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Is it just me… I just don’t spend my money at Daz anymore
Posted: 20 November 2012 08:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Cheaper here then what I used to spend at Turbo Squid o.O

Definitely. But when people have become used to a certain price level, anything above that becomes “too expensive”. All is relative.

 

It’s not just relative to everyone. I have a price point at which I decide whether I’d be better off doing it myself or purchasing it, and that is balanced against the likely use I will have for the item. With the discounts I’m sure many people like I purchase items we aren’t even sure when we’ll use because the price is right and we figure it will average out in the end by giving us much more flexibility in what we can choose from at any given time in creating a piece. So for me at least, and I’m guessing many others, it totally changes how we purchase and what we base our purchase decision on. Turbo Squid has been around forever. I’ve not bought a single thing there.

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Posted: 20 November 2012 09:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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No one makes anything new for Aiko3 anymore. :(

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Posted: 20 November 2012 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Mattymanx - 20 November 2012 09:05 AM

No one makes anything new for Aiko3 anymore. :(

And it’s a damn shame. :(

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Posted: 20 November 2012 09:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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i just wait before i buy more…

genesis upgrade is very great idea, finally some change in good direction.
i lost money on ds4 pro, lost money on ds3 avanced (was fun but unfinished).
programs that daz gave away for nothing.
some people spent real $$$ on this.

now,
i still wait for a real pro version of studio for all the users that would move pro.
not the ds4 or 4.5 beta that ‘s free available now.
some people here at least earn a very cheap upgrade to this upcoming pro version with included printable pdf manual…
all people that have paid for ds4 pro at launch date and didn’t go for a refunds,
when daz give it for free away.
would be invited to attend…

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Posted: 20 November 2012 03:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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It’s not just you. The new store is such a drag.

I am really amazed that DAZ does not fix the item history problem.  It’s a huge pain, and has got to be impacting their sales.

And yeah, the way PC coupons work now it just horrible.  Just doesn’t seem worth it any more.

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Posted: 20 November 2012 04:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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The recent sales have been very helpful for me in regards to patience with some of the challenges. I also like that I can count on a certain quality and a good return policy from DAZ.

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Posted: 20 November 2012 04:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Gedd - 20 November 2012 04:04 PM

The recent sales have been very helpful for me in regards to patience with some of the challenges. I also like that I can count on a certain quality and a good return policy from DAZ.

I certainly agree with that. Daz’s customer care, IMHO, is way above everyone else. Two months ago Renderosity screwed me out of $5.50 and basically said to me too bad. They had a 16% off coupon one day , so I purchased all that I could spend at that time. Then the next day they had a 26% coupon which would have saved me around $5.50. Daz would have given me store credit immediately. Rendo told me that is the way it works and there is nothing they can do. I averaged over $100 a month spending there but I haven’t purchased anything from them since. Their loss over a measly $5.50.

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Posted: 20 November 2012 04:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Gedd - 20 November 2012 04:04 PM

The recent sales have been very helpful for me in regards to patience with some of the challenges. I also like that I can count on a certain quality and a good return policy from DAZ.

I think it’s all the really good things about DAZ that have made people so upset about the changes and glitches. If it was just any old company nobody would bother much. Coming from the UK, especially the south, where good customer service is like hens’ teeth it is very refreshing. I’ve only had a few problems but they were easily and quickly dealt with.

I’m quite surprised how much I have been getting lately. Good deals on M5 and V5, Decimator to make background figures and a number of useful things in the PC anniversary that I wouldn’t have bought at full price as I only wanted parts of the set. I’ve just forced myself to let a Jack Tomalin set pass by as I can’t justify the cost at present - maybe next year…

 

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Posted: 20 November 2012 04:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Baglet - 20 November 2012 04:54 PM

.. like hens’ teeth ...

Learned something new, our hens don’t have teeth, that’s too cool. Post a pic smile

 

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Posted: 20 November 2012 07:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Instead of making everything compatible.  DAZ is making everything incompatible.  Can you use these morphs with this figure?  I don’t know.  Will this work in Poser?  I don’t know.  Will this texture fit this figure?  I don’t know.  This dynamic cloth will work in this program, but not in this other program, that needs a different kind of dynamic cloth, and will it work in Carrara - who knows?  Can you import this Genesis into Poser then into Vue?  Who knows?  Do you need 5 different versions of every figure?  It seems so.  Only the clothes for that old figure won’t fit this new figure, and it won’t work in DAZ Studio because it’s the wrong kind of dynamic cloth.  This Genesis figure, that you can import into Poser - can you import all the morphs and get them to work in poser?  Or do you need some other kind of morphs?  Who knows?

They’ve made everything so unbelievably confusing that I’m paralyzed when it comes to buying anything new.  All I’m buying are products for which there is no question in my mind will work with no problems with what I already have - and that excludes almost everything made for Genesis and Daz Studio.  Every time some product is released for Genesis that I like and want, I get angry because I don’t know if it’ll work with what I already have.  So I don’t buy it.

