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Questions regarding free content ‘for’ purchased items in the store.
Posted: 25 October 2012 12:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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cridgit - 25 October 2012 09:50 AM
Hiro Protagonist - 25 October 2012 09:28 AM

I think this has a lot to do with whether you use Genesis extensively and have a lot of products that have metadata with them by default. I find it’s much easier using these products via Smart Content than from the DAZ Formats Content Library folder, which is even more confusing for me than the Poser Formats library. This gets you using SC and you start to see the benefits. Otherwise you aren’t going to see the point of it. By adding metadata to the rest of your stuff you will then only have one place to go for content instead of two or possibly three. I think it is newer users who are going to be more motivated to understand and use SC for this reason.

I’ve only fairly recently started using Smart Content for “runtime” stuff and I had up until that point extensively reorganized my runtime, but I now find SC more convenient. I’m also probably weird in quite enjoying adding metadata—I find it quite fun!


Me too! I think the enjoyment has to do with stimulating different parts of the brain. I’m at my happiest when I’ve got several things happening at once, and usually something technical like coding, something artsy like a Reality render, and something organizationy like my Smart Content and metadata. I find it very satisfying to have my stuff properly organized, and working with product thumbnails rather than files adds a tremendously pleasant aesthetic. I used to play Napoleonic wargames as a kid and I got a kick out of having my guns, dragoons and hussars all nicely lined up before battle grin

Please tell me if you think this is off-topic and I’ll edit it to say something sensible (and a little less embarrassing).

Well, I created my very first “metadata”. As one of the key .pdf files got damaged somehow in transferring between my online and offline computers; it was partly following one of the instruction .pdf files and partly guess work. End result, well it works on my computer and I’ll guess it might on somebody else’s wink

Notes I made ‘til about page 7…

tips for adding new items to Smart Content:

For the “Scan for New Files”, UNCHECK the “only new items”.

In discovering “how to” “where to” it could be that one puts a reference where it is not wanted. So yes one can ‘remove/delete REFERENCE’ ... and after removing all the references one may discover that no matter how many times the search for content is repeated one’s product is simply not going to reappear in the “Unassigned” section.

Brainwave Strikes Again! grin

Close D/S4 and open the real folders, slide to the Desktop the actual folder containing the desired product.

Open D/S4 and run the search for products gizmo.

Close D/S4.

Open the real folders and slide back into its place, the desired product waiting on the Desktop.

Open D/S4 and run the search again checking to look for ‘new’ ... and there it’ll be! grin  [was trying to get it to show up in the unassigned once more]

If I set up other categories are they only on my computer or will they also appear in other 4.0 programs in which this product is installed?

[we were told that Napoleon had cold hands and that’s why in his portraits he often had one hidden]

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Posted: 25 October 2012 09:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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Patience55 - 25 October 2012 12:29 PM
cridgit - 25 October 2012 09:50 AM
Hiro Protagonist - 25 October 2012 09:28 AM

I think this has a lot to do with whether you use Genesis extensively and have a lot of products that have metadata with them by default. I find it’s much easier using these products via Smart Content than from the DAZ Formats Content Library folder, which is even more confusing for me than the Poser Formats library. This gets you using SC and you start to see the benefits. Otherwise you aren’t going to see the point of it. By adding metadata to the rest of your stuff you will then only have one place to go for content instead of two or possibly three. I think it is newer users who are going to be more motivated to understand and use SC for this reason.

I’ve only fairly recently started using Smart Content for “runtime” stuff and I had up until that point extensively reorganized my runtime, but I now find SC more convenient. I’m also probably weird in quite enjoying adding metadata—I find it quite fun!


Me too! I think the enjoyment has to do with stimulating different parts of the brain. I’m at my happiest when I’ve got several things happening at once, and usually something technical like coding, something artsy like a Reality render, and something organizationy like my Smart Content and metadata. I find it very satisfying to have my stuff properly organized, and working with product thumbnails rather than files adds a tremendously pleasant aesthetic. I used to play Napoleonic wargames as a kid and I got a kick out of having my guns, dragoons and hussars all nicely lined up before battle grin

Please tell me if you think this is off-topic and I’ll edit it to say something sensible (and a little less embarrassing).

Well, I created my very first “metadata”. As one of the key .pdf files got damaged somehow in transferring between my online and offline computers; it was partly following one of the instruction .pdf files and partly guess work. End result, well it works on my computer and I’ll guess it might on somebody else’s wink

Notes I made ‘til about page 7…

tips for adding new items to Smart Content:

For the “Scan for New Files”, UNCHECK the “only new items”.

In discovering “how to” “where to” it could be that one puts a reference where it is not wanted. So yes one can ‘remove/delete REFERENCE’ ... and after removing all the references one may discover that no matter how many times the search for content is repeated one’s product is simply not going to reappear in the “Unassigned” section.

Brainwave Strikes Again! grin

Close D/S4 and open the real folders, slide to the Desktop the actual folder containing the desired product.

Open D/S4 and run the search for products gizmo.

Close D/S4.

