General Gen 5 Iconic Character Render Thread

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited September 2012

    Thanks to Zaarin's Kid Render Thread, I've been put in the mood to dabble with youths (that came out dangerously wrong :grrr:)! So, probably much to Marcus's delight, here's MY version of Luke 5, derived from my D5, much like how MallenLane derived Laura & Luke 3 from the original David. (see, Marcus, even we do it too! ;))

    LUKE 5
    ---------------
    Scale: 85.0%
    Eyelash Length: -0.25
    Lips Thin: 0.50
    Nose Width: -0.25
    Nose Pinch: 0.25
    Jaw Size: -0.10
    Face Round: -0.25
    Face Young: 1.00
    Jaw Angle: 1.00
    ManlyMenHead02: 25.0%
    Michael 5 Head: -0.25
    Genital Bulge 2: 100.0%
    Hip Volume: -0.25
    Shins Volume: -0.50
    Thighs Volume: -0.50
    BenjaminBody 100.0%
    David 3: 0.50
    Michael 5: 0.25
    Basic child: 0.25
    Upper Arms Volume: -0.25
    Chest Width: -0.50
    Waist Width: -0.20
    Love Handles: -0.25
    Navel: 1.00
    Nipples: 0.50

    PRODUCTS USED: Michael 5 Pro Suite (Michael 5, Manly Men, Genesis Evolutionary Morphs, Easy Going Poses for M5, Underwear for M5), David 3 for Genesis, Taylor Hair, Askan for M4/H4 (Renderocity), Gabi for V5! (Lights).

    NOTE: Please full view for maximum image quality.

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited September 2012

    Well done RC, Spyro Kid got a friend LOL. He definitely has the essence of Luke from gen 3... But at the same time is more realistic. Nice work :cheese: Also, I have a tip that you might like to know in regards to lighting/shadows... Go into the Lighting and cameras section, select the light/s, in shadows set it to raytrace and set the blur to around 6%... What it does is makes the shadow naturally blur and fade as it gets further away from the object/person causing it like it does in the real world. :) Very effective. I do it all the time with distant lights.

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  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,104
    edited December 1969

    Spyro, I hope this is a new username and not a case of identity theft! ;-)

    Loving all these new characters! :cheese: RCDeschene, you've done a great job on your revised versions... And I agree, the new lighting scheme works well.

    Posting my old A5 and H5 designs from the forumarchive. Is there a reason why I'm reposting these at this particular time? Maayybee...... ;-)

    Links to formula:
    A5.0: http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3377796#3377796
    A5.1: http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3383070#3383070
    H5: http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3400690#3400690

    Attachments: my original A5 design, then Aiko 5.1 with Hiro 5 and Hiro 5 Bishonen.

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited September 2012

    Awesome work Scott!! They look great! Got a good Anime/Manga style happening. :cheese: Great stuff!

    LOL and no identity theft here. I'd be hunting them down if they had my avatar Spyro.

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  • kitakoredazkitakoredaz Posts: 1,973
    edited December 1969

    after long tyme straggling with A4 wears,,
    I finished shoes now,, yey!

    my A5 some real ver, and stephany beta 2 at 17 (not buy real stephany 5 yet,,, )
    (not recipi sorry ><)

    Scott,, so lovely A5 ,, I want to buy it,,

    (I think,, my figures is more cute if I not render her,,
    in 3D view ,, they are so cute,, but I render them,,,
    I feel everytime,,something different,,but OK I am easy Render man)

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  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,104
    edited September 2012

    Formula and more renders to follow, but here's a sneak peek at my latest Aiko (let's call her Aiko 5.2).

