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Posted: 08 January 2013 09:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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Pendraia - 08 January 2013 06:35 PM
Harry Dresden - 08 January 2013 06:56 AM

Hey, anyone who believes in themselves so much that they can convince an art dealer or anyone else to sell a Poser/DS render gets my vote.  My vote mind you, not my money. I don’t have $12K!

I think most people here are doing exactly what they always complain themselves about. You’re not excepting 3D renders as ‘art’ and therefore it’s ridiculousness for someone to charge heaps of money for a print because we know better than anyone else that what we do is just fooling around, it’s not art. Right? Well, that’s what your responses says! Shame on you for believing that nonsense. This guy should be given a medal for believing with his whole heart that he is indeed making art.

He obviously takes himself and his work serious and that is half the battle won right there. Familiarity breads contempt as they say and this topic is proof of that. Because we know how it’s done and understand the ‘magic’, all we end up seeing is ‘Blegh, I can do that too’. Art is not about medium, technique or knowledge. It’s about the magic. And when you can get others to see the magic they will want to own it for themselves. They don’t have poser or DS and they couldn’t care less if it was painted by Picasso or printed on an ‘inkjet’ printer.

This is really well said. I think too many of us are beginning to believe what we hear in CG forums that what we do isn’t art. Yes it is art!

What kind of quality of art depends on the skill level and artistic ability of the person creating it.

It’s nice to see this type of work being accepted in Art Galleries. It has always taken time when new art forms arrive for them to be accepted as fine art. The Early Impressionists were told to go away that their paint daubs weren’t art. Photographers were originally told the same both are now accepted. CG will eventually also earn it’s place it’s just going to take time…

edited to add just followed the link to the interview…he apparently works in Maya and creates from scratch. This is likely to be accepted quicker and earlier than using premade figures but that will also change with time…just my two cents.

I think too many of us have undervalued our own worth as artists, so it chafes us to see someone in the same basic field being valued so highly. This should be an inspiration to us, not something to belittle.

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Posted: 08 January 2013 09:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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You know what they say art is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it

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Posted: 08 January 2013 09:45 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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edited to add just followed the link to the interview…he apparently works in Maya and creates from scratch. This is likely to be accepted quicker and earlier than using premade figures but that will also change with time…just my two cents.

The two times I saw this artist’s prints at art shows I read the label on the wall, and talked to the art dealers about them.  Neither the labels nor the dealers said anything about Maya or about original or premade figures.  I doubt anyone shopping for art at these international art fairs have any idea about what Maya is.

Probably not…it’s not the general buyer who cares about that but other artists. The average art buyer will be buying either for investment or it appeals to them. My sister buys stuff for $3-5000 but she goes of what she likes and does it fit in her vision for her house. I’ve no doubt that she would pay $12000if she had it.

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Posted: 08 January 2013 09:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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Harry Dresden - 08 January 2013 06:56 AM

Hey, anyone who believes in themselves so much that they can convince an art dealer or anyone else to sell a Poser/DS render gets my vote.  My vote mind you, not my money. I don’t have $12K!

I think most people here are doing exactly what they always complain themselves about. You’re not excepting 3D renders as ‘art’ and therefore it’s ridiculousness for someone to charge heaps of money for a print because we know better than anyone else that what we do is just fooling around, it’s not art. Right? Well, that’s what your responses says! Shame on you for believing that nonsense. This guy should be given a medal for believing with his whole heart that he is indeed making art.

He obviously takes himself and his work serious and that is half the battle won right there. Familiarity breads contempt as they say and this topic is proof of that. Because we know how it’s done and understand the ‘magic’, all we end up seeing is ‘Blegh, I can do that too’. Art is not about medium, technique or knowledge. It’s about the magic. And when you can get others to see the magic they will want to own it for themselves. They don’t have poser or DS and they couldn’t care less if it was painted by Picasso or printed on an ‘inkjet’ printer.

This is really well said. I think too many of us are beginning to believe what we hear in CG forums that what we do isn’t art. Yes it is art!

What kind of quality of art depends on the skill level and artistic ability of the person creating it.

It’s nice to see this type of work being accepted in Art Galleries. It has always taken time when new art forms arrive for them to be accepted as fine art. The Early Impressionists were told to go away that their paint daubs weren’t art. Photographers were originally told the same both are now accepted. CG will eventually also earn it’s place it’s just going to take time…

edited to add just followed the link to the interview…he apparently works in Maya and creates from scratch. This is likely to be accepted quicker and earlier than using premade figures but that will also change with time…just my two cents.

I think too many of us have undervalued our own worth as artists, so it chafes us to see someone in the same basic field being valued so highly. This should be an inspiration to us, not something to belittle.

I agree to a point, we do tend to undervalue the value of our own work.

I don’t think it’s about belittling so much as unable to believe that someone spends that much on something that they are going to stick on the wall.  When money is tight it’s hard to believe that there are people out there that $12000 would mean so little to that they would spend it on a picture.  I must admit though that I have spent $3000 on a hand carved table with dragons on the pedestal base a few years ago. That’s the most I have ever spent on art though…

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Posted: 09 January 2013 09:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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Pendraia - 08 January 2013 09:53 PM

I agree to a point, we do tend to undervalue the value of our own work.

I don’t think it’s about belittling so much as unable to believe that someone spends that much on something that they are going to stick on the wall.  When money is tight it’s hard to believe that there are people out there that $12000 would mean so little to that they would spend it on a picture.  I must admit though that I have spent $3000 on a hand carved table with dragons on the pedestal base a few years ago. That’s the most I have ever spent on art though…

Yeah, well - a hand carved table is an ordeal of a magnitude greater than using the computer to render. I would rather spend money on tangible carved stuff than on a picture. An example (bought in Egypt, and it glows in the dark too!!)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/norse_graphics/4303654641/in/set-72157623158065505

Something I really wanted.

 

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Posted: 09 January 2013 11:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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Considering how much 3D content we accumulate, the amount of money we spend on it really adds up.  Especially, if the reason we have to buy a more powerful computer is so we can use a newer version of a 3D software.  And if we’re just hobbyists,  people outside of the 3D community probably thinks we’re the ones that are crazy.

On a more personal note, I’ve got comic books stacked up in odd places because I ran out of storage space.  The average price of a comic book is now about $3.50.  Doesn’t seem like much, but it adds up to about $150 worth per month for me.  Over the past 15 years, I’ve spent about $27,000 on comic books.  shock

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Posted: 11 January 2013 11:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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Ray Caesar makes renders that look like art.
http://www.raycaesar.com/

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Posted: 11 January 2013 11:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 53 ]
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Fauvist - 11 January 2013 11:07 PM

Ray Caesar makes renders that look like art.
http://www.raycaesar.com/

Had a look.  The girl in the phone booth “NightCall”  caught my eye.  It’s an impressive image.

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Posted: 15 January 2013 11:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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When they asked the guy why he was selling apples for $10,000.00 each he replied, “I only have to sell one.”

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