Heroes, Heroines and 3D Graphics - July Freebie Contest

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,387
    edited July 2012

    Ugh Music where are you, we need you to come and clear this thing up please.

    Paging Music.

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  • jeeperzjeeperz Posts: 1,077
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    Oom, to try and clarify it a bit. A freebie, as far as the freebie challenge is concerned, is an item that is not only freely avaliable for everyone to download, but can be obtained without spending any money. Hence the reason any figures from Poser are counted as pay for items, because they are only available if you have purchased Poser.

    Equally the free items that were given away with DS are not counted because they are ony available to DS users. They can be used, but as non counting items. THere are several different reasons why not everyone uses DS, including the fact that some people do not have computers with sufficient specs to run the app.

    Anything that you make yourself is only counted as a freebie as far as the freebie count is concerned if having made it you then make it available for everyone else to also download and use if they want to.

    Hope that helps.

    It makes sense, but you just contradicted what jeeperz said last night. See my problem?

    jeeperz said:
    JesterVII said:
    Dollygirl said:
    me too Alexa, that's what I thought

    Well I went back and looked at the rules. Music is silent on content that is provided by a software package. I personally think that it should be eligible. It is content that came with a free version of DAZ. Now the Poser content I am not so sure about. I have Debut and it came with 2 or 3 Gig of content. I got Debut free last Dec. I bought PoserPro2010 and got some additional content Debut did not have. So for the Debut content my take is it is a no count. No link but I didn't pay for it. The stuff that came with Poser Pro I would count as paid for because I paid for the software that it came with even though renders with Poser are allowed.

    So does that stuff count or not? After reading all the posts I am lost.


    that would be a NO, it counts under the misc items that don't count



    jeez OOm, we both said basically the same thing, content in the program you are using doesn't count, no matter how you say it, you can put it under misc or just mention what it is, either way it's the same thing buddy

  • jeeperzjeeperz Posts: 1,077
    edited December 1969

    I would throw some pies in the forum but I think the fun is gone now...

  • wweswwes Posts: 444
    edited July 2012

    Okay, this was fun. This one is an entry. I'll list freebies and paid products by panel, but only if it is visible and new in that panel.
    *Free registration required
    Rendered in DS 4.0, cartoon setting. Compiling and borders created using GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/downloads/), speech bubbles created with Inkscape (http://inkscape.org/).

    Title: "I've Got This."

    Panel 1:
    Freebies
    1.* Dystopia city blocks http://www.daz3d.com/shop/dystopia-city-blocks-001-010-lwo/
    2. *Stinger and Mitsu hair both free in this bundle http://www.daz3d.com/shop/free-3d-models-and-content/anime-star-fighter/
    3.* Sickleyield trench coat http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=60788
    4. *Joequick M4 sci-fi armor http://www.sharecg.com/v/49584/gallery/11/Poser/M4-Sci-Fi-Armor-with-ParrotDolphin-Materials
    5.* ...and for V4 http://www.sharecg.com/v/50021/gallery/11/Poser/V4-Sci-Fi-Armor
    Paid items
    1. Girl hair http://www.daz3d.com/shop/the-girl/

    Panel 2:
    Freebies
    6. *Mach 1.6 bodysuit for M4 http://www.sharecg.com/v/53731/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/M4-Mach-1.6-Free-Bodysuit
    7. *Actionspecs sunglasses http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=65792
    Paid items
    2. Isa texture http://www.daz3d.com/shop/aiko-4-isa-realistic-textures/
    3. Anime eyes for Aiko 4 http://www.daz3d.com/shop/anime-eyes-for-aiko-4/
    4. Morphs++

    Panel 3:
    None new--primitive planes used for motion lines.

