We need a better gallery than R.com

wancowwancow Posts: 2,708
edited December 1969 in The Commons

You know what? Renderosity ticks me off a lot with their gallery restrictions. If I render an image with a product from DAZ or anywhere else... I am not, and neither are you, allowed to link to that item, be it free or commercial, from your gallery image text!

What we need is a real gallery that's going to let people exchange real information without stupid restrictions like that! Seriously! (that is, without any ridiculous restrictions on nudity)...

I'd like to dump R.com, but I don't see a realistic alternative.

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  • cwichuracwichura Posts: 1,000
    edited December 1969

    Renderosity's gallery is terrible. The file size restrictions are also a joke. Personally, I use deviantArt. I know there are folks that don't like dA either, but it's worlds better than Renderosity's gallery in features and in acceptable use policy.

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 3,400
    edited December 1969

    On DA you have NO size restrictions, can upload as often as you wish, link to whatever site you need to and best of all, you get exposure to far more then just our little corner of the net. Not to mention you can add freebies to your gallery and not wait to have them approved.

  • wancowwancow Posts: 2,708
    edited December 1969

    Yah... I'm going to have to knuckle down and post all my stuff at DA as a matter of course...

  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 3,400
    edited December 1969

    wancow said:
    Yah... I'm going to have to knuckle down and post all my stuff at DA as a matter of course...


    Welcome to the club. You'll enjoy it there.

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 2,754
    edited December 1969

    Deviantart is much better than R.com for the purposes of displaying your work and having open dialogs. I stopped using R.com a long time ago.

  • cwichuracwichura Posts: 1,000
    edited December 1969

    The notification system for viewing new works from people you 'watch' on dA is also leages better than the crap E-mail notifications from Renderosity's gallery. It makes it SOOOO much easier to check everything new from folks whose work you like.

  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,199
    edited December 1969

    I refuse to post at rendo. Nothing really against DA... just don't like the site, it feels creepy and weird to me. Ever since AZ went down I really have not had an online gallery presence

  • wancowwancow Posts: 2,708
    edited December 1969

    DA's settup is a little strange to me as well... but I'll learn, I guess. And though it really hasn't occurred to me, I've seen quite a few other communities that use DA... so I think it's the only realistic alternative to posting at R.com... as soon as I get all my stuff up on DA, I'll change the links on my signature...

  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 565
    edited December 1969

    I was surprised by the puritanical attitude displayed at renderosity.
    I was also frustrated by the fact that only some of the items used were cited, as I was sometimes inspired and wanted to know what the person used. I give great credit to individuals there for answering my site mails and helping me with issues, questions, and general learning.
    One thing I at least think I notice about renderosity is that the images are sometimes, or often, lacking in "sharpness, fidelity" for want of a better way to put it. I have looked at the same image at both renderosity and Deviant and I find that the Deviant art image has more presence... am I imagining that or is it something others notice..... I don't know the reason for this.

  • ZamuelNowZamuelNow Posts: 604
    edited December 1969

    I find "puritanical" an interesting choice of words since the most popular images and products are usually nude pinup based. As far as image quality, DA simply allows larger file sizes though presumably the non fullsize popups resize by default so there's probably some accidental image stretching.

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 19,379
    edited November 2012

    I was surprised by the puritanical attitude displayed at renderosity.
    I was also frustrated by the fact that only some of the items used were cited, as I was sometimes inspired and wanted to know what the person used. I give great credit to individuals there for answering my site mails and helping me with issues, questions, and general learning.
    One thing I at least think I notice about renderosity is that the images are sometimes, or often, lacking in "sharpness, fidelity" for want of a better way to put it. I have looked at the same image at both renderosity and Deviant and I find that the Deviant art image has more presence... am I imagining that or is it something others notice..... I don't know the reason for this.


    BTW Rendo is far from puritanical. THe only nude images they will not allow on the gallery is nude images of children and obvious porn, which I find quite acceptable. Also did you know that if you click on the image in the gallery it will take you to a larger image.