    Update: Okay, this is weird... At some point in the process, a bunch of morphs that are supposed to be part of her formula got zeroed out. They are still showing up under "Currently Used," but at a strength of 0.00. So the character shown here is NOT my Aiko 5.2. But she's cute anyway, I guess. The formula for this non-Aiko 5.2 character is:

    Basic formula
    Taiga 0.2
    Aiko 3 0.4
    Basic Child* 0.04
    Head Propigating Scale 0.8
    Naoki Head 50%

    DieTrying morphs:
    BreastDiameter -0.1
    Eye shape 2 0.4
    Eyes round -0.5
    Hooded Eye 1.0
    Chin Short 0.1
    Face oval 0.1
    Lower Head Small 0.1
    Glute crease 0.3
    Glute smaller 0.3

    Evolutions morphs:
    Eye Iris Size 0.12
    Eyelashes Hide Layer* 0.2
    Pupil Dialate 0.12
    Breasts Heavy* 0.08
    Navel 1.0
    Navel Depth 0.2
    Navel Vertical 1.0

    Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3 morphs:
    EyesLarge2 0.5
    EyesShape6 0.2
    EyesShape9 1.0
    FaceDown 0.2
    HighCheekbones 0.3
    LowerEyelidsFlat 0.2
    LowerFaceIn 0.1
    LowerLidShape 0.4
    NoseRidgeProportion 0.4
    UpperCheeksOut 0.1
    UpperLipAreaIn 0.2

    *These morphs were automatically applied when the Taiga shape was dialed up.

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited December 1969

    Well done Kitakoredaz they are fantasitc! It's good to see your return to this thread :)

    She's stunning Scott, cant wait for your updates!!

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited December 1969

    I see! Yeah, I can't seem to figure out Lighting for crap sometimes... T_T

    Thanks for the tip! :)

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited September 2012

    Okay, how does this look? I'm really happy with the face. No matter what I tried to do, she always looks much older in the scene view than the actual final render...

    LAURA 5
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    Scale: 80.0%
    Stephanie 4: 0.50
    Victoria 5: 0.50
    Eyelashes Length: -0.25
    Lips Thin: 0.25
    Nose Width: -0.20
    Nose Pinch: 0.25
    Face Round: -0.25
    Face Young: 1.00
    Jaw Angle: 1.00
    Stephanie 4 Head: -0.25
    Stephanie 5 Head 0.25
    Hip Volume: -0.50
    Shins Volume: -0.50
    Thighs Volume: -0.50
    BenjaminBody 50.0%
    Basic child: 0.25
    Thin: 0.20
    Upper Arms Volume: -0.25
    Chest Width: -0.25
    Waist Width: -0.20
    Love Handles: -0.25
    Navel: 1.00
    Nipples: 0.50

    PRODUCTS USED: Victoria 5 3D Model Pro Suite (Victoria 5, Genesis Bikini, Hampton Hair), Stephanie 5, Stephanie 4 for Genesis, Basic Child (Skin)

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  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,104
    edited September 2012

    I've never cared for the Basic Child skin, but otherwise I really like your Laura. Nice work.

    What do you use for backgrounds? Do you make them yourself, or are they for sale somewhere?

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  • JimJim Posts: 458
    edited December 1969

    "At some point in the process, a bunch of morphs that are supposed to be part of her formula got zeroed out. They are still showing up under “Currently Used,” but at a strength of 0.00. So the character shown here is NOT my Aiko 5.2. But she’s cute anyway..."

    What a cute character. I want to take her home and put her up on my shelf... or something :D She is certainly one of those happy mistakes.

  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,104
    edited September 2012

    ...Okay, here's my real new Aiko. Inspired by Hitomi and by the classic Aiko3 characters by Thorne and Sarsa...tried to steer a middle ground between these two styles. Also inspired by iconic manga/anime-style characters by artists like Hayao Miyazaki, Rumiko Takahashi, Izumi Matsumoto, and Clamp.