    Panel 4:
    Freebies
    8.* Schell's muzzleflash and explosion kit http://www.sharecg.com/v/48515/gallery/11/Poser/3D-Explosion-and-Muzzleflash-Kit

    Panel 5:
    None new

    Panel 6:
    Freebies
    9. Salashin's space enviro kit (rings) http://blackraven3d.com/

    Panel 7:
    Freebies
    10. Adam Thwaite's hellfire http://www.most-digital-creations.com/free_poser_poses_textures_morphs_props_32.htm (a few down the page)

    Panel 8: Nothing new
    Panel 9: Nothing new
    Panel 10: Nothing new

    Panel 11:
    Freebies
    11. *The Fedora http://www.sharecg.com/v/42597/View/11/Poser/The-Fedora
    12.* http://www.sharecg.com/v/57155/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Plague-Doctor---Michael-4
    *Free registration required
    BIG version here: https://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pxCEqp3nsoV8KTY-LPyYq--kwPPmYwsdr0Lk1IPIcd-dI972wDgkpvPP3kBgwElmju-GNEuaeFue8y5ZfGxUeaA/snovabig.jpg?psid=1

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  • Oom FooyatOom Fooyat Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    jeeperz said:
    chohole said:
    Oom, to try and clarify it a bit. A freebie, as far as the freebie challenge is concerned, is an item that is not only freely avaliable for everyone to download, but can be obtained without spending any money. Hence the reason any figures from Poser are counted as pay for items, because they are only available if you have purchased Poser.

    Equally the free items that were given away with DS are not counted because they are ony available to DS users. They can be used, but as non counting items. THere are several different reasons why not everyone uses DS, including the fact that some people do not have computers with sufficient specs to run the app.

    Anything that you make yourself is only counted as a freebie as far as the freebie count is concerned if having made it you then make it available for everyone else to also download and use if they want to.

    Hope that helps.

    It makes sense, but you just contradicted what jeeperz said last night. See my problem?

    jeeperz said:
    JesterVII said:
    Dollygirl said:
    me too Alexa, that's what I thought

    Well I went back and looked at the rules. Music is silent on content that is provided by a software package. I personally think that it should be eligible. It is content that came with a free version of DAZ. Now the Poser content I am not so sure about. I have Debut and it came with 2 or 3 Gig of content. I got Debut free last Dec. I bought PoserPro2010 and got some additional content Debut did not have. So for the Debut content my take is it is a no count. No link but I didn't pay for it. The stuff that came with Poser Pro I would count as paid for because I paid for the software that it came with even though renders with Poser are allowed.

    So does that stuff count or not? After reading all the posts I am lost.


    that would be a NO, it counts under the misc items that don't count



    jeez OOm, we both said basically the same thing, content in the program you are using doesn't count, no matter how you say it, you can put it under misc or just mention what it is, either way it's the same thing buddy

    How about adding a few lines to the rules and have this done with for good?

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,387
    edited December 1969

    cheer up

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  • DollyGirlDollyGirl Posts: 1,693
    edited December 1969

    The cell shader I made for my entry is now up for download if anyone wants a peek.
    http://www.ShareCG.com/v/63572/view/7/Material-and-Shader/Cell-Shader-for-DAZ-Studio-4.0
    You will have to use Shader Mixer to apply it, I don't fully trust the other formats.


    I would appreciate if someone tried to load it in DS3. It is hard to tell if if will work there.


    Cheers! Oom

    Oom, I tried your shader out in DAZStudio3. Works just fine.

    Did you know that you could make a DAZ3 shader preset by just applying your shader to a surface and then going to the File->Save As->Shader Preset. When the box opens up I select custom and then expand the file list and click on product. Save it out as a dsa file and then both DAZ 4 and 3 can see the file.

    Lots of options with your shader and so simple, two bricks. Now that is way cool. I always end up with all sorts of bricks in my shaders. You must have a good understanding of how Renderman manipulates surfaces. Thanks again for providing this shader.
    Lonnie

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  • DollyGirlDollyGirl Posts: 1,693
    edited December 1969

    dleelaw57 said:
    Can we add a rule that at least every third pie tossed must be a Hershey chocolate pie.