    Post edited by Chohole on
  • cwichuracwichura Posts: 1,000
    edited November 2012

    I think the choice of "puritanical" wasn't related to nudity, but to Renderosity's attitude towards anything non-Renderosity being mentioned/linked to from their gallery.

    Post edited by cwichura on
  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 3,400
    edited December 1969

    chohole said:
    THe only nude images they will not allow on the gallery is nude images of children and obvious porn, which I find quite acceptable.


    They dont like half naked Aikos either.

  • ErdehelErdehel Posts: 193
    edited November 2012

    When I started my new gallery I didn't even consider Rendo as a valid choice for many reasons.

    The DA site is far more user friendly.

    Post edited by Erdehel on
  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 565
    edited December 1969

    ZamuelNow said:
    I find "puritanical" an interesting choice of words since the most popular images and products are usually nude pinup based. As far as image quality, DA simply allows larger file sizes though presumably the non fullsize popups resize by default so there's probably some accidental image stretching.

    You are hitting it on the head, I think.
    The warnings about images of unclad or semi-clad pinups, together with the many products designed for this type of image.
    Could the image quality be related to bandwith perhaps...
    For myself, I want to simply see the image as close to what the artist or hobbyist intended, that's all.

    Thanks.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 5,441
    edited November 2012

    I'm kinda done with Rendo. Used to shop there more, but prices are high, and the content is increasingly not to my taste.

    DeviantArt. I don't like the name. Really don't. I think artists face enough prejudice without that moniker. Some great art there though, no doubt. Just don't like the name of it, and won't post there.

    Post edited by Serene Night on
  • LycanthropeXLycanthropeX Posts: 2,199
    edited December 1969

    i always mentally add another T, Deviant Tart

  • JabbaJabba Posts: 1,132
    edited December 1969

    Yeah, DA is the place for me, especially as I'll often mix digital painting with 3D renders or sometimes even get stuck in with wacom tablet and blank canvas, so an all-encompassing art site is better for me.

    I do my fair share of nude pin-ups as well as mainstream work, but DA has a good filter system, so my deviantART page should still be safe to visit... http://jv-andrew.deviantart.com/gallery/

  • mrposermrposer Posts: 763
    edited December 1969

    Why did they come up with the name Deviant Art..... not a name you want to have showing up in your email on certain computers.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 5,441
    edited December 1969

    MrPoser said:
    Why did they come up with the name Deviant Art..... not a name you want to have showing up in your email on certain computers.

    IDK, but I agree, totally.

  • LizzieP_D9SLizzieP_D9S Posts: 96
    edited December 1969

    There are a lot of Poser/DS-centric groups at deviantART and there are so many features that I fear will never (in my lifetime) be available at most other galleries. It's easy to respond to comments, keep track of favorite artists, and basically do whatever you want within reason. People finding me via deviantART then going to my website is how I've made some great commission work including a book cover. It's hard to get noticed there though, it's so big. Still, you submit your art to most or all of the Poser/DS groups plus whatever other groups fit the theme of the image and you'll get it noticed by people who will favorite or comment or even buy prints which is always awesome.

    If you're a Poser user, Smith Micro has its own Poser group on dA. I love getting noticed by them! :)

    I still submit to Renderosity though. I have some regulars who often comment and I'd rather not just abandon them all.

    I don't remember now if my dA gallery link is in my sig or not... here it is just in case: http://d9studios.deviantart.com/

  • Herald of FireHerald of Fire Posts: 3,366
    edited December 1969

    I've had a DeviantArt account for a while and have never used Renderosity's gallery, though I do have an account with them largely for purchases. I've heard some people dislike it, and its their choice to do so. That being said, I've never really had any issue with DA's policies or otherwise. I've got plenty of space to upload high quality files and even options to watermark my images should I ever deem them sale worthy.

