Guys, chill. Joe actually censored himself last night after posting one of his off-color “embellishments” on the emotional state of the proposed “Carrara movie project”.... I know most people won’t care, but I saw his post (rolled my eyes but decided to post information instead of getting offended), and I appreciated later when I saw he had removed the comment all on his own without prompting…. Joe just has a certain way of observing things, and then a certain way of passing along his observations…. There have been plenty of other crankypusses on the forum, I’m choosing to appreciate his restraint - imagine all the things he DOESN’T say. LOL!
Meanwhile this totally bourgois idea that we “need” a narrative cartoon for the “good of Carrara” - WHILE COMPLETELY IGNORING THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY EXIST is quickly becoming my most hated topic ever. If YOU want a full-length animated “movie” then GO MAKE IT and stop trying to get someone else to do it for you, and someone else else to pay for it…. SERIOUSLY, if you can’t be bothered to click on a link (in my signature) to take 30 minutes or so to see what’s out there already, there’s a word for you: LAZY.
Stop blaming Joe. He keeps saying what Carrara users (imho) need to realize: Projects don’t get completed or abandoned because of software, they get completed or abandoned because of human resources. The people who were MOST VOCAL in the Carrara movie thread were actually the SAME PEOPLE who kept saying they didn’t want to take charge or impose a specific direction to the project…. Seriously guys, If you choose to comment but can’t be bothered to contribute the fault is completely with YOU, not Carrara or DAZ or anyone else. CHEERLEADERS DON’T WIN FOOTBALL GAMES. SOMEONE ACTUALLY HAS TO RUN WITH THE BALL. Obviously a group project can’t work without a leader, and no one wanted to go with my suggestion of keeping it smaller and independent (but loosely connected) as a community showcase (in my opinion, still a good way to START working together where no one’s feelings get hurt, and no one is held back by other people’s time commitments).
I’m going to go ahead and SAY what Joe is probably biting his lip about…. If users can’t learn to support existing projects, then it the USERS’ FAULT that finished projects are not being posted here. EVERYTIME I post links to the short films that exist, it has been ignored. *shrug* Good luck with that and I hope everyone returns the “support” when you post yours…. No one was ever able to decide what the goal of the project was, so it’s ridiculous to pretend it was ever going to spontaneously emerge from the sea as a finished short film complete with Hollywood cliches and inane sexist plotlines…. It takes a TEAM of writers and marketing gurus to come up with that crap. You actually have to work at it, and it helps if you have a narcissistic ego and play to the lowest common denominator. Remember that Big Buck Bunny ends with a fart joke….
It’s easy to complain, a lot harder to follow through to completion. The Carrara community is too cut off from the real world. We spend so much time whining that we get no love from the Poserverse, meanwhile what are WE doing to bring “REAL 3D” to the DAZzers?...? I never want to see another pre-fab hootchie dance on a dinosaur from 30ft away - that doesn’t even look CLOSE to a shortfilm made for the real world audience…. Movies start with a script, not a cool looking spaceship…. These “group projects” were designed to fail, and quite frankly that’s a good thing because failure is a LEARNING PROCESS not a reason to give up…. No one wanted to take charge, so the people with some production experience kept quiet and allowed the topic to meander to it’s inevitable non-conclusion.
Personally, I cannot be involved in any “script” or community project that does not pass the Brechdel Test. We all have our own ideas of what would be cool, our own baby epics, so let’s go work on them—the power of Carrara is that it’s easy enough to learn so the entire process CAN be done by one person… BUT don’t bother to post them here because no one cares. The project I’m most interested in following is Scifi Funk’s, but even he posts more on Facebook because who needs this tiny insulated community that can’t be bothered to support the existing animation projects that are out there…?
Come on guys. If you want to point out BAD BEHAVIOR lets look at the real reasons no one posts their projects here, and stop jumping on the people who say the un-sugar-coated truth.
• HOW do we organize?
• HOW do we work together?
• WHAT is the goal (to flatter Carrara or to flatter ourselves)?
• HOW do we learn to support the existing projects so the more can be made, bigger and better…?
If the HONEST goal is to get more animation projects out there that showcase Carrara, how come you don’t post (or analyze, or even acknowledge) the ones that ARE THERE? I think we all know the answer.
There are a dozen of those “write a novel in a month” kind of projects, ones for animation, ones for comics…. Let’s look to the BIGGER world of 3D and try to interest REAL audiences who don’t give a crap about software… THAT’S when you’ll start interesting people in Carrara’s capabilities—and for sure don’t bother posting it here because no one will care. Post it on Facebook and on Youtube and out there in the real world (look at Wendy’s subscriber numbers!!!). Users HERE just want to have fun in Carrara - and there’s nothing wrong with that. Just stop blaming other people when you can’t be bothered to do your research or make the effort yourself. No one OWES us a Carrara movie.