    Any who, there are so many great entries this month I think I will be content with posting a few NAE renders just because they are fun.

    NAE

    Title: EXTRA EXTRA

    Ah a cute render. Thank you dleelaw57.

  • DollyGirlDollyGirl Posts: 1,693
    edited December 1969

    JesterVII said:
    Dollygirl said:
    robkelk said:
    Dollygirl said:
    The render qualifies Jester. Like the story going on and your abilities of creating a story from your renders is improving with each submital. Nice job.
    Lonnie

    On first reading, I read that as "... improving with each subliminal."

    But we would never use subliminals here... (make a render with Aiko 3!) Would we?

    No never! make a render with Apollo

    Just Cuase
    this is a NAE with Genesis and the AGU morph, A4, and Genesis with the A3 morph and Apollo

    Jester,
    :lol:

  • perlkperlk Posts: 127
    edited July 2012

    Hi guys, sorry I have been absent lately. I'm probably going to take a break for a month or so. Here's why.


    I am 17 weeks pregnant, and have been having some medical problems associated with pregnancy. There's only so much time in the day to do my work, doctor's appointments, and keeping up with real life!


    When I can get my conditions under control, I'll be back and updating the gallery!

    Post edited by perlk on
  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,387
    edited July 2012

    Woohoo Perl's busy rendering her own 2nd generation Perl. Great. Hope the problems get sorted out soon, and congrats again on the forthcoming new addition to your runtime.

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  • DollyGirlDollyGirl Posts: 1,693
    edited December 1969

    jeeperz said:
    I would throw some pies in the forum but I think the fun is gone now...

    Dear I sent you a PM.
    Lonnie

  • DollyGirlDollyGirl Posts: 1,693
    edited December 1969

    wwes said:
    Okay, this was fun. This one is an entry. I'll list freebies and paid products by panel, but only if it is visible and new in that panel.

    Rendered in DS 4.0, cartoon setting. Compiling and borders created using GIMP (http://www.gimp.org/downloads/), speech bubbles created with Inkscape (http://inkscape.org/).

    Title: "I've Got This."

    Panel 1:
    Freebies
    1. Dystopia city blocks http://www.daz3d.com/shop/dystopia-city-blocks-001-010-lwo/
    2. Stinger and Mitsu hair both free in this bundle http://www.daz3d.com/shop/free-3d-models-and-content/anime-star-fighter/
    3. Sickleyield trench coat http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=60788
    4. Joequick M4 sci-fi armor http://www.sharecg.com/v/49584/gallery/11/Poser/M4-Sci-Fi-Armor-with-ParrotDolphin-Materials
    5. ...and for V4 http://www.sharecg.com/v/50021/gallery/11/Poser/V4-Sci-Fi-Armor
    Paid items
    1. Girl hair http://www.daz3d.com/shop/the-girl/

    Panel 2:
    Freebies
    6. Mach 1.6 bodysuit for M4 http://www.sharecg.com/v/53731/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/M4-Mach-1.6-Free-Bodysuit
    7. Actionspecs sunglasses http://www.renderosity.com/mod/freestuff/details.php?item_id=65792
    Paid items
    2. Isa texture http://www.daz3d.com/shop/aiko-4-isa-realistic-textures/
    3. Anime eyes for Aiko 4 http://www.daz3d.com/shop/anime-eyes-for-aiko-4/
    4. Morphs++

    Panel 3:
    None new--primitive planes used for motion lines.

