Mouse to the top right of the screen
move the mouse down the ‘charms’
They’re actually called that?
I hope you realised you just confirmed my worst fears, growing all through this thread, that everyone at Microsoft involved in the Win8 project is totally bonkers. This isn’t an OS for a desktop PC where you install and run programs, it’s a phone/tablet OS stuffed full of apps. I’m definitely giving this one a miss, let’s see if MS come to their senses in time for Win9 development.
Actually that’s been going on since win95 - “My Computer”... “Network Neighborhood”??!!? Who wrote this stuff - Mister Rodgers??
I hope someone is able to hack the code and write that code in as new layer ... kinda like some of those desktop enhancement apps out there. This is really not cool! Why would MS abandon this nifty and useful extra? Yea, I don’t plan on spending allot of time on the Start page! lol
As I understand it, the problem with the gadgets was that they were too insecure. Third party gadgets had been causing security issues. Athough I don’t know what extra safeguards have been employed with the new Win8 “Live Tiles”. 8-s Perhaps their presence on the START page offers more barriers to their ability to penetrate?
Actually the whole problem with security is essentially the WEB! Go back to computing in an isolated locked freezer and most of the security problems go away! 8-Q
But even the cavemen may have had to post guards at the mouth of the sacred art cave to keep the hackers out! At least the cavemen knew how to treat hackers. They’d probably hack them up and eat them. 8-o Sounds like a workable policy.
Who are you trying to kid? This is MICROSOFT you’re talking about. The place where security is left in the parking lot.
I’ve always skipped that in the past my not assigning a password but that no longer seems to be an option.
The first thing that happens is a default screen (one of five that came win Win-8 but I suppose that you can assign anything to it), and there it will sit until you click something (usually the Enter button).
Next comes the logon screen where I type in my password, thus validating all of Win-8’s Metro tiles and syncing them with the rest of the world.
After that (assuming that you haven’t added in a desktop replacement to go directly the desktop), you go to your Win-8 start menu.
I suppose that someone will eventually find a way to shorten all of this or maybe Microsoft will yield to public appeal with a SP1 but until then it’s workable.
And just how does this “sync with the rest of the world” work on a stand-alone computer?
I’ve always skipped that in the past my not assigning a password but that no longer seems to be an option.
The first thing that happens is a default screen (one of five that came win Win-8 but I suppose that you can assign anything to it), and there it will sit until you click something (usually the Enter button).
Next comes the logon screen where I type in my password, thus validating all of Win-8’s Metro tiles and syncing them with the rest of the world.
After that (assuming that you haven’t added in a desktop replacement to go directly the desktop), you go to your Win-8 start menu.
I suppose that someone will eventually find a way to shorten all of this or maybe Microsoft will yield to public appeal with a SP1 but until then it’s workable.
And just how does this “sync with the rest of the world” work on a stand-alone computer?
You can log onto the computer with a local account similar to the windows 7 log on,
you don’t need to log in with a Microsoft account, it just means the windows 8 apps (applications) wont update your personal mail, news or weather information etc or update the info for those apps on the little square tiles on the start menu.
A local account does not need a password to log onto the computer.
you can swap between account types at any time.
1. Windows key and type ‘netplwiz’ and it will bring up the Advanced User Accounts Control Panel. 2. Uncheck the checkbox “User must enter a username and password to use this computer.”, then click the “Apply” button. 3. Once the Automatic Log On Window appears, set the username and password that will be use during the startup of Windows 4. Reboot and watch it AutoLogin!
Note: This will work for both Local and Connected Accounts (in which case you type your Microsoft user account and password). Also works for Vista and 7.
Warning: Security wise this isn’t a great idea especially if your computer can get into the hands of others you don’t trust. So only do this if you are in a trusted environment.
Another benefit about a Connected Account, if properly hooked up to Skydrive, you will potentially have a mobile login, in other words, you log into your friend’s computer, you’ll boot to your desktop and have your experience, settings and files (and access to your Win8 Apps).
I believe Metro apps run sandboxed, which should make them more secure. On the other hand, a tile is pretty useless as a click since you can see it only on the start screen or by making it share the screen with another app, which uses up your available visible apps as far as I know.