    Aiko 5.2 by Scott-Livingston

    DieTrying morphs
    BreastDiameter -0.10
    Eye shape 2 0.40
    Eyes round -0.50
    Hooded Eye 1.00
    Chin Short 0.10
    Face oval 0.10
    Lower Head Small 0.10
    Glute crease 0.30
    Glute smaller 0.30

    Female full-body shapes
    Taiga 0.20
    Victoria 5 0.35
    V5 Supermodel 0.35
    Aiko 3 0.40


    Evolutions Head Morphs
    Eye Iris Size 0.20
    Eyelashes Hide Layer 0.20
    Eyes Almond Inner 0.50
    Eyes Size 0.60
    Pupil Dialate 0.15
    Lips Thin 0.20
    Nose Size -0.15
    Nose Tip Height 0.20

    Head shapes
    Basic Female Head 0.10
    NaokiHead 40%
    Victoria 5 Head -0.20

    Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3
    BabyFat 0.30
    EyesLarge2 0.50
    EyesShape6 0.20
    EyesShape9 1.00
    FaceDown 0.20
    HighCheekbones 0.30
    LowerEyelidsFlat 0.20
    LowerFaceIn 0.10
    LowerLidShape 0.40
    NoseRidge Proportion 0.40
    UpperCheeksOut 0.10
    UpperLipAreaIn 0.20


    Evolutions body morphs and standard Genesis morphs
    Head Propagatiing Scale 0.80%
    Legs Length 25%
    Basic Child 0.04
    Body Volume 0.20
    Breasts Cleavage 0.15
    Breasts Heavy 0.08
    Breasts Small 0.30
    V5 Breast Shape 6 0.05
    V5 Breasts Downward Slope 0.05
    Pectorals Volume 0.25
    Waist Width -0.10
    Areolae Depth 0.20
    Areolae Perk 0.15
    Collar Bone Detail 0.40
    Love Handles -0.10
    Navel 1.00
    Navel Depth 0.20
    Navel Vertical 1.00

    Products Used
    Victoria 5
    Gen 3 Iconic Shapes (A3 shape)
    Genesis Starter Bundle (Evolutions morphs)
    Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3
    DieTrying's 182 V4 Morphs for Genesis (freebie at ShareCG, by SickleYield and DieTrying)
    Taiga
    Naoki for V4 and V5
    Flower Dress and Anime Hair for Genesis (by Mec4D, at her store)
    Andromedas Legend for Genesis
    Taylor Hair
    Iyeyasu's Tomb
    Lantios Lights 2
    Light Dome Pro (sky backdrops)

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited September 2012

    I've never cared for the Basic Child skin, but otherwise I really like your Laura. Nice work.

    What do you use for backgrounds? Do you make them yourself, or are they for sale somewhere?


    Trust me, I tried using some of the V4/A4 skins I have and she looked way too mature for a young teen, almost as if an actress in her early 20's was trying to portray her. As I said before, I think she looks too old in my final render, hence why I felt obligated to screen the actual scene itself. I'm rather tempted to do so with my Luke as well. (Only goes to show how badly we need D5 and actual Teen morphs!)

    EDIT: I went ahead and did so anyway. I revised him a bit as well.

    As for my backgrounds, well, as you can see from my D5 revision and both L&L5; renders, I use the same backdrop just shopped a different color. Either way, I find all of my images on Google. :)

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited September 2012

    Fantastic work Scott with Aiko5.2!! I do imagine Aiko with that appearance! Well done!! I'm particularly fond of your blue cloud render :cheese:

    RC, I'm lovin your lighting improvements!! I think some of your problems with the youthful face may be influenced by the hairstyle. I had so many problems with hairstyles I really liked, cos they made my characters appear older. But I love her body shape, true to the childhood figure, well done!

    EDIT: Referring to your Laura 5

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  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited December 1969

    Spyro said:
    Fantastic work Scott with Aiko5.2!! I do imagine Aiko with that appearance! Well done!! I'm particularly fond of your blue cloud render :cheese:

    RC, I'm lovin your lighting improvements!! I think some of your problems with the youthful face may be influenced by the hairstyle. I had so many problems with hairstyles I really liked, cos they made my characters appear older. But I love her body shape, true to the childhood figure, well done!

    EDIT: Referring to your Laura 5


    But I honestly thought that hair like Hampton and Taylor were perfect for teenagers. I just didn't want the usual Duke and Sally Mae hairs.