    Panel 4:
    Freebies
    8. Schell's muzzleflash and explosion kit http://www.sharecg.com/v/48515/gallery/11/Poser/3D-Explosion-and-Muzzleflash-Kit

    Panel 5:
    None new

    Panel 6:
    Freebies
    9. Salashin's space enviro kit (rings) http://blackraven3d.com/

    Panel 7:
    Freebies
    10. Adam Thwaite's hellfire http://www.most-digital-creations.com/free_poser_poses_textures_morphs_props_32.htm (a few down the page)

    Panel 8: Nothing new
    Panel 9: Nothing new
    Panel 10: Nothing new

    Panel 11:
    Freebies
    11. The Fedora http://www.sharecg.com/v/42597/View/11/Poser/The-Fedora
    12. http://www.sharecg.com/v/57155/gallery/21/DAZ-Studio/Plague-Doctor---Michael-4

    BIG version here: https://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pxCEqp3nsoV8KTY-LPyYq--kwPPmYwsdr0Lk1IPIcd-dI972wDgkpvPP3kBgwElmju-GNEuaeFue8y5ZfGxUeaA/snovabig.jpg?psid=1



    wwes, You have a nice story going on there. Lots of questions, the need to findout more and great graphics, all the right ingredients for a good render. You render qualifies. Please check your PMs for your entry prize.
    I have one request can you please go back and add an indication of the sites which require registration. Thank you so much for participating in the contest. I hope to see more.
    Lonnie

  • DollyGirlDollyGirl Posts: 1,693
    edited December 1969

    perlk said:
    Hi guys, sorry I have been absent lately. I'm probably going to take a break for a month or so. Here's why.


    I am 17 weeks pregnant, and have been having some medical problems associated with pregnancy. There's only so much time in the day to do my work, doctor's appointments, and keeping up with real life!


    When I can get my conditions under control, I'll be back and updating the gallery!

    Congratulations Mrs. P. I know you have wanted this for a long time. I hope things work out for the best so I send the best of luck your way.

  • Oom FooyatOom Fooyat Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    Dollygirl said:
    The cell shader I made for my entry is now up for download if anyone wants a peek.
    http://www.ShareCG.com/v/63572/view/7/Material-and-Shader/Cell-Shader-for-DAZ-Studio-4.0
    You will have to use Shader Mixer to apply it, I don't fully trust the other formats.


    I would appreciate if someone tried to load it in DS3. It is hard to tell if if will work there.


    Cheers! Oom

    Oom, I tried your shader out in DAZStudio3. Works just fine.

    Did you know that you could make a DAZ3 shader preset by just applying your shader to a surface and then going to the File->Save As->Shader Preset. When the box opens up I select custom and then expand the file list and click on product. Save it out as a dsa file and then both DAZ 4 and 3 can see the file.

    Lots of options with your shader and so simple, two bricks. Now that is way cool. I always end up with all sorts of bricks in my shaders. You must have a good understanding of how Renderman manipulates surfaces. Thanks again for providing this shader.
    Lonnie

    Nice render! :) Good to hear it will work in DS3 . There are a few more bricks then two, about 30 more, If you click on the menu in the upper right corner of the brick there is a UnGroup option that will show all the bricks, I hope. I no nothing of Renderman and just a little of Shader Mixer.
    Thank you for your help!
    Oom

  • perlkperlk Posts: 127
    edited December 1969

    Thanks all :-)

  • jeeperzjeeperz Posts: 1,077
    edited December 1969

    ooohhh... congrats perlk, take care of yourself, next generation on board.

  • DollyGirlDollyGirl Posts: 1,693
    edited December 1969

    Dollygirl said:
    The cell shader I made for my entry is now up for download if anyone wants a peek.
    http://www.ShareCG.com/v/63572/view/7/Material-and-Shader/Cell-Shader-for-DAZ-Studio-4.0
    You will have to use Shader Mixer to apply it, I don't fully trust the other formats.


    I would appreciate if someone tried to load it in DS3. It is hard to tell if if will work there.


    Cheers! Oom

    Oom, I tried your shader out in DAZStudio3. Works just fine.

    Did you know that you could make a DAZ3 shader preset by just applying your shader to a surface and then going to the File->Save As->Shader Preset. When the box opens up I select custom and then expand the file list and click on product. Save it out as a dsa file and then both DAZ 4 and 3 can see the file.

