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No Nude allowed…but Gore is OK??
Posted: 16 November 2012 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Money rules above law, that’s the ecuation here.
nonsense is looking for unrestricted images in facebook for NGM4Gen and not doing the same with Gore.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Misty Whisky - 16 November 2012 02:56 PM

i find it upsetting that it’s a white guy chopped up.  makes it so clearly not fantasy violence, like zombie apocalypse

Yeah I thought that too, if it was a zombie it might have been better, and the guys expression doesn’t really help any.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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RawArt - 16 November 2012 02:49 PM

“If all they get is complaints everytime they try to lighten things up..then they really wont be very responsive to doing it anymore.

^That.

This thread is totally backwards

This is missing a word. wink

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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well now you are just criticizing my art….that is totally beyond the point.

not that I have to justify my choices…but the texture on the dead guy is my corpse texture from the “Good as dead” set.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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It’s a lot less about the vendor then it is about daz. So Rawart you shouldn’t be taking anything personally. And if I were to critique your art, that would wholly be within scope.

The point is, the point that is being missed, ..


Wait, wait. Screw that so now your posting your severed art in your footer so you can bring it everywhere you go. I thought richard said the gore was staying in your thread? *sigh* I don’t get it really.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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RawArt - 16 November 2012 03:03 PM

well now you are just criticizing my art….that is totally beyond the point.
not that I have to justify my choices…but the texture on the dead guy is my corpse texture from the “Good as dead” set.

NO! your art is OK!, really, that’s WHY we are speaking about that, because of the graphical violence!, if you art were bad would be just passed away.

because you did a splendid and magnificent work of the Gore concept, capisce?

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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larsmidnatt - 16 November 2012 02:59 PM

Not really backwards. If you are going to open the doors do it right. A violence filter should have been added a long time ago.

Don’t get mad at people for speaking, seems a common problem these days.

I personally don’t want to stumble on those kind of images on product listing pages. So I’m wrong for saying that?

Here’s what I see as a difference: 1) This is to demonstrate a product in the store as an exception because there was a necessity to show how the product works (since it’s a bit more detailed than just some breast shots), not anyone’s personal work that could be posted anywhere. And 2) there was permission from DAZ to do this in this way. To tie it in with someone wanting to post their personal stuff really doesn’t compare.

Now if it was just a grey textureless object, I’d bet people would complain that they don’t know if it’s worth the price because they can’t see the use for it… then people would be asking for renders of the product and then complain because they couldn’t be shown in the forum.

Hopefully they can get the filters working in the forum again, but until then this discussion really isn’t going to go anywhere other than complaining.

 

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Anyway back to my point, Daz should have put the gore filter in, along with the nudity filter in a long time ago. And if they wanted to have a gorey product in the store, they should have had the sense to make the product image tamer so those of us who did not request to see it don’t have to.

now I have to see the product image anytime I shop since it will be in new releases and at the top of many searches that are sorted by release date.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Male-M3dia - 16 November 2012 03:10 PM
larsmidnatt - 16 November 2012 02:59 PM

Not really backwards. If you are going to open the doors do it right. A violence filter should have been added a long time ago.

Don’t get mad at people for speaking, seems a common problem these days.

I personally don’t want to stumble on those kind of images on product listing pages. So I’m wrong for saying that?

Here’s what I see as a difference: 1) This is to demonstrate a product in the store as an exception because there was a necessity to show how the product works (since it’s a bit more detailed and just some breast shots), not anyone’s personal work that could be posted anywhere. And 2) there was permission from DAZ to do this in this way. To tie it in with someone wanting to post their personal stuff really doesn’t compare.

Now if it was just a grey textureless object, I’d bet people would complain that they don’t know if it’s worth the price because they can see the use for it… then people would be asking for renders of the product and then complain because they couldn’t be shown in the forum.

Hopefully they can get the filters working in the forum again, but until then this discussion really isn’t going to go anywhere other than complaining.

 

You dont need to show me how the product works on the index page. And i never said anyting about personal stuff, i really don’t care about that. I’ve never used these forums for that purpose. I’m talking about the store here. There is nothing wrong with doing what places like renderosity or even RDNA do. If you want to see the mature content you have to actually select the image.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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larsmidnatt - 16 November 2012 03:13 PM

You dont need to show me how the product works on the index page. And i never said anyting about personal stuff, i really don’t care about that. I’ve never used these forums for that purpose. I’m talking about the store here. There is nothing wrong with doing what places like renderosity or even RDNA do. If you want to see the mature content you have to actually select the image.

RDNA has buttcheeks and nudes as part of their webpage going into the store… it’s also in their forums as well. Rendo skirts their nudity right at the line. Even if the product is on the index page, you still gotta squint to see the thumbnail… unlike how you’ll get immediately hit on the other sites.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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larsmidnatt - 16 November 2012 03:13 PM

You dont need to show me how the product works on the index page. And i never said anyting about personal stuff, i really don’t care about that. I’ve never used these forums for that purpose. I’m talking about the store here. There is nothing wrong with doing what places like renderosity or even RDNA do. If you want to see the mature content you have to actually select the image.

exactly!, that’s the real point here!!, not the product, but the way how is exposed.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Male-M3dia - 16 November 2012 03:17 PM

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RDNA has buttcheeks and nudes as part of their webpage going into the store… it’s also in their forums as well. Rendo skirts their nudity right at the line. Even if the product is on the index page, you still gotta squint to see the thumbnail… unlike how you’ll get immediately hit on the other sites.

I think I must have missed that at RDNA, haven’t been in months but I remember when I was buying a few products I had to click on thumbs to see the nudes.

Same with Renderosity, they aren’t all that consistent (but moderation never is anywhere) but I know that I see an effort.

There was no effort in this case on Daz’s part. And no I don’t have to squint to see it, thumbnails are rather large.  And I know I’m not *strange* or *backward*, I just happen to have an opinion is all.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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I’ve got to say I find the Gore disturbing and it would be nice if there was a filter, now I see it’s in a signature so I can’t avoid it. Joy.

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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anikad - 16 November 2012 03:28 PM

I’ve got to say I find the Gore disturbing and it would be nice if there was a filter, now I see it’s in a signature so I can’t avoid it. Joy.

It’s a very passive aggressive way to go about it. Throw it in your face. I understand advertising and all but not everyone is the target audience ( or wants to see dismemberment).

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Posted: 16 November 2012 03:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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Male-M3dia - 16 November 2012 03:10 PM

Here’s what I see as a difference: 1) This is to demonstrate a product in the store as an exception because there was a necessity to show how the product works (since it’s a bit more detailed than just some breast shots), not anyone’s personal work that could be posted anywhere. And 2) there was permission from DAZ to do this in this way. To tie it in with someone wanting to post their personal stuff really doesn’t compare.

Hopefully they can get the filters working in the forum again, but until then this discussion really isn’t going to go anywhere other than complaining.

I like nudity.  I like gore.  So I’m looking at this from a neutral point of view. 

This is just an observation.  NGM for Genesis Female came out recently.  It was a product in the store, but the PA gave links to other sites to show the unrestricted images.  The dA page had over a thousand views in 24 hrs. cheese

I’m guessing the anti-gore group would want something similar with the gory images as links rather than actually displaying it here.
Or at the very least, a compromise, and have the main image as one of the secondary images where, in order for someone to see it, they would have to intentionally go to the product page.

 

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