Like - stop the insanity already.  Just stop making things incompatible.  Make everything work with everything else (within reason).  Make that your business.  To make things that work together.  Instead of making things that don’t work together.  If you’re going to sell a hair model, make the thing fit every DAZ figure.  If you’re going to make a piece of clothing, find some way to make it fit every DAZ figure regardless of what software someone is using.  Make processes 1 step, instead of having to take 6 steps just to use something.  Make what you sell simple to use.  And versatile.  Simple and versatile.  Make shopping simple.  Make finding things in the store and in the forums simple.  Don’t think about selling 3D software and content, think about selling simpllicity and versatility.  People want to buy siplicity and versatility.  They don’t want to buy complicated and limited.  People are doing this because it is suppose to be fun.  Not a frustrating, aggravating ordeal.

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Posted: 20 November 2012 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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I agree. It’s not just you.
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I haven’t been spending nearly as much here in the new store. Rendo has been getting more of my money (when I spend).
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The broken marketplace doesn’t help. I’m a Carrara 7Pro user and am not upgrading to anything just to use Genesis. A lot of good stuff still comes out for Gen4, just have to look for it.
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This past PC Club sale was a major downer. The new sale may be working great for some. I do see some quality items. I have been sitting this one out for the most part.
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I have still yet to use my coupon (which is more of a chore than a joy), but I hate to let them expire, so I just get something.
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Maybe things will rebound.

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Posted: 20 November 2012 10:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Fauvist - 20 November 2012 07:06 PM

Instead of making everything compatible.  DAZ is making everything incompatible.  Can you use these morphs with this figure?  I don’t know.  Will this work in Poser?  I don’t know.  Will this texture fit this figure?  I don’t know.  This dynamic cloth will work in this program, but not in this other program, that needs a different kind of dynamic cloth, and will it work in Carrara - who knows?  Can you import this Genesis into Poser then into Vue?  Who knows?  Do you need 5 different versions of every figure?  It seems so.  Only the clothes for that old figure won’t fit this new figure, and it won’t work in DAZ Studio because it’s the wrong kind of dynamic cloth.  This Genesis figure, that you can import into Poser - can you import all the morphs and get them to work in poser?  Or do you need some other kind of morphs?  Who knows?

They’ve made everything so unbelievably confusing that I’m paralyzed when it comes to buying anything new.  All I’m buying are products for which there is no question in my mind will work with no problems with what I already have - and that excludes almost everything made for Genesis and Daz Studio.  Every time some product is released for Genesis that I like and want, I get angry because I don’t know if it’ll work with what I already have.  So I don’t buy it.

Like - stop the insanity already.  Just stop making things incompatible.  Make everything work with everything else (within reason).  Make that your business.  To make things that work together.  Instead of making things that don’t work together.  If you’re going to sell a hair model, make the thing fit every DAZ figure.  If you’re going to make a piece of clothing, find some way to make it fit every DAZ figure regardless of what software someone is using.  Make processes 1 step, instead of having to take 6 steps just to use something.  Make what you sell simple to use.  And versatile.  Simple and versatile.  Make shopping simple.  Make finding things in the store and in the forums simple.  Don’t think about selling 3D software and content, think about selling simpllicity and versatility.  People want to buy siplicity and versatility.  They don’t want to buy complicated and limited.  People are doing this because it is suppose to be fun.  Not a frustrating, aggravating ordeal.

The problem is not less compatibility, but more compatibility.  It used to be:  these morphs work only with one figure, this clothing works only with one figure, etc.  (unless you use a conversion program, of course.)  Now DAZ 3D has created the possibility to use lots more older items with newer figures than ever before.  Personally, while it would be nice if things were clearer (not that confusing product requirements are new with Genesis, but I agree it’s become harder to keep everything straight), I think “maybe” is still preferable to a blanket “no.”

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Posted: 20 November 2012 10:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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fixmypcmike - 20 November 2012 10:11 PM

I think “maybe” is still preferable to a blanket “no.”

That’s a very expensive “maybe”, and not just monetarily.

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Posted: 21 November 2012 05:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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I still buy if I see something I like. HOWEVER, my account is a damn mess. Duplicate items everywhere. My wishlist has the same issue. Would be nice If I could arrange items by price, or view items only on special. There needs to be more structure. It is actually unpleasant going through it all and actually puts me off purchasing a bit. It’s like I am hesitant to enter my account, cause I can never find anything. Don’t get me started on product updates..dear Lord..

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Posted: 21 November 2012 05:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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Baglet - 20 November 2012 04:54 PM

.. like hens’ teeth ...

Learned something new, our hens don’t have teeth, that’s too cool. Post a pic smile

 

I think the hens next door are safe but I’m not sure about the ones a couple of streets down. I’ve only heard them clucking behind a tall fence so they may have teeth.

 

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