    I suppose one of the big upsides of DeviantArt is that you get to show off your creations with a wide audience. Criticism and compliments alike are all welcomed (generally speaking) and I've found the community so far quite welcoming. Join us. Become part of the family. You will be assimilated. Resistance is Futile.

  • ZamuelNowZamuelNow Posts: 604
    edited December 1969

    MrPoser said:
    Why did they come up with the name Deviant Art..... not a name you want to have showing up in your email on certain computers.

    I'd assume someone thought they were being "clever".

    I personally don't have a page yet. I'm mainly holding out until I get a better computer so I can do more of what I was wanting to do with art.

  • TheWheelManTheWheelMan Posts: 983
    edited December 1969

    If you just want an art gallery, why not use Photobucket? I generally like Rendo, but they have warned me a couple of times for what I felt was completely silly reasons, especially given the fact I almost never do anything remotely risque. DA is fine, but it's kind of "pervert art" central, which doesn't make me feel like my art fits in there.

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 2,754
    edited December 1969

    dA is an art site with personality, it's never been a Fine Art America or what not. The users are deviants, and post deviations. There is a quote/chat feature called dAmnit. If terms like these offend people they certainly need not sign up. But in the process of avoiding said deviants you will miss out on a ton of art, stock resources, tutorials and artists themselves.

    Yes there is a lot of traffic in dA but that's because it attracts a lot of non artists and casual artist, so you can get some exposure there.

    It's hard to read a digital art magazine that doesn't reference deviant art because it's such a good resource.

    To people outside of art perhaps the site name is an eye opener, but at least it's an honest depiction of what you can expect there. dA is not exclusively about fine art, it's about all kinds of stuff including webpage design.

    Some people don't consider things like pottery,tats, jewelry, webpages and dolls art. The purpose of the site has always been to be more encompassing than other places, but if you want to find a niche and stick to it you can. I have two accounts, one for my topless elves, and another for my dog photos.

    So even if you don't consider yourself a deviant you can still have a good time if you can get past the name.

  • randym77randym77 Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    The problem I've run into with Photobucket is they have monthly bandwidth limits. If you go over, your account is suspended until the next month. (I believe it counts from when you joined, not the calendar month.)

    The limits do not apply to paid accounts, but I'm assuming we're talking free galleries here.

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 2,754
    edited December 1969

    If you just want an art gallery, why not use Photobucket? I generally like Rendo, but they have warned me a couple of times for what I felt was completely silly reasons, especially given the fact I almost never do anything remotely risque. DA is fine, but it's kind of "pervert art" central, which doesn't make me feel like my art fits in there.

    DeviantArt is a social site and they have circles for all types of art. While you can find a lot of "pervert art" there are a lot of traditional artists there as well. It's really not possible for your art not to fit in, but if you simply want to post images on the net something like photobucket works.

  • larsmidnattlarsmidnatt Posts: 2,754
    edited December 1969

    And if you don't want to see "pervy" stuff make an account and set the filters accordingly. Secondly find some groups you like and just visit those. A small percentage of the most popular section of the main site will always have a bit of TnA, but with filters most of them will be hidden. I say most because it can be risque without violating the rules, and some people are offended when the see a cute womans face uncovered so ya never know what might set someone off.

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 364
    edited December 1969

    If you just want an art gallery, why not use Photobucket? I generally like Rendo, but they have warned me a couple of times for what I felt was completely silly reasons, especially given the fact I almost never do anything remotely risque. DA is fine, but it's kind of "pervert art" central, which doesn't make me feel like my art fits in there.

    You better read the terms of service at Photobucket - it's very clear that you are giving away your copyright to anything you post there which is linked to, or posted somewhere else, or made public - it even says others are allowed to take your images and make print-on-demand products and sell them.

  • FauvistFauvist Posts: 364
    edited December 1969

    The word deviant gives artists the permission to post art that is not mainstream in taste.

    I love Rosity's galleries. I love the images and I love browsing through them. I don't know what it's like from the perspective of someone who posts work there because I don't.

    Seductionostomy or whatever it's called will post nude+ images.

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