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited December 1969

    Yeah I know what you mean! We need thornes product Daz!!!! My young male went through about five hairstyles in his time, They were very good ones but had the mature side effect unfortunately. I like the hairstyle I used for my girl, I knew many girls at school with the same style but it doesn't help my character :(

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited September 2012

    Also, personally I wouldn't use Reby Sky. Yes, she's young, but her 3D character's face looks way too mature. As you saw in my Annabelle Nymph picture, S5 actually teens up quite well, especially when you use her default skin.

    All the more reason, as I can't stress enough, for DAZ to give in and give us a goddamn David 5! T_T

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited December 1969

    And Luke and Laura 5!! Seriously, going by the almost six rather current and active threads, I'd say there is more a market for D5 L&L5; than Daz gives credit for!

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited December 1969

    And why are they holding off on the release of Thornes product?!? It's finished!! WHY DAZ?

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited September 2012

    They're probably just waiting for next month, after these PA sales.

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  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited December 1969

    If they don't want it to go on special they could still release it without the discount. Grrr lol. I sick of waiting lol Owell lol

  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,104
    edited December 1969

    HIRO 5.1 by Scott-Livingston

    The new and improved version of my Hiro 5 character, enhanced with the Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3, the converted DieTrying morphs, and a few other things. Hope you enjoy! :)

    Formula:

    - DieTrying morphs -
    Eyebrows arc -0.20
    Eyebrows big 0.60
    Eyebrows inner up -0.10
    Eye shape 2 0.50
    Eyes baggy -0.50
    Eyes lower down 1.00
    Eyes round -0.50
    Hooded eye 1.00
    Chin back 0.50
    Chin short 0.20
    Chin wide -0.50
    Face flat 0.20

    - Genesis Faces by Sabby (Renderosity) -
    Sabby-GenesisFace07 0.80

    - Genesis Evolutions Head Morphs -
    Ear Size -0.14
    Ears Angle -0.32
    Eyes Height 0.20
    Eyes Width -0.10
    Eyelashes Length -0.20
    Eyelashes Top Point 1.00
    Eyelids Bottom In Height 0.50
    Eyelids Fold Down 0.20
    Eyelids Smooth 0.60
    Eyelids Top Out Height 0.25
    Eyes Almond Inner 1.00
    Eyes Almond Outer 0.50
    Eyes Angle 0.50
    Eyes Depth -0.50
    Eyes Height Inner 0.40
    Eyes Size 0.60
    Lacrimals Size -0.50
    Lips Thin 0.80
    Nose Width -0.40
    Nose Size -0.30
    Nose Tip Height 0.40
    Nose Tip Width -0.30


    - Female head shapes -
    Basic Female Head 0.80
    NaokiHead 25%

    - Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3 -
    EyesShape6 0.50
    EyesShape7 0.50
    EyesShape9 1.00
    FaceDown -0.10
    FaceSlant 0.60
    FaceSmooth1 0.70
    FaceSmooth2 1.00
    HighCheekbones 1.00
    LowerEyelidsFlat 0.20
    LowerLidShape 0.50
    SmileMuscles 0.50
    StrongCheekbones 0.10
    ThinCheeks 0.10
    UpperCheeksOut 0.10

    - Male head morphs -
    David 3 Head -0.20
    David 3 Head Youth 0.20
    JamesHead -50%
    ManlyMenHead01 10%
    ManlyMenHead05 15%
    Michael 5 Head -0.15


    - Evolutions and misc. body morphs -
    Neck Length -0.30
    Neck Size -0.30
    Traps Volume 0.20
    Head Propigating Scale 6%
    Genital Bulge 1 0.50
    Genital Bulge 2 50%

    - Male full-body morphs -
    David 3 0.20
    Michael 5 0.30
    Hiro 3 0.50

    - Evolutions and misc. full-body morphs -
    Lanky Gn AMR 100%
    Body Tone 0.20
    Bodybuilder 0.10
    Fitness 0.20
    Fitness Details 0.20
    Thin 0.60
    Navel 1.00

