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Is it just me… I just don’t spend my money at Daz anymore
Posted: 02 January 2013 03:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 151 ]
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The clothing/figures that you illustrated are just the sort of things that I too would dearly like to buy.

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Posted: 02 January 2013 03:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 152 ]
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Woolyloach - 02 January 2013 10:41 AM

  I honestly have all the content I think I’ll ever need.

There’s that, too.  Someone brought this up in another thread: “Need saturation.”  Eventually, you reach a point where you really don’t need any more.  Especially now, when Wardrobe Wizard and the like mean you don’t have to buy all new clothes for a new figure. 

So, maybe the message is “If you have so many purchases you can’t remember what you bought, you don’t need any more.”  :-D

When it reaches the point that you have over 90GB of installed content and need specialized programs and spreadsheets to remember if you bought such-and-such, then yeah - time to quit, at least for me.

Now I just buy something when I need it, sale or not.. and I haven’t needed anything for a long, long time. smirk

I knew I had plenty when I could sit down and create a squirrel with tentacles on the moons surface.. out of existing content! shock

 

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Posted: 03 January 2013 02:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 153 ]
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beregar - 02 January 2013 12:19 PM

I don’t use Poser but I pretty much have skipped nearly all sales since a few months ago. Including new stuff like hiro, the horse and the teens that I’d normally get. I didn’t even get any bogo stuff and cancelled my platinum club membership a few months ago which I have had pretty much since my registeration in 2005. I still get a few items here and there but not really spending actively.

The primary reason is that I don’t like the new website and how annoying it’s to reset products and then find which file I’m supposed to download among a half a dozen choices. Also as people have pointed out there’s a too big risk for duplicates. Finally the site has regularly difficulties showing up to date products. I’ve to sort if for last product and then new product before the product shows up.

It’s also missing many items I’d like to buy. I’ve a lot of full sets of stuff but what I really need are things that are hard to come by anywhere. Things like animal face masks/shamanistic helmets, mix and match LIE tattoo sets, LIE pattern overlays (i.e. symbols and sigils), long braided fibre mesh bread (dwarf style).

Even for fantasy you tend to find either total skimpwear or then practical armors. I’ve a need for really elaborate fantasy stuff be it actual shape or textures. i.e. like armors below:

Scorpion
Fancy headress
Undead Armor
Mixed armor
Bear shaman
Stag armor

I’m also a big fan of races that at the same time look familiar but alien and monstrous. I.e. some below:

Krait
Grawl

However note that since introduction of Genesis I’ve mostly looked for Genesis compatible characters. Also characters that allow mixing and matching with different morphs. Sometimes I just have a use for massive clawed hands and sometimes I need the full figure. I feel that Genesis is a bit underutilized since people tend to produce full figures both in terms of textures and morphs while DS and Genesis both have great tools for something that would mesh well with existing human skins and morphs.

I’m still waiting for a creature creator for genesis that allows mixing of creature elements with already existing M4/V4/M5/V5 textures. I’m searching for products that add tails, fins, satyr legs, and other stuff while providing LIE overlays/geometry so they can mesh with the human skin below (also with M4 skins since I use them more than M5) i.e. like fins of the I.e. stuff like fins of a mirefolk stalker, or sometimes just animals masks like I mentioned before. For example something like what King is wearing here.

Edit: Also while I still remember. I have a need for relatively quick loading building kit which comes with believable exteriors and interiors. I love Faveral’s stuff for exteriors but you can’t build believable interiors out of them. I’m currently building a “tradingpost” for a fantasy setting and I’m lamenting that I’ve yet to see a good fantasy city building kit where both exteriors and interiors are included. I don’t really have a use for scene objects that have only either. I don’t mind placing the props myself but the problem is that usually the interiors look “wrong” because of how for example windows have been built.

Are you aware of this thread:

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/13531/

 

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Posted: 03 January 2013 09:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 154 ]
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luxgabu - 03 January 2013 02:36 AM

Are you aware of this thread:

http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/13531/

I am now. wink

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Posted: 13 August 2013 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 155 ]
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Recently I got another email including a $5 coupon from DAZ, saying “we miss you so much, we’ll pay you to get you back!”