    Lots of options with your shader and so simple, two bricks. Now that is way cool. I always end up with all sorts of bricks in my shaders. You must have a good understanding of how Renderman manipulates surfaces. Thanks again for providing this shader.
    Lonnie

    Nice render! :) Good to hear it will work in DS3 . There are a few more bricks then two, about 30 more, If you click on the menu in the upper right corner of the brick there is a UnGroup option that will show all the bricks, I hope. I no nothing of Renderman and just a little of Shader Mixer.
    Thank you for your help!
    Oom


    Your welcome Oom.
    Well now it would seem that my Shader Mixer is broken. I only get two of the bricks. The shader works when applied but I can't see it all. Nuts! I did a stupid thing and loaded DAZStudio2 without a serial number it would seem that it does not play nice with the other two. Going to have to re-install them both again. Hope I can remember all of the scripts I added to them :bug:

  • DorseylandDorseyland Posts: 707
    edited December 1969

    PERLK: That is fantastic news, Perl -- congratulations! Get back soon, though!


    Now then, at risk of refuelling the Great Debate ...


    OOM FOOYAT: Music's written rules are indeed "a bit strange at places", but so is he. (He's a musician, you know.)


    OOM FOOYAT and others: The rules discussions seem to be boiling down to the difficulty some people are having finding enough freebies to qualify their entries. The debate would end if everyone would just use the stuff in their runtime that they ALREADY KNOW qualifies, rather than introducing other possiblities that might cause problems. I have roughly ONE BILLION freebies in my runtime that I have yet to use in the Challenge.


    As to the specific issues ...


    Models that come packaged with a 3D program like DAZ Studio, Poser and Bryce must be available to everyone for free during the Challenge month to be counted as freebies in an entry. Maybe people can still get the program for free, or get the models alone for free elsewhere if you have a link. Otherwise, they're not freebies.


    Think of a "paid-for item" as a model you bought, and a freebie as a model that's available to everyone for free. Your entry should have one or the other or both. We need to lose this "no count" discussion. It's unnecessary.


    If your entry includes a model you made yourself and you want to count it as a freebie, package it and post it online somewhere with a link where everyone can get it for free.


    Let Music and/or each month's Challenge host decide (if necessary) whether a freebie is sufficiently visible in a render to be counted and abide by that ruling. But common sense can be your guide. If the freebie is lost in a flurry of colours, textures and shadows, find a way to make it stand out with lighting or shading -- or else just put it in a more prominent position.


    (I don't think you were referring to my entry this month, but for the record, the cartoon rendering obliterated several of my freebies, as I noticed later. I haven't gone back to revise the list because there are plenty of freebies to spare. I have BILLIONS of freebies. Did I mention that?)


    Scorpio64dragon: The topic for this month's Challenge has definitely smudged the rules on postwork, but it's nice to get our slack cut once in a while.


    Generally, though, no postwork allowed except for adding a signature AND rescaling your image to fit the DAZ forum specs. This was not one of the original rules, but was added later when people gifted at Photoshop and its effects began dominating the Challenge, shifting attention away from the intended purpose of spreading the word about available freebies in creative ways. The aim was to level the playing field for users of DAZ, Poser and Bryce by barring costly software like Photoshop.


    If you see this rule being bent or ignored, please say so in the forum or in a PM to the month's host. I haven't seen this happening but I'd be interested to know if it is.

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 7,340
    edited December 1969

    wwes said:


    Great! You lead in with the story in progress and exit with a cliffhanger! Nice work!


    Dana

  • DanaTADanaTA Posts: 7,340
    edited December 1969

    Congratulations, Perl! :-) You take care of yourself and the new addition, though. That's ultimately more important than updating the gallery!


    Dana

  • Oom FooyatOom Fooyat Posts: 0
    edited December 1969


    OOM FOOYAT: Music's written rules are indeed "a bit strange at places", but so is he. (He's a musician, you know.)


