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Posted: 13 November 2012 02:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 316 ]
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Redfern - 12 November 2012 05:52 PM

If one counts a design that was made but we never saw clearly “in story”, then as early as 1979’s “Star Trek: the Motion Picture”, we had Andorians with visibly human ears in addition to their antennae.  The antennae themselves were radically changed, being relocated from the back third of the skull to the forehead, and tapered into thin “feelers”, losing the “lobe”-like structure they had the three times they were depicted in the classic series.  You can see the design on the linked page.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Andorian_female_2270s.jpg

But since no close-up footage appears in any of the distributed cuts of the film, some fans opted to discount that design.  Alas, with the release of the fourth movie, “The Voyage Home”, we were shown a bald Andorian who, though having antennae closely matching Fred Phillips’ sculpt debuted in “Journey to Babel”, also had clearly visible human ears, thus negating the long standing fanon notion the antennae were auditory receptors.

Next Generation briefly depicted a holodeck image of an Andorian nearly everyone wants to discount…

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/File:Lal_as_Andorian.jpg

...and finally with Enterprise we meet Shran and the design appears to be a blending of the “...Babel” motif and the “unseen” design from ST:tMP.  The antennae sprout from the upper forehead but they retain a lobe-like structure, just somewhat smaller.

I’m definitely “old school” and grew up the notion the antennae were their “ears”.  But to avoid any controversy, I just make sure any Andorians I depict have hair that cover the sides of their heads.  Thus I leave it the viewer to decide if they have human ears or not.

Sincerely,

Bill

I pretty much agree, Bill. I would’ve preferred the Andorians just had antennae, but perhaps I’m a little more open to the idea from the years I played with the FASA Trek RPG back in the ‘80s & ‘90s.

Despite the obvious, and sometimes unfortunate, laziness/cost-cutting results of the makeup departments on the various shows and films, we should remember that nothing in canon actually dictates that Andorians can’t have both types of auditory organs—a lower frequency “ear” & a higher frequency range “antenna”. If I recall, the article about the Andorians from FASA had said as much.

While it might be pushing Trek-science to suggest that a species could truely evolve two distinct hearing organs, there is prescedence in nature: Pit-vipers have both eyes that can see normal light & heat-sensing pits on their faces—the shape of the dimples helps the snakes determine the direction and distance of warm-blooded prey—which essentially gives them a rudementary infrared “vision”. Perhaps if the snakes are given a evolutionary reason to enhance those organs, in a hundred million years or so, we may even find a few that develop true infrared eyes.

BTW, that FASA article did, after all, describe Andorians having four “sexes”—decades before “Enterprise” made it canon.

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Posted: 13 November 2012 04:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 317 ]
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If Andorians didn’t have ears, how would they keep glasses on their heads?

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Posted: 13 November 2012 04:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 318 ]
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Created as a request by master-ninjabear ( http://master-ninjabear.deviantart.com/ ) as a cover for his Star Trek TNG Novel: Lost & Found which can be read here: http://deepspace13shipyard.angelfire.com/index.html

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Posted: 13 November 2012 04:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 319 ]
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ssgbryan - 13 November 2012 04:17 PM

If Andorians didn’t have ears, how would they keep glasses on their heads?

As a glasses-wearer, I’ve often wondered that.  I speculate that they would have found a method that suited them.  There have been many different techniques used by humans over the centuries as well.

As a participant in the SCA, I’ve also wondered just how you would design a knight’s helmet for an Andorian.  I never came up with any practical answers, though.

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Posted: 13 November 2012 04:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 320 ]
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ssgbryan - 13 November 2012 04:17 PM

If Andorians didn’t have ears, how would they keep glasses on their heads?

First, drink the contents. Then, use a blob of glue.

Wait, that doesn’t sound right even to me...  wink

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Posted: 13 November 2012 05:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 321 ]
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Actually, if the contents contain alcohol, it sounds very good to me!  [grin]

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Posted: 13 November 2012 10:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 322 ]
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Then of course there’s the few people already who ‘hear’ through the skin on their face!

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Posted: 14 November 2012 10:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 323 ]
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Good news and bad news. The good news is that I’m done with the Romulan Tunic and Tabbard textures and will be releasing them as a freebie soon. The bad news is that I’m not even going to try making MAT Poses this time. I’ll include all the texture files and Material files so that, even if you have to load everything manually, you’ll still be able to use it whether you use Poser or Daz.

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Posted: 14 November 2012 12:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 324 ]
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blubeetle3 - 14 November 2012 10:11 AM

Good news and bad news. The good news is that I’m done with the Romulan Tunic and Tabbard textures and will be releasing them as a freebie soon. The bad news is that I’m not even going to try making MAT Poses this time. I’ll include all the texture files and Material files so that, even if you have to load everything manually, you’ll still be able to use it whether you use Poser or Daz.

Thank you very much for all of your hard work on this.  I really appreciate it.

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Posted: 14 November 2012 01:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 325 ]
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Well, it’s in Renderosity’s hands now. I’ll post a link as soon as they accept it.

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Posted: 14 November 2012 01:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 326 ]
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RawArt’s Rae-El Demon makes for an interesting crew member

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Posted: 15 November 2012 12:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 327 ]
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Not as obvious as I wished, but I gave a go at antenna jewelry, too - this is also a bracelet (“Kyrie 2” - unfortunately, it’s been in my runtime so long that I have no idea who created it :( ), which I scaled and then duplicated and placed on both stalks. I hope we’ll see more of this sort of thing - it just seems so obvious!

Also, I used the DAZ alien morph pack for V3 to add some forehead sculpting to her, and to eliminate her ears. The hair is AprilYSH‘s “Rievel” (love this piece!), which includes ear location morphs, so I just ‘lowered her ears’ until the gap was filled in.

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Posted: 15 November 2012 01:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 328 ]
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ssgbryan - 07 November 2012 10:06 AM

Oh my…....

That is so full of awesome!!

Thanks! :) And thanks, GRFK DSGN Unlimited.

I just checked my upload folder, and lo and behold, the “Cage” base is in there still! Someone else had requested it - what, a couple years ago? - I don’t recall who wanted it at the time (it’s in one of the old, now-lost threads :( )

Give this a shot: http://www.ptrope.com/Star_Trek_Reanimated/Downloads/Cage_Base_WIP.zip

It replaces the entire base of the regular set, since the screen and forward sections on either side of it were part of the same model; it also includes the lift alcove. If it’s the same thing I rendered, it does NOT have the forward door.

Well, I have been playing around with this while PoserWorld prepares SFO Uniform for Tyler. 

I did a little more work with the original bridge & pulled out the front entrance and made it a separate prop - it is jammed in awkwardly by the environmental station (the weird angle is by design). The 1/2 size station fits, but I like the door better (It leads to the Captain’s Dayroom (i.e. the corridor prop)

Since this bridge is for an older ship, I am thinking about making at least 1 more change, taking out all of the grey station viewers & replacing them with the handy-dandy MARS viewer.

Good idea, bad idea? what does the crowd think?  Any other ideas, Bueller, Bueller….......

 

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Posted: 15 November 2012 01:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 329 ]
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thought I would get in on the andorians with antenna adorements
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Posted: 15 November 2012 08:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 330 ]
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Noticeing most people are putting rings on their Andorian’s antenna with the exception of Roy (Shadowhawk1)...his Andorian has her’s pierced as well. 

Since this tiny appendage is loaded down with nerve clusters according to Memory Alpha and Beta..I propose peirce the stalk would be the same as a ‘Prince Albert’.  Those who have them…wear them proudly.

Agreed?

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