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No Nude allowed…but Gore is OK??
Posted: 16 November 2012 03:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Here’s what I see as a difference: 1) This is to demonstrate a product in the store as an exception because there was a necessity to show how the product works (since it’s a bit more detailed than just some breast shots), not anyone’s personal work that could be posted anywhere. And 2) there was permission from DAZ to do this in this way. To tie it in with someone wanting to post their personal stuff really doesn’t compare.

Hopefully they can get the filters working in the forum again, but until then this discussion really isn’t going to go anywhere other than complaining.

I like nudity.  I like gore.  So I’m looking at this from a neutral point of view. 

This is just an observation.  NGM for Genesis Female came out recently.  It was a product in the store, but the PA gave links to other sites to show the unrestricted images.  The dA page had over a thousand views in 24 hrs. cheese

I’m guessing the anti-gore group would want something similar with the gory images as links rather than actually displaying it here.
Or at the very least, a compromise, and have the main image as one of the secondary images where, in order for someone to see it, they would have to intentionally go to the product page.

 

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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I think some of the other promo images for that product would be more appropriate for the main image (and certainly for a banner in the forums) than the one with the samurai, even I’m a little put off by that image. I can’t blindly agree with Rawn and MM on this issue; that picture should be the last of the promo images so that only those who are interested in the product would see it.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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I miss the “Family Site” feeling was Daz in the past, if I can remember well, that was a underground slogan in the past days.

is very difficult insert html5 or any form of applets for such filter modes?, like larsmidnatt said, not everyone is the target audience, and yep, dA got many views of customers being redirected for just a bunch of images for, if any interested, again doing a back in their browsers for buy the product, btw, dA is powerful, I haven’t submitted a single render on my dA account since October 18, 2011… and 50 minutes ago there still fans looking for my works.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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I am not allowed to go to Renderotica anymore because of what I said to them about the violent content they sell that shows women being tortured, dismembered, stabbed and mutilated. I think it’s sick and do not understand how people create it, people buy it and the site sells it. Just an opinion.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Ledhead - 16 November 2012 03:51 PM

I am not allowed to go to Renderotica anymore because of what I said to them about the violent content they sell that shows women being tortured, dismembered, stabbed and mutilated. I think it’s sick and do not understand how people create it, people buy it and the site sells it. Just an opinion.

yeah thats why I don’t go there either. I like my boobies and all but I don’t like the sick stuff they have there. don’t forget the cooking pots…argh

I am not comparing the product at hand to that stuff though. I can see normal folks needing limbs in their projects and I think it can be sold here. just displayed differently.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Wow…what a thread…

Boobies and Gore…

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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Ledhead - 16 November 2012 03:51 PM

I am not allowed to go to Renderotica anymore because of what I said to them about the violent content they sell that shows women being tortured, dismembered, stabbed and mutilated. I think it’s sick and do not understand how people create it, people buy it and the site sells it. Just an opinion.

yeah thats why I don’t go there either. I like my boobies and all but I don’t like the sick stuff they have there. don’t forget the cooking pots…argh

I am not comparing the product at hand to that stuff though. I can see normal folks needing limbs in their projects and I think it can be sold here. just displayed differently.

I agree, this product certainly doesn’t fall into that category. Yeah I forgot about having a woman for dinner and I don’t mean she joins you. Sick indeed.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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mjc1016 - 16 November 2012 04:02 PM

Wow…what a thread…

Boobies and Gore…

lovely image of the birds…but they can’t be displayed here. snake

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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There are several things to keep in mind when one decides to delve into the world of 3D art plus visit all the 3D art websites;

- There are people from all over the world who do 3D art and there is a high probability that their view of what is acceptable/not acceptable is going to be different from yours.

- When you visit the different websites that sell various 3D products, there is a high probability that their view of what is acceptable/not acceptable is going to be different from yours.

Food for thought…...

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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I have a feeling my previous post will be removed because people find it offensive that I find it offensive.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Ledhead - 16 November 2012 03:51 PM

I am not allowed to go to Renderotica anymore because of what I said to them about the violent content they sell that shows women being tortured, dismembered, stabbed and mutilated. I think it’s sick and do not understand how people create it, people buy it and the site sells it. Just an opinion.

The erotization of pain, injury, and death is a semi-common sexual kink — although it seems to be distributed somewhat unevenly across the gender lines, there are plenty of women who enjoy it both catching and pitching.  I’m sure RawArt’s excellent product is going to be a big hit with the decapitation and cannibalism fetishists (among many others) regardless of the preferred gender of their virtual victims.

But that’s getting a bit off-topic.  I agree with Mr Leong’s point — both the Natural Gravity Breast Morphs for Genesis and Severed Man provide needed functionality for Genesis even though what they can do is difficult to show under this site’s ToS and guidelines, therefor similar care and sensitivity should be applied to the marketing of both products.  Specifically (and IMHO), bloody severed limbs that are getting a special exemption in the product’s promo topic do not belong in a sigline that goes everywhere on the forums, nor do they belong in the product’s first promo shot.  And the expression on that severed head is really disturbing (which is kudos for evocative artwork, but problematic in a promo).

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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zilvergrafix - 16 November 2012 02:07 PM

Sincerely I can’t understand this, we cannot show simply art with a few bits skin colored in sensible areas, right?, but we can post Gore images of people being ripped in parts!!???.

Yep.  Daz is based in the U.S., where toy stores can sell video games that allow the player to beat up prostitutes, run over pedestrians and mindlessly mow down hundreds of people with guns, but the idea of seeing naked breasts is somehow considered far more offensive. It makes little sense on a site that’s theoretically devoted to the creation of art, but that’s how it is.  (And yet, ironically, almost all X-rated digital comics are built around Daz assets anyway.  Go figure.)

It does make sense on this website given what you said in your own post, that they are based in the US. DAZ is unfortunately subject to US laws and US puritanical pressures, and if I were them, I would err on the side of caution too. They aren’t a huge corporate entity that can withstand a lot of legal hassles.

I think it’s both sad and stupid that this is the case, but I think it’s even sadder and stupider to blame DAZ for the constraints under which they have chosen to acquiesce to. They are a small business in a specialty market just trying to make a profit, not an organization fighting for the right to bare breasts (though an extremely worth cause it is).

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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DAZ being based in the US has nothing to do with showing nudity. It is by their own choice and right.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 04:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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These severed promo pics seem very tame looking to me….. just showing a cool new product .... which is the purpose. You would really have to have a sheltered life to be offended by these pics (Of course I have all five of the Final Destination DVDs) I would also like to have nude promo pics for male and female characters so you can actually see the full product you are buying…. maybe with some thumbnail warning like other stores.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 05:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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I don’t have a sheltered life. I’m not offended. I don’t like them. I find them sick. I can appreciate they need to be shown but I don’t wish to have them forced upon me. I find interesting that US folk are so puritanical about rendered boobies but blood, guts are gore get’s inflicted on people willy nilly.

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