Yes, I’d also like to continue buying more products from the DAZ store again, but it seems the guys there are making it very hard for their customers to keep on supporting them. Why? There are many reasons, and I think most of them are well-known but are ignored intentionally:

First of all, DAZ is not listening to their customers. Instead of respecting their wishes (which are sometimes not so special), they are just ignoring them. For example there were many requests to keep all Readme files within the downloadable packages (as it was common before), but they decided to cancel them completely. For each single product, now several files have to be downloaded separately, like Readme files, content file lists or rendering infos. After each purchase the customer has to search the whole DAZ homepage in order to retrieve original information from the author. Usually documentation is always included with the purchased product, but not here at DAZ. When you’re in the middle of a workflow and you’d like to look up some hints from the author, this whole procedure is really annoying and sometimes even unacceptable, especially if the working PC is not supposed to go online. On a regular basis DAZ is closing such “unwanted” threads in the forums asking for improvements, and so many user voices will remain unheard and ignored.

The next point I’d like to mention is that compatibility is still a foreign word for DAZ developers. Functions that have been introduced few D|S versions ago are suddenly “unappreciated”, have disappeared from application menus, or simply won’t work anymore as before. Noone likes to rely on a new program version that doesn’t behave like the previous one. Of course artists want to continue using products they already purchased. Buying a product update (if it will be developed at all) for every new D|S version (even if the application is for free) is not acceptable.

However, the same problem applies to new DAZ products, too. It should be absolutely no problem for DAZ vendors to include additional material presets that can be interpreted and executed by older DAZ Studio versions (“legacy files”). But instead of making their new products compatible with all recent Studio versions, DAZ postulates that D|S 4.5 (or for using Genesis2 even D|S 4.6) has to be running. Even new products for the good-old Victoria 4 already come with material presets which sometimes cannot be read anymore by Studio versions older than V4.5. What if users still like to work with D|S 4.0, the initial version the Genesis platform has been introduced with? Unfortunately the latest D|S versions are still buggy. After all it really wouldn’t be too much effort for DAZ vendors also to include the approved file formats like “DSA/DSB/DSE” material files which can be interpreted by every common D|S version. Another approach could be that DAZ is providing a free “material preset converter” tool for DAZ-internal formats, in order to translate the newest “DUF” material file format back to “DSF” or even to “DSA/DSB/DSE”. But as it seems, DAZ is not interested at all to support their existing community. In the meantime you almost get the impression that Poser users are more welcome than DAZ users, as all you need in Poser is just to install that DSON stuff and everything is set and ready to go. For DAZ 4.0 users no support can be expected anymore, especially in conjunction with that belated “DSF” to “DUF” format change nobody needs.

The only opportunity left for me is to stick on the V4 figure and to spend more money buying at other stores like Renderosity or Content Paradise, which are now my preferred choice over DAZ. The simple reason is that there are many vendors who seem to keep an eye on the compatibility of their offered products, as they are very interested to keep them functional for a wide range of different platforms and their versions. All that proprietary stuff recently introduced by DAZ, especially forcing their own users to upgrade to buggy new versions is not what I expected for my work. As long as DAZ doesn’t realize that it’s up to them changing their mind and behavior, finding an acceptable solution to support their own applications correctly, it will be hard to continue supporting their store, regardless how many new base figures they might have released in the meantime.

As I already wrote in one of my other threads: compatibility is the magic word. But it seems DAZ has lost its magic.

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Posted: 13 August 2013 01:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 156 ]
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IconicPoser - 13 August 2013 10:48 AM

Unfortunately the latest D|S versions are still buggy.

I totally disagree with you on that point. 4.5 once out of beta and 4.6 have been superior to 4.0 running on Windows 7 64.

You need a relatively new version of Poser to run DSON as I understand, so many Poser people aren’t happy either.

As for V6, why should a brand new product be made to run on older software, when they are giving away the latest?

I agree with you 100% on the readme issue though. grin

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Posted: 13 August 2013 02:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 157 ]
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I am turned off with the whole incompatibility between G1 and G2 and now slowly trying to force me to use DIM. I am speaking with my wallet and no longer am purchasing anything here… In reality most of us are hobbyist and could prolly still go far using DS3A…

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Posted: 13 August 2013 03:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 158 ]
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...I hear you on that as my favourite outdoor light set to this day only works in 3A.  I was totally bummed out when LDP-R was released after I learned that to create the same effects I could with LDP2 and MoodMAster2, it required I also have an expensive pro grade application (I even had placed LDP-R on my wishlist).