I’m kinda like you - We used to draw pictures on cave walls to communicate - but we’ve been using this thing called an alphabet for a long time now. Written language was a big step up for mankind - now we’re goin back to pictographs? Give me menus and keyboards - I like reading words…
Yep, and I hear that there is a wonderful new invention. It’s a little box that you talk into and it instantly transcribes your speech into text and transmits it to a receiver that instantly translates it back into speech. This means that you don’t even have to have a full keyboard anymore. It faithfully reproduces all languages, dialects and vocal mannerisms and even singing. It’s called the “telephone”. :-s
Actually telephone doesn’t transcribes speech into the text, it transmutes the speech into a pattern of electronic pulses, I believe. IP phones transmute them as data packages which, while might be technically a text, aren’t a legible text.
1. Windows key and type ‘netplwiz’ and it will bring up the Advanced User Accounts Control Panel. 2. Uncheck the checkbox “User must enter a username and password to use this computer.”, then click the “Apply” button. 3. Once the Automatic Log On Window appears, set the username and password that will be use during the startup of Windows 4. Reboot and watch it AutoLogin!
Note: This will work for both Local and Connected Accounts (in which case you type your Microsoft user account and password). Also works for Vista and 7.
Warning: Security wise this isn’t a great idea especially if your computer can get into the hands of others you don’t trust. So only do this if you are in a trusted environment.
Another benefit about a Connected Account, if properly hooked up to Skydrive, you will potentially have a mobile login, in other words, you log into your friend’s computer, you’ll boot to your desktop and have your experience, settings and files (and access to your Win8 Apps).
Great info! Thanks so much!
Checked out Stardock a bit more and they do have a full Windows 8 experience ready to get. It’s about the same amount of money I paid for my Win 8 upgrade I bought yesterday via Amazon.com. But if it gives me back my widgets I’m happy! lol
Other than my objections noted above and the inherent confusion with any new interface, I find that Win8 appears to work,... except HOW DO YOU LOG OFF or TURN THE DAMN THING OFF? Arghhhhhh….... :-(
Mouse to the top right of the screen
move the mouse down the ‘charms’
click on Settings
click on Power and select from the list
or
if you like to use the Keyboard press the - Windows Key + i - to open the settings charm panel then use the tab or arrow keys and enter key to scroll through and make selections
or
Press the - Windows Key + r - and type - shutdown -s -t 0 - then press enter to shut down
or type - shutdown -r -t 0 - then press enter to restart
...a lot more clumsy than XP or WIn7.
I just go “Windows key” “u”, “u” (or “s” if I want to go on standby, “r” if I want to restart). Much more “elegant”.
One way to switch users, restart or shutdown is to use CTR-ALT-DEL. Boittom right has the power down button
I hated widgets. Too much drain on resources, especially since I got into 3D. Also, I have no idea why people b*tch about Windows so much. Windows 95 sucked (but technically, so did most computers compared to now), but I’ve never had major problems with the OS. Besides, if it was as bad as most people try to say, it wouldn’t still be be, by far, the dominant OS worldwide. Because ain’t no OS perfect.
so so true. I only use 3 main widgets. A clock on the second monitor, A memory widget but that’s from another company so maybe it will work on Win 8 and Control System which I just love, easy to shut down or reboot Windows with a lock on it so you don’t accidentally click on any buttons. I see there is a link to their website, maybe they have some info on that.
WELL….
It seems that all the talk about gadgets NOT being enabled on Win 8 is not altogether true… http://addgadgets.com/faq/#g18
It’s all right for someone used to the way things are done on modern phones and tablets, but is that really a good idea for a full OS used in a desktop PC?
I’ve been following Win 8 and from what I can see, this is MS making a last desperate effort to get into the Samsung/Apple territory - ie phones, where they’ve failed miserably. MS must feel enraged seeing Samsung sell 1/3 of the phones on the planet and make a fortune. LOL.
Of course, all the media hype so far has been on MS Surface, so we don’t hear much about the regular desktop side of Win 8. The problem is that for serious work, phones are tablets are crap, and MS don’t seem to realise that. The reasoning goes ‘Phones are trendy. We can make some money’ True, but the world will continue to use desktops are laptops for 95% of everyday work, so if MS abandon those users, they won’t be selling much. Already, most analysts are predicting that very few desktop users will upgrade to Win 8.
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Seems MS doesn’t realize most money comes from the business sector, and from what I’ve heard/read, very few - if ANY! - will upgrade to Win8. Most likely they’ll go for Win7 when they upgrade from WinXP. So, they trend is clear, they’ll miss those the money-makers, while those used to tablets/phones will keep to their Android (Samsung)/Apple-stuff. I really do not understand this incredibly stupid move.