    Products Used (on H5.1, including his hair and clothing...see my Aiko 5.2 post for others used in these images)
    Ashley for M5 (texture)
    WildMane hair
    Flower Dress and Anime Hair (Mec4D)
    Pure Hair Casual
    Genesis Supersuit
    Michael 5 Pro Bundle (M5 base, Manly Men M5, and James for M5)
    Genesis Faces by Sabby (Renderosity)
    David 3 for Genesis
    DieTrying's 182 V4 Morphs for Genesis (ShareCG - SickleYield and DieTrying)
    Genesis Evolutions Head and Body Morphs
    Genesis Head Morph Resource Kit 3
    Naoki for V4 and V5

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  • kitakoredazkitakoredaz Posts: 1,973
    edited December 1969

    I am keeping work for shaping and make pose morphs for my ARISA or AIKO5.1 beta RC4

    a little bit cut cheak,, and a little bit edge sharp,, and most difficult correct wink,,not perfect yet,,
    you may suprised how change,, (no? you can not find where changed?)
    I will try new lighting set which I get this month,,

    and school wear set reformed again,, (4.5 removed auto-fit group bug,, thanks,,)
    (hey eye can not wink , genesis morph,,) ok stuck it??

    I get free good light sets of preta3D,, it is good for easy renderman, like me,,
    (I never take more than 15miniutes for render,, I can not wait,,,)

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  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,104
    edited December 1969

    Actually, like I said much earlier, there are actually products featuring H5 in the store. I already explained that I found this out when I saw a product featuring what I took as a H4 with a less feminine looking Hitomi skin. Turns out the vendor told me the anime male and skin in question is actually a DAZ Original character that has yet to be released. After a glorious freak-out of celebration I calmed myself and inquired her if she knew anything regarding Aiko? She said she didn't and that she couldn't say anymore on the subject. As you can see by the way I'm wording this story, I too now cannot say much detail on the matter. ;)

    If my guess is correct, it's a product by one of the currently-featured PA's?

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited December 1969

    GREAT WORK Scott on your Hiro 5, He looks awesome and even though he is a distinct manga/anime style, he's certainly holds the element of ethnicity... Well done!! :cheese:

    Great job kitakordaz! I thing you got the expression just right btw. I love her look and her eyes are brilliantly shaped, well done :) In terms of waiting for longer render times, If you have trouble waiting, it's best to render while you sleep :)

  • SpyroRueSpyroRue Posts: 4,934
    edited December 1969

    LOL Scott - Looks like your formulas are expanding to 'spyro-size' HAHA! Whats the fun if you not use everything you got hey? LOL Only problem is it takes forever to type haha

  • Scott LivingstonScott Livingston Posts: 4,104
    edited December 1969

    Heads-up: unless the pictures are mislabeled, the new product Bijoux Macabre shows images of Freak 5 and Girl 5!
    http://www.daz3d.com/shop/bijoux-macabre-for-genesis

  • Male-M3diaMale-M3dia Posts: 1,976
    edited December 1969

    Heads-up: unless the pictures are mislabeled, the new product Bijoux Macabre shows images of Freak 5 and Girl 5!
    http://www.daz3d.com/shop/bijoux-macabre-for-genesis

    I'd go with mislabeled... you should already have those shapes if you bought the iconic packs.

  • RCDescheneRCDeschene Posts: 2,087
    edited December 1969

    Heads-up: unless the pictures are mislabeled, the new product Bijoux Macabre shows images of Freak 5 and Girl 5!
    http://www.daz3d.com/shop/bijoux-macabre-for-genesis

    As I said in the actual topic addressing this:

    The product isn't a DAZ Original, so it’s probably just the PA considering the Genesis Iconic shapes as Gen 5. This is an understandable misconception though, because figures like The Girl are actually just direct carryovers from their Gen 3 versions.

    However, there IS dug up dirt on H5... ;)

    http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/8512/

  • jthicksjthicks Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    My initial attempt at a Luke/David character. I have used the iconic shape for Hiro 4. I am not sure what I would gain by getting Hiro5, at least what would be worth the $$.

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