This brings up one of my major peeves with Daz which markets it’s own and brokered products primarily to the hobbyist’s/enthusiast’s market but then turns around and only supports bridging/linking to professional grade software that many of us in that category cannot afford.

OK I’ll admit, the above case is the vendor’s choice, but shouldn’t Daz, being the broker, be able to step in and request that it also work with more affordable software so it can be used by a larger segment of it’s customer base? Wouldn’t that benefit both Daz and the plugin vendor?

For example, PSPX5 can now open and use .abr brushes without needing conversion. This suddenly opens up a wider customer base for Deviney’s wonderful brush sets as PSP costs a fraction of what Photoshop/PhotoshopCS does.

This is the one thing that bothers me.  Yes, we are hobbyists, which means a lot of us don’t have deep pockets for purchasing high priced professional software tools to assist our work. Daz really needs to look into promoting links with the more affordable/free tools many of us use like GIMP Blender, PSP, and/or SIlo.

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Posted: 13 August 2013 05:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 159 ]
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I know you are referring to LDP_R needing PS luckily I have CS5, one of the benefits of selling custom stories. I have to give DAZ props I guess they are reading the forums and contacted me asking what my concerns were. I want to be clear I have nothing against any of the products or DIM. I just want to be given a choice.  I was not the only one soured with their decision to make us start all over again going from V5 to V6 but I suppose it may have been the same going from V3 to V4 which was before my time so I can’t compare..

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Posted: 13 August 2013 05:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 160 ]
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...I wish they’d listen and talk to those like myself who can’t afford the high end stuff


I just want a simple “LDP” plugin for Daz which is easy to use like it’s predecessor and has the wonderfully detailed skydomes DreamLight is famous for.

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Posted: 13 August 2013 05:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 161 ]
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I have “known” you for quite a while from Rogerbee’s thread and we both talked about our enjoyment of LDP but to be honest Lux has waayyy surpassed it for me…

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Posted: 13 August 2013 06:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 162 ]
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Kyoto Kid - 13 August 2013 05:45 PM

...I wish they’d listen and talk to those like myself who can’t afford the high end stuff


I just want a simple “LDP” plugin for Daz which is easy to use like it’s predecessor and has the wonderfully detailed skydomes DreamLight is famous for.

KK you can still use LDP2 in DS4.6 if you still have DS3A and the content installed. It only takes a few extra steps.

Step one: Set DS4.6 to read your DS3 content folder as both of course.
Step two: Set up your LDP2 in DS3 and SAVE as a Scene file to the Default Scene folder in the DS3 content folder.
Step three: Note the Sky Dome SIZE down. To use in a latter step. and Close DS3.
Step four: Open DS4.6 go to the DS3 scene file and load it. It will look crap but loads.
Step five: Select the Sky Dome and Scale it back up to Size used in DS3.
Step Six: Select all lights in the Scene tab and Parent to the Sky Dome.

In step two be sure you set up all your ambient lights and others before you save, you can not ADD any in DS4.6. You can adjust the lights settings in DS4.6 but not set them up properly by hand very easily.
This works very well for single renders. Not at all for animated renders which I need it for.

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Posted: 13 August 2013 07:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 163 ]
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I feel like the odd man out here. Sure, I have to log into the site when I return, but once is it until I close my browser (Firefox on Mac). When I hit an item I’ve already purchased, the site says so, even for items that were bundled. The grey color scheme sucks though. I do like the filtering ability on my purchase history.

My buying here has been sporadic for years now. I don’t buy as much as I used to, but that is more due to being able to find it all in Studio and remember what I have. The UI for Studio 4 is a mass of confusion for me too.

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Posted: 13 August 2013 09:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 164 ]
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I sometimes buy StoneMason type products- and similar products from others.
My buying from all sites has slowed down recently.
I am off of the Genesis thing after handing over a few hundred to Daz. It sort of works with Poser- and sort of not.
Easier to use V4-WM or the new Dawn character. I make my own morphs so not having many face shapes starting out is not really a problem.

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Posted: 13 August 2013 09:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 165 ]
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With them contacting me (I am not going to reveal the contents of the conversation since as I learned yesterday violates rule 15 of the TOS)
asking for my feedback means they are reading and taking our concerns seriously perhaps. I wonder if there has been a drop in business or they are simply offering good CS, since as they claimed V6 has been their biggest seller. Either way I always appreciate good CS…. It’s also the reason I am Reality user..

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