what could be done instead of just a guy standing in trunks) ...

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Frank0314 - 29 November 2012 02:35 PM

Lets please try to remember this is a family orientated site and avoid getting involved in graphic descriptions

Do not take offense when you read this my friend.

BUT FAMILY ORIENTATED? WTF? Family orientated?  What planet are you on? No offense. The reality is that 75% of renders are used for pornography.  You can accept this fact or continue to ignore reality.

Even in the DAZ galleries 50% of renders are very sexual in nature. I understand some people are uncomfortable when talking about sex, but please don’t be.

http://www.daz3d.com/i/galleries/0?id=23651&2

Look how family orientated this picture is: http://www.daz3d.com/i/galleries/0?id=7357&sec=3  That mom sure looks hot lol.

I’m approaching this issue on a PROFESSIONAL BUSINESS level.  V4’s buttocks and thighs have barely enough geometry for proper modification. Was V4 not designed by DAZ? I suggest a high resolution V4 4.3 with three times the amount of poly’s in the thigh & buttocks region.

DAZ needs to realize that V4 & V5 is mainly used for SEX, sex, sex, sex.  So the next V4 has to have the thighs & butt in proper order when she is bent over. 

Marieah - 29 November 2012 03:14 PM

Don’t forget that Daz actually put huge resources into fixing V4…and M4 as well.

That fix is called Genesis. 

Don’t expect resources to go towards fixing legacy figures, particularly since the fixing of them has become a mini-industry in itself for small vendors.  And yes, I did some fixes as well.  They are free on Share Cg.

Take V5 Genesis and bend her over. Looks pretty crappy doesn’t it? DAZ needs to get on top of that asap.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 03:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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TimG - 29 November 2012 02:10 PM

People really are looking for realism in their porn.

Not me!

Realism is for people who can’t handle Fantasy-ism.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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*cough* No comment. *Cough*

laksdfj - 29 November 2012 03:46 PM

Take V5 Genesis and bend her over.  DAZ needs to get on top of that .

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Posted: 29 November 2012 04:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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A Victoria 4 with more polygons would not be able to use existing Victoria 4 morphs at all, a Victoria 4 with different joint settings would not be able to wear existing Victoria 4 clothing and so on - you are in effect asking for a new figure, not an upgrade.

I also have to point out that the images you linked from the galleries may be pin-ups, but they are a long way short of porn or sex.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 04:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Ummm.. I’ll not say what I do with my 3D product’s. Just that things can be fixed and will do all that is needed but not with products from this site.

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Posted: 29 November 2012 04:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Richard Haseltine - 29 November 2012 04:14 PM

A Victoria 4 with more polygons would not be able to use existing Victoria 4 morphs at all, a Victoria 4 with different joint settings would not be able to wear existing Victoria 4 clothing and so on

I don’t think that would matter for the OP’s intentions. wink

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Posted: 29 November 2012 04:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Richard Haseltine - 29 November 2012 04:14 PM

A Victoria 4 with more polygons would not be able to use existing Victoria 4 morphs at all, a Victoria 4 with different joint settings would not be able to wear existing Victoria 4 clothing and so on - you are in effect asking for a new figure, not an upgrade.

I also have to point out that the images you linked from the galleries may be pin-ups, but they are a long way short of porn or sex.

I’m willing to sacrifice wearing any type of clothing and I’d be happy with 6-8 body morphs, definition, fitness, voluptuous, etc.  I can use a combo between normal v4.2 normal and a v4.2 model that is designed for her to be bent over so her thighs, buttocks and genital area look just like a real woman.  I’d pay $99.95 for this model.

 

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Posted: 29 November 2012 06:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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DAZ_Kevin - 29 November 2012 04:10 PM

*cough* No comment. *Cough*

laksdfj - 29 November 2012 03:46 PM

Take V5 Genesis and bend her over.  DAZ needs to get on top of that .

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Posted: 29 November 2012 07:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Frank0314 - 29 November 2012 02:35 PM

Lets please try to remember this is a family orientated site and avoid getting involved in graphic descriptions

Family oriented site with be-headings wink

Hmmm… “family”... “be-heading” ...  would that be an “Apidae direction”?  ROTFLMAO (excuse me I’m a little loopy tonight) (*snark*)

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Posted: 29 November 2012 07:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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well, I took v5 and bent her over, but I don’t see how DAZ can get on top of her cheese

In any case, if DAZ started doing anything even remotely related to erotic art work, the credit card companies would throw a fit.

That’s why none of the “bits” have any real functionality.

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