    As I said, I can live with that. :)

    OOM FOOYAT and others: The rules discussions seem to be boiling down to the difficulty some people are having finding enough freebies to qualify their entries. The debate would end if everyone would just use the stuff in their runtime that they ALREADY KNOW qualifies, rather than introducing other possiblities that might cause problems. I have roughly ONE BILLION freebies in my runtime that I have yet to use in the Challenge.

    Eee...well...no. Getting enough freebies in a scene without making a clutter IS a problem or should I say challenge, but finding them? Seriously?

    As to the specific issues ...

    Models that come packaged with a 3D program like DAZ Studio, Poser and Bryce must be available to everyone for free during the Challenge month to be counted as freebies in an entry. Maybe people can still get the program for free, or get the models alone for free elsewhere if you have a link. Otherwise, they're not freebies.


    Think of a "paid-for item" as a model you bought, and a freebie as a model that's available to everyone for free. Your entry should have one or the other or both. We need to lose this "no count" discussion. It's unnecessary.


    If your entry includes a model you made yourself and you want to count it as a freebie, package it and post it online somewhere with a link where everyone can get it for free.

    That is seven lines, chohole used eight. I still don't understand why it would be so hurtful to add it to the rule page.

    Cheers! Oom

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,387
    edited July 2012

    Have you checked the rules recently, I have left one part as needing clarification, but I hope I have made it a little clearer, subject to approval from the rest of the ETOs and Music.

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  • Oom FooyatOom Fooyat Posts: 0
    edited July 2012

    To be honest I'm with Oom the lack of written rules means that for anyone new to the competetion its very confusing, I thought that their was a no post wiork rule but it seems that only applies to some post work, layering of images is ok in some instances but not in others. If I could layer images then I could do more, this is a restraint of my technology not neccassarily skill, layering images to get a particular 'toon' effect is ok though.
    Sorry but the rules seem all over the place, followed by some but not by others, it leaves a sense of unfairness which is a shame as this looks like a fun competetion.

    "restraint of my technology" is a bit familiar, I render on a 4-core machine with 2gig memory and XP. There are plenty of workarounds to stretch your restraints, most of them well documented in the old forum. I think I could pull off a five figure render in 3Delight with good looking shaders and decent lightning if I had to, but it would not be fast or easy.

    Cheers! Oom

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  • Oom FooyatOom Fooyat Posts: 0
    edited July 2012

    chohole said:
    Have you checked the rules recently, I have left one part as needing clarification, but I hope I have made it a little clearer, subject to approval from the rest of the ETOs and Music.

    I have now ;) That should take care of the most confused subject. Thank You!

    Oom

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,387
    edited December 1969

    OK a message to Music, the ETOs and all concerned others. We may be able to have temp thread to discuss the rules. We need to have a fast and furious discussion, not bad feelings, just pure simple discussion. We can keep it around for a while and if it is agreed that this needs to be done again then I can split the discussion posts out of this thread into that thread as well if Music and the ETOs agree. Then maybe we can get this thread back on topic, which is having fun and making renders.

    Music and ETOs I need you to PM me to say yay or nay. Lets keep all this out of the contest thread please.

  • Eustace ScrubbEustace Scrubb Posts: 1,370
    edited December 1969

    I believe the "layering" rule was meant as follows:
    You may not enter an image in which some freebies/elements are rendered separately from others and the composition requires two or more distinct scenes to be spliced together. Thus, if the "A/C Hero" scene was first rendered with the ladies staring at the empty wall, then rendered with LG's "Da Real Man" in the doorway watching the repairman (adding the AC and repairman, adding LG, and removing the gals), before replacing the render of Da Real Man with the rendered gals and the blank wall from their shot with the A/C unit and repairman, it would not count. The images are different. Ditto for including "freebies" that are only visible on a television screen or in another applied texture. (Applied textures can have any number of sales items depicted, but none of the items seen can count.)