Open the real folders and slide back into its place, the desired product waiting on the Desktop.

Open D/S4 and run the search again checking to look for ‘new’ ... and there it’ll be! grin  [was trying to get it to show up in the unassigned once more]

If I set up other categories are they only on my computer or will they also appear in other 4.0 programs in which this product is installed?

[we were told that Napoleon had cold hands and that’s why in his portraits he often had one hidden]

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editing to add that no, how I categorized the item did not travel over to the tester’s program. oh well ...

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Posted: 25 October 2012 11:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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So glad to hear you’ve done it! grin

Patience55 - 25 October 2012 12:29 PM

tips for adding new items to Smart Content:

For the “Scan for New Files”, UNCHECK the “only new items”.


You don’t need to uncheck this when you’ve just installed something or just created something. Its only after you “lost” a reference (as you described below) that you can do this to “find” the reference again in Unassigned.

Patience55 - 25 October 2012 12:29 PM

In discovering “how to” “where to” it could be that one puts a reference where it is not wanted. So yes one can ‘remove/delete REFERENCE’ ... and after removing all the references one may discover that no matter how many times the search for content is repeated one’s product is simply not going to reappear in the “Unassigned” section.


You can easily see all the references if you right-click in Content Library and select Categorize, the categories containing a reference to the selected item will be shaded. Unchecking some of these is the same as “remove reference” but it won’t let you uncheck all references so doing it this way will ensure you never “lose” a reference.

Patience55 - 25 October 2012 12:29 PM

Brainwave Strikes Again! grin

Close D/S4 and open the real folders, slide to the Desktop the actual folder containing the desired product.

Open D/S4 and run the search for products gizmo.

Close D/S4.

Open the real folders and slide back into its place, the desired product waiting on the Desktop.

Open D/S4 and run the search again checking to look for ‘new’ ... and there it’ll be! grin


Clever brainwave, but the long way grin It will reappear if you repeat the content search and uncheck Show Only New Items as you suggested above. Either use Categorize (not Remove Reference) as I explained above then you will never “lose” references, or repeat the search without Show Only New Items to rediscover all your lost references.

Patience55 - 25 October 2012 12:29 PM

If I set up other categories are they only on my computer or will they also appear in other 4.0 programs in which this product is installed?


Yes it will, but you need to save your product metadata file after adding the categories, otherwise they are not saved into the DSX file. I suggest you try to re-download part 3 of the tutorial as it explains how to distribute your metadata.

By the way, if you are going to be distributing your metadata, I suggest you read along with the rest of us on the guidelines here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/7542/ If everyone uses different guidelines it will become a complete mess.

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Posted: 26 October 2012 01:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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cridgit - 25 October 2012 11:59 PM

So glad to hear you’ve done it! grin

Thank you. The next one I try will be more complicated having the mats to include if all goes well.

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You can easily see all the references if you right-click in Content Library and select Categorize, the categories containing a reference to the selected item will be shaded. Unchecking some of these is the same as “remove reference” but it won’t let you uncheck all references so doing it this way will ensure you never “lose” a reference.

Yes however Brainy here was trying to make new categories and made quite the mess. I think it’s all cleared up now. Will take a peek another day wink

... edit ...

Clever brainwave, but the long way grin It will reappear if you repeat the content search and uncheck Show Only New Items as you suggested above. Either use Categorize (not Remove Reference) as I explained above then you will never “lose” references, or repeat the search without Show Only New Items to rediscover all your lost references.

Well, if one has ‘accidentally’ put references in too many places and then forgets one here and there, it will not reappear in unassigned until those are all found and cleared. Then after telling the program to remove ‘em all; I wonder myself if it was a little too much and it simply wouldn’t recognize the item at all anymore. I was being careful to repeat the searches several times but it just wasn’t catching it. [no matter what I checked or unchecked] ... but thankfully the brainwave worked and “all’s well that ends well”. grin

Patience55 - 25 October 2012 12:29 PM

If I set up other categories are they only on my computer or will they also appear in other 4.0 programs in which this product is installed?


Yes it will, but you need to save your product metadata file after adding the categories, otherwise they are not saved into the DSX file. I suggest you try to re-download part 3 of the tutorial as it explains how to distribute your metadata.

By the way, if you are going to be distributing your metadata, I suggest you read along with the rest of us on the guidelines here: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/viewthread/7542/ If everyone uses different guidelines it will become a complete mess.

Okay, I don’t recall in which order that was made so I’ll make note to try that over and see what happens.

Thanks for the link, I’ll check it out.
Also having these happy memories of when I first shared out anything ... since there was no where a clear concept of “how to make a mat file” ... I simply redistributed the flat piece of image and let people do whatever they wanted with it. Given the number of programs available at the moment and how each has its own quirks, that might turn out to be the best way. We’ll see how things go next month.

edit: found thread. hehehe okay ... well I got the ‘actor’ part right grin

No themes!!!! .... “no comment” ...

“happy memories” ... hehehe .... might do the mat files though since I now have a mat creator wink

Cheers

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