    The "layering" rule does NOT apply to effects made by overlaying multiple renders of the same scene (counts as a multi-pass render, I suppose, this month only). It would normally count as "postwork", however, unless executed in Render Library or some similar plug-in.

  • deeleelaw57deeleelaw57 Posts: 52
    edited July 2012

    I don't often get involved in these rule questions. However, what I find confusing is someone will ask a rules question and several well meaning participants that are not the host, ETO or music will jump in with there answer. I have seen several different well meaning answers to the same question. And when the host, ETO or music do answer the question they are all too often challenged with a what if, how come or why not.

    The problem I have is with the opening post by the host ( the post only, not the host whom I think does a wonderful job). After the intro to the challenge the next heading should be

    "R U L E S"

    The first and only comment should be in a cookie cutter BOLD FACE MEDIUM SIZE note

    Please read the RULES FOR THE MONTHLY FREEBIE CHALLENGE located on the first page of the General Freepozitory 5th sticky down.

    The next heading should be an addendum to the rules as the host feels necessary for the particular challenge.

    I have read the, RULES FOR THE MONTHLY FREEBIE CHALLENGE located on the first page of the General Freepozitory 5th sticky down, several times. I am an old man that many have said has lost most of his marbles but these rules seem very clear and easy to follow.

    I like the second line above the smiley face at the bottom of the page.

    "Those are the rules. If you have any questions about a certain month, please pm the host or me (Music) for help."

    This could help lower the page count to these challenges. Although it won't help your post count.

    So Dollygirl please forgive my interruption to your challenge. I am going off to have more fun with more NAE, maybe an entry. and hopefully more Hershey's Chocolate Cream Pie.


    NAE

    Title: Please be Seated

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,387
    edited July 2012

    thanks dleelaw57.

    Now can everyone please read the post I made 2 posts above his as well. I am not only a moderator, I am still one of Music's ETOs, and am really trying to help Music keep this challenge alive and well. It is not happening all the time we end up with this sort of discussion within the challenge thread.

    Please can everyone remember this is an official challenge. It is accepted, and sometimes sponsored by Daz3D, and we do have rules, despite some people thoughts to the contrary.


    We also normally have fun, and this discussion is killing the fun, and upsetting Music and the ETO team.

    We all owe a lot to Music, he has kept this challenge going for several years now, and it is one of the longest running challenges on the Daz3d forums.

    So please help us to help Music and keep the discussion out of the challenge thread.

    THis is something that has never happened before, during the lifetime of the Freebie challenge, and I am not cettain why it is happening now.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • jeeperzjeeperz Posts: 1,077
    edited December 1969

    I believe the "layering" rule was meant as follows:
    You may not enter an image in which some freebies/elements are rendered separately from others and the composition requires two or more distinct scenes to be spliced together. Thus, if the "A/C Hero" scene was first rendered with the ladies staring at the empty wall, then rendered with LG's "Da Real Man" in the doorway watching the repairman (adding the AC and repairman, adding LG, and removing the gals), before replacing the render of Da Real Man with the rendered gals and the blank wall from their shot with the A/C unit and repairman, it would not count. The images are different. Ditto for including "freebies" that are only visible on a television screen or in another applied texture. (Applied textures can have any number of sales items depicted, but none of the items seen can count.)

    The "layering" rule does NOT apply to effects made by overlaying multiple renders of the same scene (counts as a multi-pass render, I suppose, this month only). It would normally count as "postwork", however, unless executed in Render Library or some similar plug-in.

    added note to Eustace, layering is usually done in postwork and that is a definite NO NO. If you can do it in the program you are rendering with, then it's ok, but if you have to use another program (especially a paid one) then it is not accepted. what you can do is make a render and use that render to put in say a picture frame, like I did in June, as long as you don't exceed the limit on paid items it is acceptable. thanks for the help in trying to clear things up around here

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